Hyuuga fans.... Wtf

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Are you arguing with manga facts? :rolleyes:
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You mean anecdotal evidence as Kakashi is using a classical lore phrase "they say". People actually believe this?
 

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You mean anecdotal evidence as Kakashi is using a classical lore phrase "they say". People actually believe this?
Sharingan cant see the chakra pathway system that's why the byakugan is stated to be superior in that area.
 

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They probably just separated from the Otsutsuki clan after they thought it was crazy to steal eyes of the kids for a ritual
 

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The Sharingan can create time space portals and gigantic ethereal warriors.

Besides a select MS ability which only one person possesses, the ethereal warrior (Susano'o) you speak of has almost nothing to do with the eyes at all. It's the chakra of the user that spawns Susano'o.
 

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Sharingan cant see the chakra pathway system that's why the byakugan is stated to be superior in that area.





Given that the Sharingan see all the flow and chakra disruption and amount. I don't see any advantage Byakugan has over Sharingan, when additionally, it can give colour to different chakra as well, something Byakugan cannot even accomplish, along with seeing Senjutsu.
 

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Probably baseless hype from Hinata fans trying to make her clan look better since they can't justify the woman's own incompetence.
A Neji-hater has been discovered.
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You mean anecdotal evidence as Kakashi is using a classical lore phrase "they say". People actually believe this?
Seeing how Kaguya has TWO NORMAL Byakugan eyes (obviously born with them) and ONE SPECIAL Sharinnegan eye (in her freaking forehead), I'd say Kakashi was RIGHT in a way.
A very roundabout way, but still.
 

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Seeing how Kaguya has TWO NORMAL Byakugan eyes (obviously born with them) and ONE SPECIAL Sharinnegan eye (in her freaking forehead), I'd say Kakashi was RIGHT in a way.
A very roundabout way, but still.

Sharingan is the progenitor eye. He never knew about the lore. He's talking out of his ass, which he usually does.
 

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Sharingan is the progenitor eye. He never knew about the lore. He's talking out of his ass, which he usually does.
Either you said nonsense now, or you don't understand what I said instead.
Kaguya has Byakugan for NORMAL eyes.
Her Sharinnegan is an ADDITIONAL, "weird" eye.
Which means that she was BORN with Byakugans, only LATER somehow developing a Sharinnegan.
That is, IF we assume that she WAS BORN a "normal" HUMAN, of course.
Anyways, Sharingan is very closely tied to Rinnegan (not JUST leading to it, cause not a single Ootsutsuki is ever shown having JUST a Sharingan), thus it's some SPECIAL eye, not a NORMAL one.
In this sense, Byakugan clearly PREDATES Sharingan (since, again, Kaguya SEEMINGLY was BORN with 'B', but not 'SR' or 'S').
Sure, the fact that dojutsus got SPLIT between her sons, only complicates this even further.
Still, like I just said, not a single Ootsutsuki with JUST a Sharingan.
Which leads to actually wondering HOW did the Uchiha dojutsu even appeared (or was it Indra with a Sharingan already, I don't recall).
 

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Either you said nonsense now, or you don't understand what I said instead.
Kaguya has Byakugan for NORMAL eyes.
Her Sharinnegan is an ADDITIONAL, "weird" eye.
Which means that she was BORN with Byakugans, only LATER somehow developing a Sharinnegan.
That is, IF we assume that she WAS BORN a "normal" HUMAN, of course.
Anyways, Sharingan is very closely tied to Rinnegan (not JUST leading to it, cause not a single Ootsutsuki is ever shown having JUST a Sharingan), thus it's some SPECIAL eye, not a NORMAL one.
In this sense, Byakugan clearly PREDATES Sharingan (since, again, Kaguya SEEMINGLY was BORN with 'B', but not 'SR' or 'S').
Sure, the fact that dojutsus got SPLIT between her sons, only complicates this even further.
Still, like I just said, not a single Ootsutsuki with JUST a Sharingan.
Which leads to actually wondering HOW did the Uchiha dojutsu even appeared (or was it Indra with a Sharingan already, I don't recall).

First, Kakashi has zero idea about the history, so this was a shot in the dark. Second, the sharingan evolved out of the fruit of the God tree as its flower has the Sharingan. She developed it after she ate the fruit. How does it make Kakashi's statement any less contrived and stupid? Even in canon manga, the progenitor Sharingan had nothing to do with the Byakugan, when Kakashi is implying a lesser doujutsu form in terms of insight and origins. Third, the mutation in Kaguya and her power tier climbed exponentially because of the Rinne-Sharingan, which in turn was a metamorphosis induced by the fruit, as it allowed her to control people via genjutsu and use several other abilities.

