[Theory] Hyuuga Clan:The Direct Descendants Of Juubi[Final Update]

[KillerMongoose]

It is a well done thread, and I can see that you took time too make it so props. I personally do not agree. For me to believe something it must be stated in the Manga.

Well done.

 

[garas56]

Well i agre with u In some terms I Bet 4 Clans are realated
Senju Clan realated with Uzumaky clan-Spiritual energy and regeneration abilitys
And uchiha clan is realated with Houga clan-2 Dojutsus,Sharingun and Byakugun
Maybe they are not direckt descendants but they are realated with so6p

 

[tysoncs]

You don't seem to understand what's different about Gentle Fist and Strong Fist. The Gentle Fist isn't a strong powerful strike. It's agile and exploiting the opponent's weaknesses by attacking their tendons and ligaments. The Juubi is using Strong Fist where here merely makes a powerful strike. Also, that isn't a chakra rotation. If that would be a chakra rotation, it'll be similar to Neji's but it creates hurricanes around himself so it's a wind jutsu, using his chakra to manipulate the wind. Using purely chakra and using your chakra to manipulate the wind is different. Again, you're over generalizing things. Saying a wind jutsu similar to Neji's rotation is like saying all the elements are interconnected and everyone is similar. You're not making any connections between Juubi and Neji but only the similarity of both are able to use taijutsu and chakra which includes any shinobi.

i understood the difference between them...dats why i said its similar not exact..i even said gentle fist differs from strong fist..read the comment properly!And dat rotation of chakra is similar only the menthod is changed..neji rotates chakra around his body..while juubi an rotate chakra on his free will..only the location differs!
this technique utilises the chakra control gained through Gentle Fist training to release a huge amount of chakra from all the chakra points on the user's body.
and then rotates the chakra!

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well, considering you used some of my work, how can i disagree?

thankz for aggreing!

One sec Mr. simple, you didn't answer my question at all, my question isn't why Sharingan can cast genjutsu, my question is why Byakugan can't, if Byakugan gave arise to sharingan, SO6P must be Hyuuga, which is again wrong, he was Hagoromo, how he got Byakugan rather, do you have any explanation for all this points??

wel...Juubi possess a dojutsu which is mixture of byakugan,sharingan,ms and rinnegan.
but however only the rinnegan was passed down the so6p!
rinnegan gave rise to elder ancestor's dojutsu..but when juubi's chakra got mixed with that dojutsu..it got a new form..which we know as sharingan!
Thus the first possessor of byakugan was juubi..however the powers of byakugan was passed down through the sage through the fruit eaten by kaguya!But the powers of sharingan at dat time didnt come into existance!
To perform genjutsu..sharingan is the only dojutsu available...juubi is the first entity which can use normal genjutsus But now it cant use normal genjutsus but only high level MS techlike infinite tsukyomi..as stated by madara..
as his chakra was passed down the elder ancestor directly..so the elder ancestor possessed the abilty to use genjutsu too!
thus juubi must have been using sharingan abilties to cast norml genjutsus..as the knowledge of genjutsu was passed down the elder ancestor..thus hyuuga were born without the knowledge of casting genjutsu....
Morely,byakugan is a part of juubi's dojutsu...but sharingan comes from sage along with juubi's chakra mixed which includes the knowledge of how to cast genjutsu...as juubi was the first entity to possess the knowledge of genjutsu...

NOTE:the difference between MS and sharingan is..with MS u gain a new genjutsu and u cant use abilties of sharingan while using MS..prefer manga for the evidence!

they tel hyuuga is the origin of sharingan bcz powers byakugan prevailed earlier within the sage dan powers of sharingan came into existance...
i would give u more evidence later!

 

[biswa112]

One sec Mr. simple, you didn't answer my question at all, my question isn't why Sharingan can cast genjutsu, my question is why Byakugan can't, if Byakugan gave arise to sharingan, SO6P must be Hyuuga, which is again wrong, he was Hagoromo, how he got Byakugan rather, do you have any explanation for all this points??

sry i didnt got ur question...but u already got the answer from my friend so..i hope u feel okay!

 

[tysoncs]

It is a well done thread, and I can see that you took time too make it so props. I personally do not agree. For me to believe something it must be stated in the Manga.

Well done.

thankz buddy for appreciation!

