Human path/Naraka path soul ripping against Kamui user

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys, I just wanted to ask this question because it always seems interesting to me.

Well, According to Obito's fans phasing ability is not manual so he can turn it on or turn it off whenever he need to, but instead it is automatic ability which turn on when his body overlap with something and turn off when it stop overlapping.

Basically it makes Obito immune to physcial damage in any form. However he has nothing to defend himself against spiritual attack well at least not with Kamui.

The gravity is crealy shown affecting him, so he would be pulled with BT and he won't turn intangible because his body will not overlap with something. Now If rinnegan user try to attack Obito/Kakashi with physcial attack then it won't work.

However If soul ripping ability was used, Then basically it would work. it of course bring some troubles like:

Soul ripping requires physcial contact, right ?, so theoretically Rinnegan user hand would overlap with Obito's head. However according to databook IV translation soul ripping freeze victim making unable to resist or do anything once physical contact is even barerly made.

So basically it comes down to who would be faster, phasing ability or exection of soul ripping ability, yes ?

What do you think guys ?

 

[Izanamı.]

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[KCMNaruto]

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Only when something overlap with his body, if it just touch of surface of his top of head, then I doubt it would already counts as overlaping and this even barerly touch would be enough for soul ripping against which you can not defend unless playing in chakra/souls tug battle

 

[Izanamı.]

Only when something overlap with his body, if it just touch of surface of his top of head, then I doubt it would already counts as overlaping and this even barerly touch would be enough for soul ripping against which you can not defend unless playing in chakra/souls tug battle

Soul Ripping Technique doesnt travel through dimensions.

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[KCMNaruto]

Soul Ripping Technique doesnt travel through dimensions.

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but phasing ability is manual, it seems to act like automaticaly when something overlap with part of his body. This is at least what Obito fans explained to me.

SO unless you think it is manual I believe it could work

 

[Izanamı.]

but phasing ability is manual, it seems to act like automaticaly when something overlap with part of his body. This is at least what Obito fans explained to me.

SO unless you think it is manual I believe it could work

It doesnt work even if it is manual or automatic.

It's not manual because Minato Rasengan'd Obito using FTG too fast
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[mat2720]

no obito doesn't technically exist in the normal dimension while hes intangible, hes more of a projection than an actual body so soul ripping wont work

 

[KCMNaruto]

no obito doesn't technically exist in the normal dimension while hes intangible, hes more of a projection than an actual body so soul ripping wont work

but he can not go intangible unless something overlap with his body, do you understand ?

He can not freely manipulate it or change it, while having MS activated or that at least what I got from manga.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Lol. Naruto could physically hold his soul.

And as he did it automatically means the jutsu doesnt bind, freeze or restrain the user.

#hype #busted

 

[V h o]

As of yet, there is no counter to kamui bar FTG and possibly Sasuke's shift thing which is faster/instant. The human path is not faster than kamui.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Lol. Naruto could physically hold his soul.

And as he did it automatically means the jutsu doesnt bind, freeze or restrain the user.

#hype #busted

but Naruto was skilled and expierienced at tug war as Kurama stated. He knows how to fight, besides you need chakra arm to do something like Naruto does.

Hype still intact

As of yet, there is no counter to kamui bar FTG and possibly Sasuke's shift thing which is faster/instant. The human path is not faster than kamui.

Well the human path alone right, but combined with BT which restrict.freeze victim I say otherwise.

 

[lndra]

Actually incorrect.

I understand what you are saying. For Kamui to work he first has to overlap with a physical object, but you are missing a single component. He doesn't overlap through an object on contact, he firstly has the ability activated then goes through the object. No Mangekyo Ability activates through phyiscal contact, their visual magic op shizz.

We've seen this in scans. His body was sent to the Kamui dimension even before he went through items and techniques.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Actually incorrect.

I understand what you are saying. For Kamui to work he first has to overlap with a physical object, but you are missing a single component. He doesn't overlap through an object on contact, he firstly has the ability activated then goes through the object. No Mangekyo Ability activates through phyiscal contact, their visual magic op shizz.

We've seen this in scans. His body was sent to the Kamui dimension even before he went through items and techniques.

Well if it is like it work, then meh I forfeit

 

[Oblivionx]

kamui is still faster and as for it freezes opponent... naruto slammed a rasengan in nagato's face though it was absorbed with preta but my point is made....

 

[NSUNSR]

Preta Path> Kamui, ST> Kamui, and now we know that BT+Soul Rip>Kamui.
Its official. Obito stands no chance against Nagato.U_U

 

[KCMNaruto]

kamui is still faster and as for it freezes opponent... naruto slammed a rasengan in nagato's face though it was absorbed with preta but my point is made....

hmm, fair enough, but it would still work as Rinnegan user could use Preta path as well to dry Kamui user chakra making him unable to go other dimenssion

Preta Path> Kamui, ST> Kamui, and now we know that BT+Soul Rip>Kamui.
Its official. Obito stands no chance against Nagato.U_U

@ I disagree with bold one, Obito can still win and almost the same number of time as Nagato.

It is just Nagato can also beat Obito with these combo or abilities this is what changed.

 

[lanakui8]

chakra is physical and spiritual energy. When obito phases into ground, not even sensors can detect him, nor can chakra constructs touch him when intangible. Human path/naraka soul ripping gets phased through.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Trying so hard to beat kamui.
But since you give up then it's safe to say
kamui> rinnegan.

 

[NSUNSR]

Trying so hard to beat kamui.
But since you give up then it's safe to say
kamui> rinnegan.

Nope. Rinnengan>>>MS.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Trying so hard to beat kamui.
But since you give up then it's safe to say
kamui> rinnegan.

BT still work on Obito, it is just Rinnegan user has no way to finish him until Obito run out of charka and be unable to phase.

Unless some Yin-Yang release technique would be enough but only Madara, Hagoromo had it.