i dont think human ninja can beat hiruzen or minato and naruto

minato naruto and hiruzen cant be beat by humans


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Darksharinnegan

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there chakra and base speed make physical attacks useless

large attacks like tbb, elementals, and energy attacks are easily reflected, repeled or countered with space/time or large summons

there chakras and stamina make long lasting battles a disadvantage

and there summons allow them extra combat weapons/helpers

not to mention there shadow clones are much more dangerous than anyone elses because of there intellect and stregnth
 

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Alive Hashi trying could beat Hiruzen
Alive Madara beats Minato due to Perfect Susano'o
EMS Sasuke could tie Naruto
 

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what do u mean human ninja? aren't they all human....
 

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Nothing about Hiruzen impresses me honestly.

A lot of people could beat minato. (not saying he is weak)

As for naruto? Yeah, madara,hashirama,nagato healthy could.
 

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im trying to think of an affensive technique that could damage one of them?
 

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madara, obito and EMS sasuke (when we see his EMS power) solos
 

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Obito>Hiruzen
Obito>Naruto
EMS Madara>Minato.
 

Darksharinnegan

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i want you all to help me disprove the hype.

give me a tech or group of techs that minato cant ftg away from

hiruzen cant summon a gigantic wall to stop


naruto cant blow away with a tailed beat ball
 

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Uzumaki clan leader seals them, and the area surrounding them:
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GG, you gotta be beast to make the Senju clan have an alliance clan with you
 

Darksharinnegan

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and lets not forget enma, the frogs, kyuubi and the powers these cretures posses
 

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madara shits on all of them
 

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there chakra and base speed make physical attacks useless

large attacks like tbb, elementals, and energy attacks are easily reflected, repeled or countered with space/time or large summons

there chakras and stamina make long lasting battles a disadvantage

and there summons allow them extra combat weapons/helpers

not to mention there shadow clones are much more dangerous than anyone elses because of there intellect and stregnth

As a hiruzen fanboy I don't think he has any jutsu or moves that could counter a TBB. Needless to say I do agree with all the selections you made due to the fact that hashirama and tobirama were no match for hiruzen.
 

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Kabuto solo's all with edo tensei your argument is invalid.
 
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