Well i agre with u In some terms I Bet 4 Clans are realated
Senju Clan realated with Uzumaky clan-Spiritual energy and regeneration abilitys
And uchiha clan is realated with Houga clan-2 Dojutsus,Sharingun and Byakugun
Maybe they are not direckt descendants but they are realated with so6p

oh..yeah i digged it!=D=D=D=D

 

[The Sach]

wel...Juubi possess a dojutsu which is mixture of byakugan,sharingan,ms and rinnegan.
but however only the rinnegan was passed down the so6p!
rinnegan gave rise to elder ancestor's dojutsu..but when juubi's chakra got mixed with that dojutsu..it got a new form..which we know as sharingan!
Thus the first possessor of byakugan was juubi..however the powers of byakugan was passed down through the sage through the fruit eaten by kaguya!But the powers of sharingan at dat time didnt come into existance!
To perform genjutsu..sharingan is the only dojutsu available...juubi is the first entity which can use normal genjutsus But now it cant use normal genjutsus but only high level MS techlike infinite tsukyomi..as stated by madara..
as his chakra was passed down the elder ancestor directly..so the elder ancestor possessed the abilty to use genjutsu too!
thus juubi must have been using sharingan abilties to cast norml genjutsus..as the knowledge of genjutsu was passed down the elder ancestor..thus hyuuga were born without the knowledge of casting genjutsu....
Morely,byakugan is a part of juubi's dojutsu...but sharingan comes from sage along with juubi's chakra mixed which includes the knowledge of how to cast genjutsu...as juubi was the first entity to possess the knowledge of genjutsu...

NOTE:the difference between MS and sharingan is..with MS u gain a new genjutsu and u cant use abilties of sharingan while using MS..prefer manga for the evidence!

they tel hyuuga is the origin of sharingan bcz powers byakugan prevailed earlier within the sage dan powers of sharingan came into existance...
i would give u more evidence later!

Dude you have made various comments that really contradict with your Original post..
1. You said Byakugan is dojutsu that sage had, but in this post you are saying something different..

When the Sage began his journey into the ninja world, he gained a technique that allowed him to gain knowledge of chakra. A technique called Byakugan.

2. Even if we assume that you wanted to say that Juubi had byakugan, then my question is straightforward, proof, any logic?? And as per that entire Hyuuga vs Juubi similarity thing, I disagree with most of them, so don't say they have similarities so Juubi had byakugan.
3.

they tel hyuuga is the origin of sharingan bcz powers byakugan prevailed earlier within the sage dan powers of sharingan came into existance...
i would give u more evidence later!

^What proof or logic you have to support this statement, except that Kakashi statement(I am gonna prove it wrong too, in my next theory..)^

 

[iiPyromaniac]

U r wrong there was no chakra dat time surrounding juubi's hands..kurama himself states dat juubi is really fast:

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hyuuga's fighting style is a way similar to juubi..bcz there techniques juubi uses based upon chakra nodes...see my pic in theory point no.7 in abitlies comparison!
I said its similar not exact...
And i said hyuugas are direct descendants of juubi...bcz of their relation to s06p which makes it more convenient!
have u even read my 3rd point?


The fighting style of the Hyuuga's is based off of their ability to see chakra nodes. much similar to juubi..juubi targets its enemies by sensing and seeing his enemies' chakra...
Juubi's main target became naruto when he saw the bijuu's chakra inside him:

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He targeted the whole shinobi alliance by sensing their chakra:see what 8-tails says here:

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Thankz for appreciation!

I would try my best next time..exams are near!

thankz for agreeing!

thankz buddy...

ok..thankz for extended info..i will add this to my theory..reps to u!

The Juubi targeted Naruto after "sensing" a collection of it's split chakra. How were the Tailed Beasts created? Through the splitting of the Juubi's chakra. The Juubi also targeted Bee after sensing he had a tailed beast, which was made from the splitting of its chakra. The Juubi can't see chakra nodes, it's sensing its stolen chakra. The Juubi can see the flow of Chakra, but not the actual chakra nodes. The Sharingan can see the flow of Chakra, but not the actual nodes. The Hyuuga fighting style revolves around their ability to see these chakra nodes and use their Gentle Fist to seal these nodes, rendering their enemy unable to use Chakra. The Juubi is using the wood style to absorb chakra, not seal it. The Hyuuga, Uchiha and Senju clans are not direct descendants of the Juubi. The Sage of Six Paths isn't either. Kaguya > Sage > Senju & Uchiha. Juubi > Tailed Beasts & Zetsu creatures. There is no actual background information on the Hyuuga clan to make any conclusions about their origins. The Hyuuga's Rotation technique is actually extremely different from what the Juubi did. Rotation utilizes the Byakugan's 360° vision and the releasing of Chakra through the Chakra nodes located throughout the body, the clan member then starts to rotate at a high velocity, comparable to a spinning top, creating a protective vortex of Chakra. It is also worth mentioning that Kurama did not state that the Juubi was fast, its what Naruto thought. The Juubi isn't manipulating Chakra when it uses a physical attack. The strike is a physical attack that is both fast and powerful, thus it is nothing like the Hyuuga's techniques. The style of the gentle fist is not intended to cause physical harm but rather to incapacitate an opponent swiftly and effectively by sealing the chakra nodes. It is also worth noting that it is said the Sharingan is derived from the Byakugan, but there is no evidence to support this, thus rendering it inaccurate.

