I believe that Tobi isn't madara

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I'm probably dead wrong but i make this bold claim in the manga episode when kabuto first reveals himself to madara after summoning all the akatsuki when madara tries to attack him he makes 1 last summoning which i believe was really uchiha madara please tell me your opinions btw i have no identity for tobi :confused:
 

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Well I'm in the middle. I think he is madara or someone that was close. We already know he is part zetsu from the anime and manga. So now we wait until kishi decides to show us.

Also try the search function it's quite helpful for subjects like this that is talked about often.
 

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anything that touches Zetsu, Zetsu then shape shifts into them and can be controlled remotely this is why in the episode you refer to he is part zetsu it was merely a clone being controled, my idea is not solid because in the manga when kisame meets madara he has the hair of uchiha madara i assumed that shisui was madara based on his current hair but back then with kisame he had the full set
 

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anything that touches Zetsu, Zetsu then shape shifts into them and can be controlled remotely this is why in the episode you refer to he is part zetsu it was merely a clone being controled, my idea is not solid because in the manga when kisame meets madara he has the hair of uchiha madara i assumed that shisui was madara based on his current hair but back then with kisame he had the full set
There is parts in the manga proving other wise. Also zetsu doesn't have madara's space time techniques. :|
 

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hmph how do you know of that madara zetsu vessel thing is it in the manga? ~.~ and Zetsu has 30% of the controller/touchers chakra he can use it's moves just like how he assumed Kisame's form
 
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It was revealed that his body is partially made of Zetsu but he is not Madara but Izuna because: Kabuto said "You call yourself Uchiha Madara these days" and he know a lot about Sage,Rinnegan,Kyubi simply overal history of Naruto world so he must be someone close to Madara. .. . .. . .. . Izuna.
Cant be Shisui ... Shisui was about 10-13 years old when Kubi attacked Konoha, so you want to tell me that little boy almost defeated Yondaime and was able to control Kyubi ?! LOL
 

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It was revealed that his body is partially made of Zetsu but he is not Madara but Izuna because: Kabuto said "You call yourself Uchiha Madara these days" and he know a lot about Sage,Rinnegan,Kyubi simply overal history of Naruto world so he must be someone close to Madara. .. . .. . .. . Izuna.
Cant be Shisui ... Shisui was about 10-13 years old when Kubi attacked Konoha, so you want to tell me that little boy almost defeated Yondaime and was able to control Kyubi ?! LOL
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No he isn't Izuna.
Firstly, Izuna died before Madara vs Hashirima. And everyone in Konoha knows Madara fought the 1st.
Secondly, Minato said "only one I recall who can use space-time ninjutsu on that level is uchiha madara"
Thirdly, tsuchikage has obviously heard madara's voice when he fought him in the past and he didn't say any objections when he heard "Madara"'s voice in the kage meeting.
Fourthly, Itachi believed him to be Madara so I guess him and Minato are pretty dumb?
Fifthly, no one else but Madara in the history of uchiha haven't been said to be able to control the kyuubi, like Tobi did, before he kidnapped Naruto. so again tobi = madara
Sixthly, Danzo called Tobi Madara
Lastly, WHY WOULD IZUNA POSE AS MADARA!?

dont make me pwn u again and please stop making these ridiculous threads and thinkin something different just for the heck of it. THINK WITH YOUR BRAINS!

edit: lol not trying to be rude though
 
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that is my point the shisui thing was based on his hair type some people said he was obito but...we all know he's dead the Izuna thing is ridiculous -.- but i still want to know who is in that coffin ~.~ that's the basis of my statements
 
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