I don't get it

[ShiroT]

Sasuke was less suited to fight Kaguya than Naruto. Just like how Sasuke was more suited to fight Madara, and did better.

kaguya wrecked sasuke
naruto stood his own against madara

theres a difference

 

[shelke]

Everyone knows I'm not a Naruto fan but he out perform Sasuke by a lot in the battle against Kaguya.. Everything Sasuke did failed, from his tactics to his strategy to his attacks, he just looked awful..

Naruto was much more effective. He stalled Kaguya long enough for Sakura and Obito to save Sasuke, his tactics work or at least some and his attack were effecting her..

I don't know if Sasuke could use any of his Rinnengan abilities save Amenojikara but that was one of the main reason he didn't perform well.. ST and BT would of came in very handy..

Not really. The entire time Obito was disintegrating and his little petty speech ... Sasuke was battling Kaguya. We were simply not shown the entire fight other than the culminating point.

He never used any strategy against Kaguya. Both Naruto and Sasuke failed, period. I am not sure what people keep mentioning about Naruto doing any better.

I agree with the last.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

So does that mean Naruto is more suited to women' While Sasuke is more suited to men? This could explain there endings better.

You would get that out of his statement, it just means that Naruto is a woman beater, I feel so sorry for Hinata... He probably beats her up after a stressful day at work Lol

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Tell me a rinnegan technique that would have affected kaguya to the point it would be easy to deal with her.

Godly Vacuum Palm? Preta Path negs
Amenominaka? Human Path rips her soul out
Giant TSB of doom? Almighty Push the ***** into the attack and neg her
Ash bone? Asura Path missile to counter

 

[3MESSIAH]

it's still counterproductive to you trying to argue Sasuke wasn't ever used to his dojutsu or that he wasn't spamming anything when you're basically admitting to it with this post.
the very first sentence in the post i replied to in this regard was an excuse. Kakashi's approach towards fights weren't that far removed from Sasuke's and he managed to get multiple shots off on her using the same kind of mech.

It's pointless trying to argue that they performed the same when Naruto got Kaguya multiple times and all Sasuke did was get put in a timeout by her. If they performed the same, Naruto would have either been treated the same way Sasuke did or Sasuke would've been styling on Kaguya a similar amaount of times that Naruto has. Seeing as neither happened, they did not, in fact, perform the same way...especially because everybody saw that every last person on the time hit Kaguya except for Sasuke.

the fact that sasuke didnt hit kaguya as much as others did doesnt justify the argument of sasuke being beneath naruto or the others.....so sakura hit kaguya in the head..does that put her above sasuke because she(as you state it) PERFORMED better??

no.

sasuke didnt put as much effort into fighting her as naruto did and you know that`s true...it`s true he tried and failed but not as often and not with the same dedication as naruto

and that still doesnt put sasuke beneath naruto...as everything naruto did had no effect on kaguya and they beat her together....so in that way i see their performance as equal and i dont believe naruto to be more powerful than sasuke just because of the splotlight being constantly on him

 

[DHOH]

Not really. The entire time Obito was disintegrating and his little petty speech ... Sasuke was battling Kaguya. We were simply not shown the entire fight other than the culminating point.

He never used any strategy against Kaguya. Both Naruto and Sasuke failed, period. I am not sure what people keep mentioning about Naruto doing any better.

I agree with the last.

Naruto definitely use a few strategy that work, but I guess your point is that he didn't do any significant damage to make a difference. I agree with that but Naruto still look like the better fighter against Kaguya. He showed better reflexes,speed and strategy.. Like I said before I'm sure that had a lot to do with Sasuke not using his rinnengan abilities.

 

[shelke]

Naruto definitely use a few strategy that work, but I guess your point is that he didn't do any significant damage to make a difference. I agree with that but Naruto still look like the better fighter against Kaguya. He showed better reflexes,speed and strategy.. Like I said before I'm sure that had a lot to do with Sasuke not using his rinnengan abilities.

There are two important factors you need to know: 1) Kaguya didn't want to kill Naruto or Sasuke initially. She wanted their chakra. She was severely holding back. 2) His Sexy no Jutsu and Boiling Chakra strategy failed. Kaguya was not harmed in both cases.

