[Discussion] How well informed are you on Global warming

[demon of the leaf]

Yea that's basic chemistry but what about it has to do with man made resources via fossil fuels which is causing incline in global warming?

Yeah as we breath in oxygen we release co2 but that's natural heating of the earth that can be sustained. The earth gets warm and cold, it's a cycle however the endless use of fossil fuel is rapidly increasing the earth's temperature unnaturally throughout the years with staggering margins bro.

Well there is a a way to reverse the damage you have to find that fine balance too much on oneside you have to fill the other to achieve balence

So basically we have the means we had it even since the start of time the good old potted plant helps eat off co2 so say if every person had a potted plant or two in there house that would cut a 1/4 of the cot emission do get where im going

 

[Lightbringer]

Well there is a a way to reverse the damage you have to find that fine balance too much on oneside you have to fill the other to achieve balence

So basically we have the means we had it even since the start of time the good old potted plant helps

Actually no, we've already past a point of no return in carbon levels. The Earth will never ever ever get below what it used to be.

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[demon of the leaf]

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And have the scientists that are promoting this preposing that we switch to clean energy which even that that still produces emissions to make the metals and allow for upkeep even green cars cause green house gases to be made

 

[demon of the leaf]

Actually no, we've already past a point of no return in carbon levels. The Earth will never ever ever get below what it used to be.

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Then by all means give up kind sir there are always ways to reduce co2 and it is relatively simple as that you severely underestimate the human mind and humanity's will to achieve that which was said impossible by nay sayers

 

[Lightbringer]

And have the scientists that are promoting this preposing that we switch to clean energy which even that that still produces emissions to make the metals and allow for upkeep even green cars cause green house gases to be made

A moot point when the alternative has caused beyond disastrous effects.

So you're in favor of an energy that will ultimately destroy the planet in a few decades?

We currently have the ability to switch a renewable source of energy that can power the entire country this very day and it will be safer for the environment.

 

[Adam Driver]

Well there is a a way to reverse the damage you have to find that fine balance too much on oneside you have to fill the other to achieve balence

So basically we have the means we had it even since the start of time the good old potted plant helps eat off co2 so say if every person had a potted plant or two in there house that would cut a 1/4 of the cot emission do get where im going

What lmao that and then some wouldn't even remotely change the temperature back to the natural state it had prior the times of burning these fuels. You can have 1000 plants per person it still won't change because more heat produced by fossil fuels everyday. Not sure if you're aware of how much heat these factories and fuel plants release in 1 given day?

Solar energy is the best answer we have right now. NO it won't change the temperature back to the way it was nothing can at the moment but it'll definitely have a lesser effect on the earth's rising temperatures.

 

[Lightbringer]

Then by all means give up kind sir there are always ways to reduce co2 and it is relatively simple as that you severely underestimate the human mind and humanity's will to achieve that which was said impossible by nay sayers

There is no evidence whatsoever that it's possible at this point in time or in the future.

What you're arguing in favor for might not even ever exist.

Of course we shouldn't give up. But this kind of thinking is regressive because it detracts from the present danger we are in.

 

[Adam Driver]

A much much muchx1000000billionth lesser effect lmao

 

[demon of the leaf]

A moot point when the alternative has caused beyond disastrous effects.

So you're in favor of an energy that will ultimately destroy the planet in a few decades?

We currently have the ability to switch a renewable source of energy that can power the entire country this very day and it will be safer for the environment.

Not quite you have to clear land for those solar panels which means no trees or bushes which clean the air of the co2 that is a very powerful ally we are killing off so basically we are cutting of a leg to replace a thumb

 

[Adam Driver]

Not quite you have to clear land for those solar panels which means no trees or bushes which clean the air of the co2 that is a very powerful ally we are killing off so basically we are cutting of a leg to replace a thumb

Absolutely not an amount that would drastically destroy plants and trees. Solar panels can actually be applied to buildings( and we've shit ton of those lol)

 

[Lightbringer]

Not quite you have to clear land for those solar panels which means no trees or bushes which clean the air of the co2 that is a very powerful ally we are killing off so basically we are cutting of a leg to replace a thumb

You are talking nonsense.

You can build roads and houses tiled with solar panels. Germany does this.

 

[demon of the leaf]

There is no evidence whatsoever that it's possible at this point in time or in the future.

What you're arguing in favor for might not even ever exist.

Of course we shouldn't give up. But this kind of thinking is regressive because it detracts from the present danger we are in.

By all accounts the key is plant life to regress the effects which could take years even if we found a balance with enough plants to use to counteract all the fossil cars it would be a long run even still my point stands we aren't going anywhere green without plants

 

[demon of the leaf]

You are talking nonsense.

You can build roads and houses tiled with solar panels. Germany does this.

