Read the original post before commenting, if you don’t mind. Posts like this get nowhere.Weak enough that Hagoromo needed him to seal their mother Kaguya.
If someone claims to be a genius, am I not liable to hold him to such standards? If that's his claim then I expect genius level quality from him, that is the least I can do for him. It would be disrespectful to overlook the statement.
I dont recall naysaying your statement though, I agreed to your post on two occasions.
Op mentions both Hagoromo and Hamura, and discredits Hamura. Yahcob mentions Hamura sealing Kaguya, is that not a correct assessment?
I claim its a team effort (Hamura and Hagoromo), by including Hamura I am not only postulating him as an equal to his brother but as a necessary person in the sealing of Kaguya. Op's topic is "How weak is Hamura", by me stating he is on par with Hagoromo that is evident that I am not only challenging an open question but providing my take on the character.
Fair assessment. I can’t debate that.Hamura is not stronger or equal to Hagoromo and his hype is sure damn below latter but I put him in Spsm Naruto or Rinnegan Adult Sasuke level at the least. I am sure Kaguya never fought Naruto and Sasuke in her full strength and she was not stable with the Juubī.
They both have their advantages and disadvantages. In the anime, Hamura could at least attempt to prevent Kaguya from reading his mind but I don’t think Hagormo could do that with his Sharingan. But that’s the anime though. In terms of evolution though, the Rinnegan definitely helped lol.his byakugan made him weaker than sharingan user hagromo.................
Wunderbar. But if he doesn’t want to listen to you he can always reply to me and I’ll match his condescending tone without a fault.Welp.
There is nothing wrong with vouching for someone based on your personal experience however extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and that being so if you're going to claim to know his intentions and thought process for things he did not post/say then you'll have to prove that to be true and that is something you cannot do because you are not him. I'm not sure with what intent you stated the bold. As for the red, I haven't argued against any of that. Your superiority complex overpowering your logic and reason is what warranted my response.
I've read it. What are you basing your argument on. Anime or Manga?Read the original post before commenting, if you don’t mind. Posts like this get nowhere.
Well it depends on what you’re asking about specifically. In both the manga and anime, there’s no doubt that Hagoromo’s descendants (Uchiha and Senju) dominated the Feudal time period. The Hyuga (Hamura’s descendants) aren’t even mentioned as being that great unless the topic of discussion was the Byakugan.I've read it. What are you basing your argument on. Anime or Manga?
And he uses filler and throws tantrums when other opinions look to counter his. Agreed bro. More dark days are coming. :lolNew kid in the block starts showing his true color. I sense something not good will come in the future starting from here.
Your sig is epic.And he uses filler and throws tantrums when other opinions look to counter his. Agreed bro. More dark days are coming. :lol
You can blame the author for not talking about the Hamūra's side of the family. Trying to rectify that with this new series.Well it depends on what you’re asking about specifically. In both the manga and anime, there’s no doubt that Hagoromo’s descendants (Uchiha and Senju) dominated the Feudal time period. The Hyuga (Hamura’s descendants) aren’t even mentioned as being that great unless the topic of discussion was the Byakugan.
Now for the argument of Hamura’s power by himself, I’m using both the anime and manga to tie together plot holes.
Lmfao right. Another suspect person that uses his blinders to the contexts of posts. How blissful life must be to be able to read but choosing not to do so while simultaneously posting bait comment with such confidence. Yawn, if you want to contribute, then do so. Otherwise **** off. No point of you being here.And he uses filler and throws tantrums when other opinions look to counter his. Agreed bro. More dark days are coming. :lol
But why should we take Naruto: The last as canon? Sure Toneri is canon but the manga didn’t state that Hamura had the tenseigan. You know what I mean? This is where it gets iffy for me.You can blame the author for not talking about the Hamūra's side of the family. Trying to rectify that with this new series.
With that, the anime backstory on Kaguya and her family is filler, so should not be taking seriously or used for proof of something. What we know of the Manga -written by Kishimoto- and Naruto The Last Movie, Hamura had the Tenseigan which was equal to of not stronger then the Rinnegan. He had TSBs like his brother, chakra mode, flight and enhanced everything -as Rikudo senjutsu does to all it's users. Hagoromo also could not deal with Kaguya by his lonesome, and Hamura was also needed. All this shows is that 1. He is not weak, far from it. 2. There's more argument to be made in him being powerful. 3. Filler should never be used as a bases or proof.
Because Kishimoto came up with the story concept and character designs, had someone else write it, then revised the script and it was also officially dubbed chapter "699.5" An official movie databook was distributed alongside the movie as wellBut why should we take Naruto: The last as canon? Sure Toneri is canon but the manga didn’t state that Hamura had the tenseigan. You know what I mean? This is where it gets iffy for me.
Manga did state he was the hyuga ancestor through depictions. Hagoromo has all of the Dojūtsū of his descended clans. Likewise , theoretically speaking , what's in between the argument in saying "Hamura has the Tenseīgan" when the Hyuga + several other ancestors descended from him? It's called Reverse Logic. If there is smoke , there is fire and vice - versa.But why should we take Naruto: The last as canon? Sure Toneri is canon but the manga didn’t state that Hamura had the tenseigan. You know what I mean? This is where it gets iffy for me.
Edit: And let me correct myself, Toneri actually isn’t canon because he isn’t in the manga. He’s only in the anime of Boruto. So the last movie shouldn’t be canon at all, right?
Ahh I see, even though its a sketchy argument at best. There’s no definite sign of any of the characters in the manga unlike Momoshiki, Kinshiki and Shin Uchiha. But that’s an argument I really can’t debate, especially if it’s been coined 699.5. Thanks, dude.Because Kishimoto came up with the story concept and character designs, had someone else write it, then revised the script and it was also officially dubbed chapter "699.5" An official movie databook was distributed alongside the movie as well
Refer to post #76. Toneri is a canon character.But why should we take Naruto: The last as canon? Sure Toneri is canon but the manga didn’t state that Hamura had the tenseigan. You know what I mean? This is where it gets iffy for me.
Edit: And let me correct myself, Toneri actually isn’t canon because he isn’t in the manga. He’s only in the anime of Boruto. So the last movie shouldn’t be canon at all, right?
That’s a fair point, I’ll give you that. ThanksManga did state he was the hyuga ancestor through depictions. Hagoromo has all of the Dojūtsū of his descended clans. Likewise , theoretically speaking , what's in between the argument in saying "Hamura has the Tenseīgan" when the Hyuga + several other ancestors descended from him? It's called Reverse Logic. If there is smoke , there is fire and vice - versa.