How was the original Juubi defeated?

[valandil988]

Now would be a good time for Kurama to share all he knows about how the SO6P originally defeated the Juubi if the Sage shared that with them. Was it trickery? Or uber haxed Sealing techs like space-time ninjutsu maybe? We know he probably was a Sage so maybe some info on that. Considering its the Juubi they are facing Kurama (Other than the Hachibi the only one that might know anything about it) seems to know jack all about it, sure he knows somethings but its not like he's saying, "Ok heres the plan grandpa Rikudo did yada yada yada last time lets try that!" ??

So far they are not being very smart about this, what the heck is throwing a bijudama at it going to do, even at point blank range? They are just attacking with no idea how to defeat it, all the while wasting energy. Even if it hits and without being repelled by what might be Rinnegan techs from a Bijuu it won't hurt any of the antagonists, the juubi will just take it and keep coming likely with no damage, Madara can just take it like a boss as an Edo Tensei and at most all it will do is make Tobi flee to Kamui for a few moments. In other words totally doomed to failure.

From what we can tell so far, SO6P did not have the Rinnegan or the extremely powerful body before he became the Juubi's host. I suppose it likely that the body he had to begin with, but not the dojutsu. How these traits were past onto descendants is beyond me though. Is it like Naruto's whisker markings or something as those are supposed to be a sign of Kurama's influence. Though why they would be split between descendants makes zero sense...

Tbh it sounds like the Sage managed to do the impossible without any help from unique abilities, the ultimate underdog. Hence he must have had some way to outwit the Juubi, not out power it, how can you defeat the essence of chakra itself with chakra?? No the sage must have know something about the Juubi that gave him an edge like no other.

Another thing I noticed, is that the Sage seemed to know all the Bijuu very well like he had been with them the majority of his life, and they knew him, so its not like he created them at the end of his life, he must have sealed the Juubi in the moon early on and split the chakra at the same time when he was younger. He had already anticipated what would happen when he sealed the juubi.

 

[Legendary Broly]

Yes exactly. Naruto and that do not appear to have a plan. It seems they intend to over power the Juubi which would be impossible. They cannot really out smart it atm because Madara and Obito are watching on. I believe that the dimension will be the key to the Juubi's defeat. Perhaps it is placed in there and trapped forever. That or somehow Naruto will persuade the tailed beasts to remember him and they all separate becoming happy family :|

 

[Ciao]

The SO6P read him Twilight.

 

[Darth Vader]

Yes exactly. Naruto and that do not appear to have a plan. It seems they intend to over power the Juubi which would be impossible. They cannot really out smart it atm because Madara and Obito are watching on. I believe that the dimension will be the key to the Juubi's defeat. Perhaps it is placed in there and trapped forever. That or somehow Naruto will persuade the tailed beasts to remember him and they all separate becoming happy family :|

If they sent the whole thing to the other dimension where it would stay forever, Obito could just go get it... right?

 

[naruto1246]

it was beaten by a sealing jutsu

though i say the sage roughed it up a little before sealing it

and who siad the sage didnt have the rinnigan before he sealed the juubi in himself

and he mightve made the bijuu around the same time he got the girl who gave birth to his sons pregnant

 

['Nāpalm]

The Sage of the Six Paths Soloed it....

 

[XxOUTZxX]

i dont think kuruma really knows.....i mean....so6p sealed the juubi and then split up his chakara creating the tailed beasts...so technically they didnt exist to see the how the juubi was deafeated

 

[valandil988]

it was beaten by a sealing jutsu

though i say the sage roughed it up a little before sealing it

and who siad the sage didnt have the rinnigan before he sealed the juubi in himself

and he mightve made the bijuu around the same time he got the girl who gave birth to his sons pregnant

Isnt it abit convenient that the Dojutsu of the Juubi consists of a sharingan Rinnegan design? No I'm pretty sure the sage gained the Rinnegan from the Juubi, perhaps not the body but definitely the Rinnegan. Remember how Kurama described the Juubi? A god on earth, and gods are usually able to make fantasy reality, hence where the "Creation of All things" Jutsu comes from. The realm of resurrecting the dead, shaping gravity? Need I say more, the Rinnegan is like a world creation kit.

 

[SasukeGrowUp]

Sage of Six Paths told him to get on his knees.

Furious, the Juubi.. got on his knees.

 

[valandil988]

i dont think kuruma really knows.....i mean....so6p sealed the juubi and then split up his chakara creating the tailed beasts...so technically they didnt exist to see the how the juubi was deafeated

From what Kurama has said it seems like the Bijuu shared an almost familial relationship with the Sage so its not unlikely that he would share with them stories of how the big bad Juubi got defeated by him.