I will give you this win on this account that slipped my mind i was thinking the Mojave deserts solar panels lol

 

[Lightbringer]

By all accounts the key is plant life to regress the effects which could take years even if we found a balance with enough plants to use to counteract all the fossil cars it would be a long run even still my point stands we aren't going anywhere green without plants

You don't know what you're talking about.

Seriously, you're just spouting fiction.

CARBON DIOXIDE IS NOT THE SAME AS CARBON!!!

 

[demon of the leaf]

Absolutely not an amount that would drastically destroy plants and trees. Solar panels can actually be applied to buildings( and we've shit ton of those lol)

Yeah i thought of that after the fact i posted at the time my mind was on the Mojave deserts solar plant

 

[demon of the leaf]

You don't know what you're talking about.

Seriously, you're just spouting fiction.

CARBON DIOXIDE IS NOT THE SAME AS CARBON!!!

Carbon is a mineral that you can mine and if you compress it you can make a diamond so yeah its not the same and its also used in coal as well and it is the most a abundant natural resource and is non pollutant its in the very ground we stand on

Carbon dioxide is made from burning wood, burning gas, breathing driving, your car, factories and evaporation and volcanism (volcanic eruptions) so you might not know what your talking about.
With all due respect
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[Lightbringer]

Carbon is a mineral that you can mine and if you compress it you can make a diamond so yeah its not the same and its also used in coal as well and it is the most a abundant natural resource and is non pollutant its in the very ground we stand on

Carbon dioxide is made from burning wood, burning gas, breathing driving, your car, factories and evaporation and volcanism (volcanic eruptions) so you might not know what your talking about.
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How do you have plant life if there is drought?

High levels of Carbon Dioxide causes drought. There are currently water wars in India and the Middle East.

Our planet is warming and plants die at extreme temperatures.

You're not factoring these variables in.

And just because it could be a solution, does not contradict switching to renewable energy.

So what is your argument?

You're defending fossil fuels while saying how plants will save us all. It's contradictory.

 

[demon of the leaf]

How do you have plant life if there is drought?

High levels of Carbon Dioxide causes drought. There are currently water wars in India and the Middle East.

Our planet is warming and plants die at extreme temperatures.

You're not factoring these variables in.

And just because it could be a solution, does not contradict switching to renewable energy.

So what is your argument?

You're defending fossil fuels while saying how plants will save us all. It's contradictory.

My point is if you have enough to counteract even fossil fuels it would make a bigger difference plus you wouldnt need to say it was for combating global warming it would in effect reverse most of the damage it would be part of the solution maybe even slow the issue for even for hardliners against it to look at clean energy as a cheaper way for energy

Most of the back lash is because fossils fuels are seen as cheaper vs the investment toward solar and wind both have their glareing disadvantages no sun and wind being quite obvious im not down playing the roles

My point is you will need plant life to fix the issues not only will it solve the warming

To resolve that you would need to cause rainfall or pump ocean water desalinate the ocean water which is quite expensive from what i hear

 

[Lightbringer]

My point is if you have enough to counteract even fossil fuels it would make a bigger difference plus you wouldnt need to say it was for combating global warming it would in effect reverse most of the damage it would be part of the solution maybe even slow the issue for even for hardliners against it to look at clean energy as a cheaper way for energy

Most of the back lash is because fossils fuels are seen as cheaper vs the investment toward solar and wind both have their glareing disadvantages no sun and wind being quite obvious im not down playing the roles

My point is you will need plant life to fix the issues not only will it solve the warming

To resolve that you would need to cause rainfall or pump ocean water desalinate the ocean water which is quite expensive from what i hear

Ok, and let's say that if what you are proposing were possible, then wouldn't you still want the energy source that helps achieve your goal and is less detrimental to the environment?


Let me just ask the basic questions.

Do you believe that Global Warming is real and is a real severe issue?

Are you in favor of switching from our current fossils fuels to renewable energy?



Because this is really the only thing that concerns me right now and is the basis of the argument.

 

[demon of the leaf]

Ok, and let's say that if what you are proposing were possible, then wouldn't you still want the energy source that helps achieve your goal and is less detrimental to the environment?


Let me just ask the basic questions.

Do you believe that Global Warming is real and is a real severe issue?

Are you in favor of switching from our current fossils fuels to renewable energy?



Because this is really the only thing that concerns me right now and is the basis of the argument.

I do believe it is an issue we have to face as of now it comes down to the average person and what they can afford a government no matter how benevolent will not pay to go clean and at the moment cleaner cars are being made

Solar panels to an average person are quite an investment and im afraid thats a possible unrelistic possibly of happening purhapse it will within 5 years or so im not a fortune teller so i could be wrong and the world goes green in a month ether way there is much you can do to solve it from planting grass or even a tree coal plants will be a thing of the past just not yet since we would be in a way hurting ourselves by not having the other stuff ready but it will get there i believe