 

[LordWaffle]

1st, Gedo Mazo thing is waaaaay too far fetched, randomized markings aren't of any interest to facts, just check Gedo Mazo while it fights, they're randomized.

2nd, there are no indications to say that juubi released chakra from it's body and then start to rotate it, the hurricane could've been made with way too many things AND the juubi made multiple hurricanes. They don't need chakra to repel stuff, just chakra to make them which could've been done from the air by the looks of it.

3rd, Juubi's telescopic sight is more probable to be related to sennin style chakra sensing than the byuakugan, it would just make more sense really.

4th, the only weak point that's mentioned is the lack of dimension shifting and his sensors wouldn't help him against hirashin when it's instantaneous and with natural energy.

5th, "Gentle Fist" in Juubis case is very likely to be just raw power AND it didn't paralyze the chakra points as it should, it's more like Tsunades chakra control and then rapid release.

6th, Juubi didn't notice 8tails because Kakashi brought it from the other dimension, though why it didn't see Kakashi and the clone coming, I don't know, maybe it's animalistic instincts were too focused on the main enemy it just shot at.

7th, I agree with others that the symbol is quite commonly used, but could be something. Though it's unlikely, in Hyuugas case it's most likely done so because of their sight on the chakra center.

8th, your need of attention is too damn high son. Too damn high. You don't go putting that sort of messages in random people's pages, that's just... NO!

You did have effort put into it, but your idea at first had probably nothing to do with these "facts" of yours.
And when you invite people to comment on your theory, appreciate what they write, because you asked them to challenge it. To keep your own idea working you have to answer to the challenges people give you, not badmouth them.

 

[iiPyromaniac]

i understood the difference between them...dats why i said its similar not exact..i even said gentle fist differs from strong fist..read the comment properly!And dat rotation of chakra is similar only the menthod is changed..neji rotates chakra around his body..while juubi an rotate chakra on his free will..only the location differs!
this technique utilises the chakra control gained through Gentle Fist training to release a huge amount of chakra from all the chakra points on the user's body.
and then rotates the chakra!

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thankz for aggreing!

wel...Juubi possess a dojutsu which is mixture of byakugan,sharingan,ms and rinnegan.
but however only the rinnegan was passed down the so6p!
rinnegan gave rise to elder ancestor's dojutsu..but when juubi's chakra got mixed with that dojutsu..it got a new form..which we know as sharingan!
Thus the first possessor of byakugan was juubi..however the powers of byakugan was passed down through the sage through the fruit eaten by kaguya!But the powers of sharingan at dat time didnt come into existance!
To perform genjutsu..sharingan is the only dojutsu available...juubi is the first entity which can use normal genjutsus But now it cant use normal genjutsus but only high level MS techlike infinite tsukyomi..as stated by madara..
as his chakra was passed down the elder ancestor directly..so the elder ancestor possessed the abilty to use genjutsu too!
thus juubi must have been using sharingan abilties to cast norml genjutsus..as the knowledge of genjutsu was passed down the elder ancestor..thus hyuuga were born without the knowledge of casting genjutsu....
Morely,byakugan is a part of juubi's dojutsu...but sharingan comes from sage along with juubi's chakra mixed which includes the knowledge of how to cast genjutsu...as juubi was the first entity to possess the knowledge of genjutsu...

NOTE:the difference between MS and sharingan is..with MS u gain a new genjutsu and u cant use abilties of sharingan while using MS..prefer manga for the evidence!

they tel hyuuga is the origin of sharingan bcz powers byakugan prevailed earlier within the sage dan powers of sharingan came into existance...
i would give u more evidence later!

Mangekyou Sharingan and normal Sharingan share the same base abilities — Sharingan lets the user see their opponents Chakra flow, use Genjutsu and copy Ninjutsu and Taijutsu. Mangekyou Sharingan simply takes it a step higher and grants its user the use of Susano'o, Amaterasu and some form of special technique that differs between each user.

 

[nickman013]

Nice theory

 

[ReDCloudZ]

Just read it all sounds amazing, feel like you've spoilt it for me now LOL

 

[chad062388]

An interesting theory and a good read

 

[crono0929]

Wow, good read, plus rep

 

[brownbear]

Mucho credit for all the thinking you did. But in my humble opinion I belive you over thought this. When you look at something with the intentions of proving your own theory its easy to ignore how assanine you really sound

 

[Hypemaster]

Very nice, neji has relevance again

 

[CeeRock Damigro]

Great theory!