 

[Tsujan9484]

troll no jutsu :|

 

[minatofan234]

lol wow....... the SO6P was born with the rinnegan and a powerfull body, and he defeated the juubi by him self, its like pokemon you have to beat up the pokemon a little before you can capture it right? thats what he did he beat it up a little then sealed it inside him self thats how strong he was not to metion he had his sage weapons, then when he was on his death bed he created the moon and sealed the juubi's body inside it and divided its chakra to 9 seprate beings he named them all and spend some time with them and chose his succesor, and then the story continued to were we are now

 

[nibilbhai]

Good prediction

 

[valandil988]

lol wow....... the SO6P was born with the rinnegan and a powerfull body, and he defeated the juubi by him self, its like pokemon you have to beat up the pokemon a little before you can capture it right? thats what he did he beat it up a little then sealed it inside him self thats how strong he was not to metion he had his sage weapons, then when he was on his death bed he created the moon and sealed the juubi's body inside it and divided its chakra to 9 seprate beings he named them all and spend some time with them and chose his succesor, and then the story continued to were we are now

So the Sage just had the Rinnegan? So why does the Juubi have that eye? Coincidence? We both know there are no Coincidences. And you can't "beat up" the Juubi its the manifestation of unlimited natural chakra, which I can only assume continuously replenishes, so it never tires or remains harmed for any length of time, so the damage you do doesnt stick....at all. Ie a nearly impossible enemy to defeat, even for someone with the Rinnegan, no you need some sort of edge intelligence, instead of the simplistic view of the Sage just deciding one day "Oh I'll just stop the Juubi should be simple after all with all my inborn talents"

Tbh I doubt the Juubi can even die like normal Bijuu.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Now would be a good time for Kurama to share all he knows about how the SO6P originally defeated the Juubi if the Sage shared that with them. Was it trickery? Or uber haxed Sealing techs like space-time ninjutsu maybe? We know he probably was a Sage so maybe some info on that. Considering its the Juubi they are facing Kurama (Other than the Hachibi the only one that might know anything about it) seems to know jack all about it, sure he knows somethings but its not like he's saying, "Ok heres the plan grandpa Rikudo did yada yada yada last time lets try that!" ??

So far they are not being very smart about this, what the heck is throwing a bijudama at it going to do, even at point blank range? They are just attacking with no idea how to defeat it, all the while wasting energy. Even if it hits and without being repelled by what might be Rinnegan techs from a Bijuu it won't hurt any of the antagonists, the juubi will just take it and keep coming likely with no damage, Madara can just take it like a boss as an Edo Tensei and at most all it will do is make Tobi flee to Kamui for a few moments. In other words totally doomed to failure.

From what we can tell so far, SO6P did not have the Rinnegan or the extremely powerful body before he became the Juubi's host. I suppose it likely that the body he had to begin with, but not the dojutsu. How these traits were past onto descendants is beyond me though. Is it like Naruto's whisker markings or something as those are supposed to be a sign of Kurama's influence. Though why they would be split between descendants makes zero sense...

Tbh it sounds like the Sage managed to do the impossible without any help from unique abilities, the ultimate underdog. Hence he must have had some way to outwit the Juubi, not out power it, how can you defeat the essence of chakra itself with chakra?? No the sage must have know something about the Juubi that gave him an edge like no other.

Another thing I noticed, is that the Sage seemed to know all the Bijuu very well like he had been with them the majority of his life, and they knew him, so its not like he created them at the end of his life, he must have sealed the Juubi in the moon early on and split the chakra at the same time when he was younger. He had already anticipated what would happen when he sealed the juubi.

1. Karuma didn't exist until AFTER the Sage beat the Juubi. How in the hell would he know how to beat the Juubi??? How in the hell would he know how the Sage beat him, unless the Sage described the fight to ALL the bijuu? If this is the case, either the 8 tails or 9 tails would have spoken up by now.

2. The Juubi was NEVER killed. The Sage simply SEALED it inside himself, while it was still very much alive.

 

[dirklyn]

Kurama knows nothing... And its very dump

 

[dirklyn]

Kurama was created later

 

[l Sasuke Uchiha l]

In order to defeat the Juubi they will need the full power of the Sage. In other words they need Sasuke! Well that is what I think and hope, and it kinda makes sense too... :3

 

[valandil988]

In order to defeat the Juubi they will need the full power of the Sage. In other words they need Sasuke! Well that is what I think and hope, and it kinda makes sense too... :3

A full power Sage? Sasuke? How the heck does that make sense, please don't make statements without either the logic or the evidence to back them up. Otherwise its just confusing. In what way is he a Sage at all? He cannot use Senjutsu nor has he ever expressed any interest or fore knowledge pertaining to the subject. Even if he unlocked the Rinnegan it does not grant the instant ability to wield Senjutsu from our current knowledge of the dojutsu, though that could be Nagato's incomplete mastery of the technique.

Kurama was created later

Do people even read what I posted, if you disagree then give me a reasoning as to why? Even if Kurama was created later the Sage would tell all the Bijuu of their origins and maybe even tell them stories about it, they are literally his children in a way perhaps even closer than regular children like the two brothers as the sage had a direct hand in their creation.

 

[apple pie of doom]

True, sage of six paths was born WITHOUT the rinnegan.
Such a thing should be obvious to most anyone with half a working brain ( but then again, people on this forum never cease to downgrade stupidity to another level ).
But besides that, I doubt he would have told how he beat the juubi, since he did predict they would be ''one'' again. He did not tell them they had to be sealed again for as far as I read.
Perhaps the coming of the juubi is'nt a bad thing at all.