All of his strategies failed. Not a single one of them worked. The only time he even managed to damage Kaguya was because she had lost a colossal amount of chakra because of shifting dimensions. She was slower and weaker than. She healed from that quite easily as well.

If that is the case then Sasuke rescued him - and himself as well - from the ice block. Had he not done that, both of them would have been sucked dry. Reflexes is a very moot point, because when Kaguya used her Dimension shift twice before, he had no ****ing clue what was going on. It was only after the second time that he got the hang of it. Had she grabbed Naruto instead of Sasuke then the outcome would have been the same.

I do see where you are coming from in regards to the Rinnegan abilities. But Naruto's performance against her is vastly exaggerated.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

You would get that out of his statement, it just means that Naruto is a woman beater, I feel so sorry for Hinata... He probably beats her up after a stressful day at work Lol

Lol True. Naruto knows how to handle his women better.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Lol True. Naruto knows how to handle his women better.

You don't handle women by beating them... That's how you end up in jail and with a boyfriend getting ****ed up the booty hole

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

You don't handle women by beating them... That's how you end up in jail and with a boyfriend getting ****ed up the booty hole

Atleast its a nice home and shelter for those that don't have that. Maybe that is why some poor people do crimes.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Atleast its a nice home and shelter for those that don't have that. Maybe that is why some poor people do crimes.

is getting raped really worth it though Lol

 

[Transcendence]

Because, Naruto is marginally more powerful pre-Ashura's Avatar/Bijuu PS. Plus, his Bijuu power and clone fighting style was well suited to fighting Kaguya.

 

[WalksInShadows]

I was using those example to show Sasuke needed time to learn his new dojutsu, EMS never gave him anything new that's why it was easy for him to use but Rinnegan is something completely different just like MS is to Sharingan. He couldn't use his Rinnegan's power which is why Naruto did better in the fight against Kaguya.

all the same, Sasuke's Rinnegan being a new acquisition was and still is no excuse. If it wasn't an issue for anyone when they fought Madara, then there shouldn't be any reason whatsoever to try attributing his lack of contribution to the fight against Kaguya. There was a cardinal rule of fighting that Zabuza mentioned in the Land of Waves Arc, and it states that a person would be foolish to repeatedly use their absolute best move against the same person; especially in 1 fight. The bottom line is that Sasuke's lack of substance boils down to his failure in realizing this. If he knew any better, he would've realized how pointless it was trying to engage Kaguya in such close range with any kind of Susano'o the first time she busted it. Kakashi barely had his for 5mins and judging from his performance, he apparently learned plenty from Sasuke screwing up and did what he did w/o a Rinnegan. It really just boils down to Kakashi proving he could do better than Sasuke at virtually anything if he were to essentially have the same tools to work with because his tactics were far better.

the fact that sasuke didnt hit kaguya as much as others did doesnt justify the argument of sasuke being beneath naruto or the others.....so sakura hit kaguya in the head..does that put her above sasuke because she(as you state it) PERFORMED better??no.

if you spent nearly as much effort reading my post correctly as you did trying to turn this into a tier argument and using caps, you'd realize my case was about who performed better than in that fight who and not who is above who on some power tier.

sasuke didnt put as much effort into fighting her as naruto did and you know that`s true...it`s true he tried and failed but not as often and not with the same dedication as naruto

oh pls. Given the amount of times Sasuke used any version of his Susano'o and Rinnegan in that fight alone, who are you trying to b.s. with this garbage about how Sasuke was intentionally holding back?

And that still doesnt put sasuke beneath naruto...as everything naruto did had no effect on kaguya and they beat her together....so in that way i see their performance as equal and i dont believe naruto to be more powerful than sasuke just because of the splotlight being constantly on him

you can believe w/e you want with everything you got, it won't change what actually happened. Naruto tore her arm off while Sasuke had to get bailed out by somebody practically most of the time in that fight. That's not an equal performance by any stretch of the imagination, especially because Naruto showed how well he could at least hold his own against her while Sasuke kept getting clowned. Those are facts and not beliefs.