Without the fruit and the subsequent 9 Tomoe Sharingan, she would have been the same cow fodder the rest of the Hyuga clan now is. What Kakashi is suggesting is the branching out of the eye and being a lesser version of the Byakugan through his dichotomous comparison in the last part of the dialogue. What you are suggesting is looking at it from a general perspective, when I am looking at the entire dialogue. My reply to the other individual had nothing to with Kaguya having a Byakugan or not, but the second point of comparison.
 

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Wouldn't say fodder especially when you consider the abilities it grants you(and the since the strongest character in the series relied on it the most) AND not to many uchiha's were stupid enough to mess with these guys, I mean even shisui who reined as strongest uchiha in his time couldn't even kill off Ao (who wasn't even a hyuuga) he just happened to have a byakugan and only one at that, so i definitely wouldn't call these guys fodder, but hey what ever helps you sleep at night...:)
 

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Wouldn't say fodder especially when you consider the abilities it grants you(and the since the strongest character in the series relied on it the most) AND not to many uchiha's were stupid enough to mess with these guys, I mean even shisui who reined as strongest uchiha in his time couldn't even kill off Ao (who wasn't even a hyuuga) he just happened to have a byakugan and only one at that, so i definitely wouldn't call these guys fodder, but hey what ever helps you sleep at night...:)
Nah, he/she just hates Hinata too much, loool.
 

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Hyuuga seem to be the most talked about thing on the base now damn, OP salty thou
 

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Hyuuga seem to be the most talked about thing on the base now damn, OP salty thou

Hyugas are a special clan long forgotten by fools who wanked the Uchiha. Now they get there shining moment. The jealousy has erupted out of them. There is no question had the Hyuga been giving as much relevance as the Uchiha they would have been a beast of there own.
 

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Hyugas are a special clan long forgotten by fools who wanked the Uchiha. Now they get there shining moment. The jealousy has erupted out of them. There is no question had the Hyuga been giving as much relevance as the Uchiha they would have been a beast of there own.

Lol which shining moment? They remained irrelevant throughout the manga. Thread was made because of that idiot wanker adding kaguya and her family line as hyuugas because he knws how weak the clan is on their own.
 

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Lol which shining moment? They remained irrelevant throughout the manga. Thread was made because of that idiot wanker adding kaguya and her family line as hyuugas because he knws how weak the clan is on their own.

Kaguya and her clan gave them the recognition they deserved. They remained irrelevant because the writer did not make them relevant. This had nothing to do with them being weak. Basically everyone's chakara came from the Kaguya linage. lol What difference does this make anyways?
 

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Kaguya and her clan gave them the recognition they deserved. They remained irrelevant because the writer did not make them relevant. This had nothing to do with them being weak. Basically everyone's chakara came from the Kaguya linage. lol What difference does this make anyways?

Okay they are not that weak, but they are not impressive at all.
 

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Given that the Sharingan see all the flow and chakra disruption and amount. I don't see any advantage Byakugan has over Sharingan, when additionally, it can give colour to different chakra as well, something Byakugan cannot even accomplish, along with seeing Senjutsu.

Byakugan can also see chakra color , kage summit when danzo used KA , who remarked at the similar eye color of the great shisui?
 

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for those uchiha fappers: *
Byakugan boost your eye sight, make your field of vision nearly 360 ( unless a dead angle big as a pen or less in the neck), you can see through things, and have the hability to see the structure of chakra channels inside a body.

What it means ?
Theorically, it's impossible to kill in the back a byakugan user. A sharingan user: peanuts if you are good enough like kakashi.
So in a true ninja fight and not those erzats of DBZ that kishi gave us through shipuuden, byakugan user is very difficult to take down in the back, contrary to anybody.

Sadly since the uchiha fapboys were more numerous than hyuuga fappers, he added fapping stuff to one, and put the other to the background.


*edit: More over the byakugan users are the best at CQC in konoha, see Hiashi feats, he can kick ass of dozens ennemies easily.

In part 1 we had specialised clans with roles, that was great:
Uchiha: illusionists
Hyuuga: cqc/recon
Nara: strategy, shadow manipulation
Yamanaka: mind and soul manipulation
Akimichi: body manipulation
Aburame: insects manipulation
Inuzuka: fights with dogs / vets

And then the fapping legion appeared...
 
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