how vote fight would go if naruto didnt had plot armor and sasuke didnt had restrict?

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Without plot shield holding Naruto back? He would end it without feeling sorry for him.

I agree that plot was strong in Sasuke's favor.
Naruto was fighting for days, didn't get food for days, didn't sleep for days, and was constantly on foot.
Then the fact that whenever Naruto faced Sasuke he had a huge fight before he had his fight with Sasuke.
Naruto mid diffs Mastered Rinnegan Sasuke.

Naruto should win mid difficulty no problem. Anyone feels like debating I'm here

Naruto goes on the offensive and rapes Sasuke before he takes in Bijuu..

What you don't realize is that you put strain on your mind and body when you're on your toes all the time. He as fighting for a day or two. He was training with Bee previous to that, losing his chakra to Kurama. But again most of the shit you said here is irrelevant.

Perfect Susano'o blade? If Naruto is in KA then he tanks it.

I don't really know how Amen Blitz is going to help Sasuke when he can't even damage RSM. Not to mention Genjutsu won't work either considering Naruto's feats with his sensing prowess.


Incorrect. Kurama himself stated that he was low on chakra, even after the stalemate itself. Naruto absorbed chakra? Kurama gathered NE, there is a big difference. Learn that difference please.

The only reason why Sasuke did not absorb more Bijuu chakra is because he gathered their chakra and began to charge Indra Arrow. How do you expect him to do both? After their stalemate Sasuke was done.


Someone needs to read the scan again, Sasuke did not place all the Tailed Beast under his Genjutsu through mind control. He paralyzed them. There is a arguable difference here, and not much needed to be said. There is no way for Sasuke to break into a Perfect Jinchuriki's mind and place each TB in his control, especially since Sasuke has no mind controlling feats of that level.

None of those Moves could beat Naruto, hence why Mashi had Naruto only block Sasuke and go on the defensive.

Naruto med diffs. People ignore that just as VOTE1 sasuke was the one going for the kill, while naruto just wanted to bring him back.

You wrote the title wrong, its if Naruto wasn't restricted and if Sasuke didn't have plot armor, even a toddler can see that Sasuke's plot armor and Naruto's restrictions is what kept Sasuke alive...otherwise the battle would be way too short in Naruto's favour.

But anyways, after Naruto is done kicking the crap outta Sasuke, Sasuke cries about how useless and weak he has been, and how he was a butthurt emo. Naruto then ends it and gets rid of that immature emo kid.

The weakling (Sasuke) dies and the badass (Naruto) lives. :cool:

without plot? lel godruto murder stomp.
that last battle at vote we can see that godruto is holding back not to bash saskeys thick skull to paste.

Lol. Naruto would mid diff him.

No Plot Shield? Naruto Low-Mid Diffs​

Amen blitz w/ Sasuke lightning style enhanced sword 1 shots

Chibaku Tensei sealing

Rinnegan Ninjutsu absorbing

Rinnegan Gravity Control

Perfect Susanoo Bijuu chakra Indra arrow 1 shots w/o Naruto plot shield

Rinnegan Genjutsu strong enough to control all Bijuu ends Naruto
 
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Amen blitz w/ Sasuke lightning style enhanced sword 1 shots

Chibaku Tensei sealing

Rinnegan Ninjutsu absorbing

Rinnegan Gravity Control

Perfect Susanoo Bijuu chakra Indra arrow 1 shots w/o Naruto plot shield

Rinnegan Genjutsu strong enough to control all Bijuu ends Naruto
Chidori, Sasuke's strongest lightning variant aside from Kirin, Naruto tanked. So there goes your Amen blitz.
Without fireball setup, Naruto dodges.

CT is not working if Sasuke cannot paraylze Naruto with Rinnegan Genjutsu, unless he decides to use core CT. Then Naruto can just destroy those with the Itachi method

PP has a limit, unless you can show me scans of Preta Path absorbing one large scale jutsu at once

I doubt ST/BT are going to work on Naruto who has unrivaled strength, chakra arms, and tailed beast shockwave which can reflect it back. Kn6 Kyuubi Naruto for reverence

Sasuke with or without Bijuu can't even beat Half Kurama Naruto /w Ashura Avatar + Natural Energy. So there goes your post

You mean the Rinnegan Genjutsu which paralyzed the Tailed Beast? Sasuke could not even control them, hence why Kyuubi could still talk. He had to trap them in a CT just so that he could toy with their chakra. Plus, Sasuke has no Genjutsu feats of being able to sneak inside of a PERFECT Jichuriki's mind and use the Genjutsu there. Mind you that Naruto's subconscious level is nothing near what a PJ has.
 

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You mean the Rinnegan Genjutsu which paralyzed the Tailed Beast? Sasuke could not even control them, hence why Kyuubi could still talk

Lol, what?

OT: If Sasuke has the Bijuu, which he does at VoTE, it's a tie like it was in the Manga. Not sure why everyone has jumped to the conclusion that Sasuke lacks the Bijuu and saying nonsense like Naruto wins with ease.
 

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Anybody who says Sasuke can absorb Naruto's ninjutsu.

1. Preta has never absorbed Large scale ninjutsu before

The biggest thing we've seen it take was Jiraiyas Cho odama rasengan. Saying it can absorb Naruto's ninjutsu when he has Some of the biggest scale techs in the manga like Cho Odama Fuuton Rasenshuriken, Tailed Beast bomb, Tailed beast bomb Rasenshuriken etc is just fantasy.