 

[3MESSIAH]

all the same, Sasuke's Rinnegan being a new acquisition was and still is no excuse. If it wasn't an issue for anyone when they fought Madara, then there shouldn't be any reason whatsoever to try attributing his lack of contribution to the fight against Kaguya. There was a cardinal rule of fighting that Zabuza mentioned in the Land of Waves Arc, and it states that a person would be foolish to repeatedly use their absolute best move against the same person; especially in 1 fight. The bottom line is that Sasuke's lack of substance boils down to his failure in realizing this. If he knew any better, he would've realized how pointless it was trying to engage Kaguya in such close range with any kind of Susano'o the first time she busted it. Kakashi barely had his for 5mins and judging from his performance, he apparently learned plenty from Sasuke screwing up and did what he did w/o a Rinnegan. It really just boils down to Kakashi proving he could do better than Sasuke at virtually anything if he were to essentially have the same tools to work with because his tactics were far better. if you spent nearly as much effort reading my post correctly as you did trying to turn this into a tier argument and using caps, you'd realize my case was about who performed better than in that fight who and not who is above who on some power tier.

oh pls. Given the amount of times Sasuke used any version of his Susano'o and Rinnegan in that fight alone, who are you trying to b.s. with this garbage about how Sasuke was intentionally holding back?

you can believe w/e you want with everything you got, it won't change what actually happened. Naruto tore her arm off while Sasuke had to get bailed out by somebody practically most of the time in that fight. That's not an equal performance by any stretch of the imagination, especially because Naruto showed how well he could at least hold his own against her while Sasuke kept getting clowned. Those are facts and not beliefs.

i read it and understood,wth are you talking about?

the thread connects the performance to the question whether they are truly equal or if naruto is above sasuke...which i touched with my argument...and as i`ve said before naruto fighting more and using more flashy techniques does not mean he performed better because in the end he didnt accomplish anything on his own,they beat her together and that is what counts as true performance in the end the way i see it

 

[WalksInShadows]

i read it and understood,wth are you talking about?

obviously you didn't, otherwise you wouldn't have construed my saying Sasuke was outperformed by whoever as me saying they were better than him. If you still think you understood that, then your comprehension needs work.

the thread connects the performance to the question whether they are truly equal or if naruto is above sasuke...which i touched with my argument...and as i`ve said before naruto fighting more and using more flashy techniques does not mean he performed better because in the end he didnt accomplish anything on his own,they beat her together and that is what counts as true performance in the end the way i see it

well, i'm more concerned about what the story shows than "the way you see it". If the manga doesn't show it, then what you believe matters very little to me. And it's for your own good to not press your beliefs on me try to pass it off as facts, because they seem to be 2 entirely different things.

 

[Wind Squid]

Because Sasuke's chakra reserves are nothing special

 

[3MESSIAH]

obviously you didn't, otherwise you wouldn't have construed my saying Sasuke was outperformed by whoever as me saying they were better than him. If you still think you understood that, then your comprehension needs work.

well, i'm more concerned about what the story shows than "the way you see it". If the manga doesn't show it, then what you believe matters very little to me. And it's for your own good to not press your beliefs on me try to pass it off as facts, because they seem to be 2 entirely different things.

yes i did,dont try to be a smartass here..i may have passed it out as you indicating that naruto>sasuke but i meant the majority of people in this thread and OP himself...

 

[WalksInShadows]

yes i did,dont try to be a smartass here..i may have passed it out as you indicating that naruto>sasuke but i meant the majority of people in this thread and OP himself...

i wouldn't need to be a smartass if you hadn't wasted either of our time or effort trying to appl w/e anybody else was saying to what i said. If you're going to reply to something i said, then worry about what i actually said and don't put words into my mouth.

 

[3MESSIAH]

i wouldn't need to be a smartass if you hadn't wasted either of our time or effort trying to appl w/e anybody else was saying to what i said. If you're going to reply to something i said, then worry about what i actually said and don't put words into my mouth.

i just combined your argument of sasuke being outperformed by naruto with a popular belief of sasuke being beneath naruto(because people actually associate these two points together) so i didnt put anything in your mouth nor did i explicitly state YOU said naruto>sasuke...i was just backing up my argument of sasuke hypothethically being able to perform better if he absolutely had to with a statement that sasuke and naruto stand on equal grounds....

 

[Wparker6804]

So does that mean Naruto is more suited to women' While Sasuke is more suited to men? This could explain there endings better.

And why it took x100 gravity to finally make Sasuke's balls drop :-S