 

[tysoncs]

Great theory!

Very nice, neji has relevance again

Mucho credit for all the thinking you did. But in my humble opinion I belive you over thought this. When you look at something with the intentions of proving your own theory its easy to ignore how assanine you really sound

Wow, good read, plus rep

An interesting theory and a good read

Just read it all sounds amazing, feel like you've spoilt it for me now LOL

Nice theory

Thankz all of u for appreciation!

Mangekyou Sharingan and normal Sharingan share the same base abilities — Sharingan lets the user see their opponents Chakra flow, use Genjutsu and copy Ninjutsu and Taijutsu. Mangekyou Sharingan simply takes it a step higher and grants its user the use of Susano'o, Amaterasu and some form of special technique that differs between each user.

No..mangekyo sharingan cant copy ninjutsu..although it allows to see the chakra...have u ever seen kakashi copying ninjutsu with mangekyo sharingan?

Dude you have made various comments that really contradict with your Original post..
1. You said Byakugan is dojutsu that sage had, but in this post you are saying something different..

2. Even if we assume that you wanted to say that Juubi had byakugan, then my question is straightforward, proof, any logic?? And as per that entire Hyuuga vs Juubi similarity thing, I disagree with most of them, so don't say they have similarities so Juubi had byakugan.
3.
^What proof or logic you have to support this statement, except that Kakashi statement(I am gonna prove it wrong too, in my next theory..)^

Buddy i said the sage possessed power of byakugaon!
i said juubi had the mixture of all dojutsus!
u got it wrong..wel i will prove u something else in the part-ii of this theory..just wait!

The Juubi targeted Naruto after "sensing" a collection of it's split chakra. How were the Tailed Beasts created? Through the splitting of the Juubi's chakra. The Juubi also targeted Bee after sensing he had a tailed beast, which was made from the splitting of its chakra. The Juubi can't see chakra nodes, it's sensing its stolen chakra. The Juubi can see the flow of Chakra, but not the actual chakra nodes. The Sharingan can see the flow of Chakra, but not the actual nodes. The Hyuuga fighting style revolves around their ability to see these chakra nodes and use their Gentle Fist to seal these nodes, rendering their enemy unable to use Chakra. The Juubi is using the wood style to absorb chakra, not seal it. The Hyuuga, Uchiha and Senju clans are not direct descendants of the Juubi. The Sage of Six Paths isn't either. Kaguya > Sage > Senju & Uchiha. Juubi > Tailed Beasts & Zetsu creatures. There is no actual background information on the Hyuuga clan to make any conclusions about their origins. The Hyuuga's Rotation technique is actually extremely different from what the Juubi did. Rotation utilizes the Byakugan's 360° vision and the releasing of Chakra through the Chakra nodes located throughout the body, the clan member then starts to rotate at a high velocity, comparable to a spinning top, creating a protective vortex of Chakra. It is also worth mentioning that Kurama did not state that the Juubi was fast, its what Naruto thought. The Juubi isn't manipulating Chakra when it uses a physical attack. The strike is a physical attack that is both fast and powerful, thus it is nothing like the Hyuuga's techniques. The style of the gentle fist is not intended to cause physical harm but rather to incapacitate an opponent swiftly and effectively by sealing the chakra nodes. It is also worth noting that it is said the Sharingan is derived from the Byakugan, but there is no evidence to support this, thus rendering it inaccurate.

wel...its not mentioned in the manga dat juubi can see chakra nodes...so i didnt told that..i just said he can see chakra within a person..i assumed the similarity in the mechanism of viewing their chakra bcz juubi posess the abilties of byakugan too!
ur right about the gentle fist...but wrong about the rotation!
May be if taken in another view juubi must be trying to pull back its opponents with his physical attacks..
in both cases chakra is rotated...in case of neji he rotates his body to rotate the chakra released and in case of juubi he just rotates it without spinning his body..so they are a bit similar..i already said it earlier..u must read in wiki about juubi's strom attack..u will get it!

 

[The Sach]

Buddy i said the sage possessed power of byakugaon!
i said juubi had the mixture of all dojutsus!
u got it wrong..wel i will prove u something else in the part-ii of this theory..just wait!

How sage got Byakugan??
And what makes you say that juubi had the mixture of all dojutsus??
Please prove it...:yeah:

 

[Blinkie Uchiha]

Neji = Juubi XD

 

[Reraru]

well, considering you used some of my work, how can i disagree?

But he used most of your theory didn't he?He didn't credited you properly.dattebayo!Lol