2. Absorbing Naruto's ninjutsu with Preta Path still poses as a threat to Sasuke himself, as he's not a sage.

Repeatedly absorbing Naruto's senjutsu enhanced ninjutsu techniques would Petrify him solid Leaving him unable to continue fighting, and could be swiftly destroyed with a frog kata.

The rinnegan technique actually absorbs chakra. And because ninjutsu is made up of chakra. The tech also absorbs that.

Sasuke absorbed a shit ton of chakra from all 9 bijuu simultaneously. And you think he can't tank any technique naruto throws at him? The problem was plot. And maybe the fact that as he absorbed the techniques, naruto could attack him.

Second. Sage chakra is not a problem. I don't know if you've been reading the same manga but sasuke already knows how to control sage chakra. He just doesm't know how to absorb it directly from nature.
 

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The rinnegan technique actually absorbs chakra. And because ninjutsu is made up of chakra. The tech also absorbs that.
I know Sasuke got Preta Path at the end of VOTE 2 guy. What good will that do for him when Naruto at Sasuke

There's also the fact that there are Zero feats of Preta Path absorbing ninjutsu techniques greater than Cho odama rasengan, & Rasenshuriken. So he can't do that anyways , he'd be forced to tank or dodge.

Sasuke absorbed a shit ton of chakra from all 9 bijuu simultaneously. And you think he can't tank any technique naruto throws at him? The problem was plot. And maybe the fact that as he absorbed the techniques, naruto could attack him.
What the hell does absorbing chakra from bijuus have anything to do with tanking?

Sasukes PS still has inferior long range capability. Sasukes PS only has PS Sword & PS Chidori, while Naruto can make 3 Clones with Kurama avatars, swinging their tails, shooting bijuu damas, doing Rasengans.

Or absorb a Shit load of NE like in canon and nuke him with the Ashura Kurama avatar using TBBRS & COFRS.

Second. Sage chakra is not a problem. I don't know if you've been reading the same manga but sasuke already knows how to control sage chakra. He just doesm't know how to absorb it directly from nature.
He's not a sage though and we already knows what happens to people who absorb too much
And Sasuke isn't a sage. All the times he's used senjutsu it was done for him. Ie, Curse mark, juugo, yin seal etc. If Naruto gave him raw NE, then he'd have to know how to balance it was his chakra which is training he never received. So he'd turn to stone plain and simple.
 

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I know Sasuke got Preta Path at the end of VOTE 2 guy. What good will that do for him when Naruto at Sasuke
I have a question about this. Would Sasuke turn into stone? He has 50% of Rikudou's chakra after all so I don't see why he can't absorb it.
 

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Sasuke wouldn't have kill him or Sakura probably would've pulled a Rin to save Naruto, causing sasuke to go into shock and flee

I have a question about this. Would Sasuke turn into stone? He has 50% of Rikudou's chakra after all so I don't see why he can't absorb it.

Jugo proves he wouldn't
 

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I have a question about this. Would Sasuke turn into stone? He has 50% of Rikudou's chakra after all so I don't see why he can't absorb it.
Half of Hagoromo's power & Rikudou's chakra still has nothing to do with being to balance any

Jugo proves he wouldn't
Juugo gave him the finished product, senjutsu chakra, he didn't give him Raw natural energy which is a reagent required to create senjutsu.

That's why when you see vs threads with EMS Sasuke & Juugo they say "Sasuke with Juugo's Senjutsu". Because Juugo's clan's natural ability is constantly absorbing Natural energy & converting it to sage chakra.

Sasuke has no experience making sage chakra himself.

Edit: Incase you guys still don't get it (no offense) consider this. Sasuke=Madara=Indra

Madara gained Sage chakra the first time Note Hashirama was in sage mode thus, Madara got his sage mode markings, the benefits of sm, and the already mixed senjutsu chakra

Madara later got the
Which you canonically can only get by, being Juubi jin, or being the jin of all nine bijuu's + receiving half of hagoromo's power.

Madara still could never create sage chakra by himself, nor without the juubi, & Sasuke hasn't made sage chakra himself without the curse seal, juugo giving him some, and the yin seal which made his chidori black.
 
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I dont understand these threads. With no plot restrictions Naruto stomps. Sasuke was the one with plot armor having all biju chakra to access. If the fight is reset and no bijus are present he gets destroyed by Naruto who has killing intent.
 

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Half of Hagoromo's power & Rikudou's chakra still has nothing to do with being to balance any
Yes but I'm saying he has 50% of the sages Chakra which would help him absorb the natural energy. Sasuke has already proved he can use natural energy from using cursed mark level 2 and juugo's Chakra to boost his susanoo.
 

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Yes but I'm saying he has 50% of the sages Chakra which would help him absorb the natural energy. Sasuke has already proved he can use natural energy from using cursed mark level 2 and juugo's Chakra to boost his susanoo.

He is not trained as a sage. Having a curse mark =/= being a sage. He could not gather or balance natural energy on his own to which there are requirements. The rikudous chakra is not a form of senjutsu it is merely extremely powerful chakra. The dangers of being petrified still exist for him as with all non senjutsu users.
 
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