How will Naruto even compete?

ShinobiEmperor

Active member
Regular
Joined
Oct 13, 2011
Messages
813
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
This is interesting and the first time I heard of this. Where or what in your opinion is the most accurate translation on the internet? And what does Tobi mean by second and third rikudou then?
No its not an opinion, it was debunked by the RAW. The chapters you read are written by the translators, the original words are in the RAW. This isnt the first time the translators **** it up, for example they wrote (possibly because it seemed "more poetic") that Kabuto said "I will learn the secrets of RS" when in fact Kabuto did said "I will unlock the mind of RS" which can mean 2 things entirely.

Tobi said that he having Senju and Uchiha powers was the Nidaime Rikudou (second Rikudou) and then said that Nagato was the Sandaime Rikudou (Third Rikudou). This is why it is implied heavily that to unlock Rinnegan you have to mix Uchiha powers with Senju DNA.

Madara said something along the lines "Now having both the powers of the Senju and Uchiha in one body I am the Second Rikudou" in the same chapter he got the Rinnegan then in the same chapter he recognized Nagato's strenght and called him the "Third Rikudou" now unless there are 2 ways of becoming Rikudou it appears that becoming a Rikudou = having the Rinnegan and for that you need both Senju and Uchiha powers. Though this chapter would tell you that Nagato is the equivalent of Kakashi in Rinnegan since Nagato unlike Madara couldnt turn off the Rinnegan neither use the super haxx techniques like the meteor.
 

lanakau888

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Sep 15, 2011
Messages
4,562
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
No its not an opinion, it was debunked by the RAW. The chapters you read are written by the translators, the original words are in the RAW. This isnt the first time the translators **** it up, for example they wrote (possibly because it seemed "more poetic") that Kabuto said "I will learn the secrets of RS" when in fact Kabuto did said "I will unlock the mind of RS" which can mean 2 things entirely.
Cool, do you translate it from raw yourself? And in your opinion which scanlation is the most accurate one? I know that there are definitely inconsistencies in translations. Take the raikage vs naruto fight. In one scanlation it has naruto saying "wow what a heavy punch.. what power" in another scanlation in the same panel, it has naruto saying "what a punch it felt like it weight a million pounds... if I take one clean I'm screwed." I would like to know which translation is the most accurate one.

Tobi said that he having Senju and Uchiha powers was the Nidaime Rikudou (second Rikudou) and then said that Nagato was the Sandaime Rikudou (Third Rikudou). This is why it is implied heavily that to unlock Rinnegan you have to mix Uchiha powers with Senju DNA.

Madara said something along the lines "Now having both the powers of the Senju and Uchiha in one body I am the Second Rikudou" in the same chapter he got the Rinnegan then in the same chapter he recognized Nagato's strenght and called him the "Third Rikudou" now unless there are 2 ways of becoming Rikudou it appears that becoming a Rikudou = having the Rinnegan and for that you need both Senju and Uchiha powers. Though this chapter would tell you that Nagato is the equivalent of Kakashi in Rinnegan since Nagato unlike Madara couldnt turn off the Rinnegan neither use the super haxx techniques like the meteor.
Okay cool it clears things up a lot thanks.
 

Retsu

Active member
Elite
Joined
Jun 7, 2011
Messages
9,415
Kin
52๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
30๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
one thing that gets me is how much the manga seems to be stressing the eyes of the sage, I mean MS, and EMS/Rinnegan just makes it seem like wtf do the Senju have to work with? Like if Rinnegan is the eye of the sage, wtf tech is supposed to be of the body?
 

ShinobiEmperor

Active member
Regular
Joined
Oct 13, 2011
Messages
813
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
Cool, do you translate it from raw yourself? And in your opinion which scanlation is the most accurate one? I know that there are definitely inconsistencies in translations. Take the raikage vs naruto fight. In one scanlation it has naruto saying "wow what a heavy punch.. what power" in another scanlation in the same panel, it has naruto saying "what a punch it felt like it weight a million pounds... if I take one clean I'm screwed." I would like to know which translation is the most accurate one.



Okay cool it clears things up a lot thanks.
As far as I know and I could be wrong, at the momment there is no universally most accuarate translation, though at least right now it usually switch between *********** and mangareader on a somewhat weekly basis.

If you want to be safe from "translators **** up" simply search for spoierls and raw threads, there people that undestand japanesse will come to a general consensus, usually this is the true unaltered version, while the translated version is usually the altered one.
 

Macho

Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2011
Messages
67
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
He's Naruto he'll always find a way.

My guess is with Rikudou Sage mode. Or even Naruto being the ten tail jinchuuriki and using the "great sage toad" that Jiraiya uses to shallow his enemy as a Summoning
 
Last edited:

ShinobiEmperor

Active member
Regular
Joined
Oct 13, 2011
Messages
813
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
Madara is not the final villain. Kishi stated this in an interview
He didnt. He only was ambiguous and basically refused to confirm it. However the final villain is its irrelevant, the manga isnt going to close without showing us Rikudou's and Juubi's power levels which only a Juubi jin final villain could achieve.

The final villain will be either Tobi, Kabuto, Orochimaru or......... ugh Sasuke which would be a shit FV but its possible. I am content with however is the finall villain as long as it is not Sasuke, because

1) This would make redemption impossible, if he is the ultimate villain
2) If he is redeedmed, even after being the ultimate evil to bit will be even shittier
3) He doesnt has the big goals to do it, his ultimate goal is to destroy a shitty village, Madara has worldwide plans.
 
Last edited:

Hyperion

Active member
Elite
Joined
Oct 12, 2010
Messages
9,466
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
He didnt. He only was ambiguous and basically refused to confirm it. However the final villain is its irrelevant, the manga isnt going to close without showing us Rikudou's and Juubi's power levels which only a Juubi jin final villain could achieve.

The final villain will be either Tobi, Kabuto, Orochimaru or......... ugh Sasuke which would be a shit FV but its possible. I am content with however is the finall villain as long as it is not Sasuke, because

1) This would make redemption impossible, if he is the ultimate villain
2) If he is redeedmed, even after being the ultimate evil to bit will be even shittier
3) He doesnt has the big goals to do it, his ultimate goal is to destroy a shitty village, Madara has worldwide plans.

Kishi blatantly answered a question in clear Japanese which was translated to English:

Q: Is Madara Uchiha the final Villain?
Kishi: No!
 

~Captain Bravo~

Active member
Elite
Joined
Sep 10, 2010
Messages
6,655
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
You maybe saying naruto will fighting with kyubi and sage mode powers and thats what is going to happen.........

All i want say is that we are again going to see great fight and storyline.when you already know that our manga hero 'naruto'
''never learned when to give up'' that part excites me.eagerly waiting for next manga.
 
Top