How the Hyuuga actually stack up against Uchiha?

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Sasuke wasn't at that big a disadvantage, he could fly and raiton countered is bombs.
He was. Deidara was a long-range fighter that gave him the advantage, Sasuke's Raiton was shown only to be able to diffuse smaller bombs, and Deidara had assistance which enabled him to box Sasuke in.
 

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Anyone with decent skills who unlocks 1t or 2t pretty much goes on to become an elite ninja when compared to other clans. By other clan standards they considered them to be pretty powerful so their skills shouldn't be underestimated.
yeah like i said the only feats by the uchiha are pretty much the old generation of uchiha which i believe to be way stronger than the current one sasuke was born to after all the past uchiha were in wartime's send to kill as kids and were force to be stronger or die by enemy hands but yeah i agree they are strong but not that strong but yeah they were the strongest clan but not by that much in my opinion
 

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He was. Deidara was a long-range fighter that gave him the advantage, Sasuke's Raiton was shown only to be able to diffuse smaller bombs, and Deidara had assistance which enabled him to box Sasuke in.
Long range fighter
-Sasuke can fly

Bombs
-Raiton

C4
-Raiton


Also raiton diffuses all bombs. Deidara was about to repeat that shit he did against Sasuke on Kishū Butai but omoi stuck his raiton sword in him and countered it.*

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As I've said before, I know that every single relevant Uchiha > every single relevant Hyuga. However, I still believe the Hyuga's arsenal acts as a natural counter to the Uchiha's arsenal.

I think the best way to describe this would be to use Pokemon as an analogy.

Water type (Hyuga) beats fire type (Uchiha), we all know that. But if the Fire type is of a higher level enough than than the water type, it'll win. However, if they are on equal level, than almost certainly the water type will win.
 

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This thread is pretty much copy pasta from my more successful thread of the month I posted here years ago about the Uchiha vs Hyuuga.
 

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As I've said before, I know that every single relevant Uchiha > every single relevant Hyuga. However, I still believe the Hyuga's arsenal acts as a natural counter to the Uchiha's arsenal.

I think the best way to describe this would be to use Pokemon as an analogy.

Water type (Hyuga) beats fire type (Uchiha), we all know that. But if the Fire type is of a higher level enough than than the water type, it'll win. However, if they are on equal level, than almost certainly the water type will win.

Hyuuga techs don't rival Uchiha. Not even remotely.

This thread is pretty much copy pasta from my more successful thread of the month I posted here years ago about the Uchiha vs Hyuuga.
Copy/pasta?
Your thread is the exact opposite of mine.
read through it and a lot of your points were reaching. It doesn't address anything written in my thread and you used rare Hyuuga techs to make Byakugan look better than the base sharingan.
 

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Long range fighter
-Sasuke can fly
That's irrelevant when Sasuke has to get in close to attack Deidara whereas Deidara can keep a safe distance away from Sasuke and still battle aggressively.

Bombs
-Raiton

C4
-Raiton
Elemental Advantage doesn't imply he can diffuse all of his bombs because both user's skill comes into play. The only thing that was shown was Sasuke's ability to counter Deidara's smaller bombs with Raiton.

Sasuke's Raiton did prove to be effective against C4, but if he were engulfed by the entire bomb, then he obviously would've died.

Also raiton diffuses all bombs. Deidara was about to repeat that shit he did against Sasuke on Kishū Butai but omoi stuck his raiton sword in him and countered it.*
Raiton has the overall advantage over Doton, but that's dependent on both of the user's skill. Even then, considering most of Sasuke's Raiton techniques are mid-range with the highest range being only 5m, it leaves him susceptible to Deidara's bombs which he can detonate at any given moment with just a seal. Doesn't matter if Sasuke can diffuse it when Deidara can simply release all of that chakra before Sasuke's Raiton makes contact with Deidara's bomb.

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He was just beginning the process of kneading chakra for the attack, so the likelihood of him only having a very minimal amount of chakra built up is pretty high.
 

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That's irrelevant when Sasuke has to get in close to attack Deidara whereas Deidara can keep a safe distance away from Sasuke and still battle aggressively.



Elemental Advantage doesn't imply he can diffuse all of his bombs because both user's skill comes into play. The only thing that was shown was Sasuke's ability to counter Deidara's smaller bombs with Raiton.

Sasuke's Raiton did prove to be effective against C4, but if he were engulfed by the entire bomb, then he obviously would've died.



Raiton has the overall advantage over Doton, but that's dependent on both of the user's skill. Even then, considering most of Sasuke's Raiton techniques are mid-range with the highest range being only 5m, it leaves him susceptible to Deidara's bombs which he can detonate at any given moment with just a seal. Doesn't matter if Sasuke can diffuse it when Deidara can simply release all of that chakra before Sasuke's Raiton makes contact with Deidara's bomb.



He was just beginning the process of kneading chakra for the attack, so the likelihood of him only having a very minimal amount of chakra built up is pretty high.
-Sasuke countered his range with flight and ninja tools.

-Sasuke's speed is also a greater.

-Sasuke countered his bombs with sharingan and Raiton.

-Of course, Raiton cant counter the bomb if it already went off



Sasuke wasn't at a disadvantage as much as Neji was against kidomaru
 
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Long range fighter
-Sasuke can fly

Bombs
-Raiton

C4
-Raiton


Also raiton diffuses all bombs. Deidara was about to repeat that shit he did against Sasuke on Kishū Butai but omoi stuck his raiton sword in him and countered it.*

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Wasn't it said the SA started sharing information to one another in order to stop the Edo Tensei?
 

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Every uchiha has been showed with some kind of kenjutsu arsenal especially at times of war. It was shown in the manga.
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The kid in the above scan is cooked ^.
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Anyone with decent skills who unlocks 1t or 2t pretty much goes on to become an elite ninja when compared to other clans. By other clan standards they considered them to be pretty powerful so their skills shouldn't be underestimated.



Everything you said here is wrong.




I honestly don't think there were many Hyuuga that can rival the elite of the Uchiha. They were considered the strongest for a reason. I do agree with you on some points like the zetsu changing their chakra signature and such however that zetsu wasn't impersonating anyone when he attacked Neji. Neji can see in all directions but it doesn't influence his body in anyway to dodge an incoming attack. Also a Byakugan would have to be well trained to reach Nejis level.

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Proof even the greatest Byakugan doesn't have 3 tomoe precog.
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You see above the only thing the Byakugan will excel over a Uchiha is analyzing the opponents chakra system and seeing what they are going to do next.


However if there body isn't use to training they can't react. The byakugan has no high level tracking speed whatsoever.
First that pages you posted just your reasoning not the facts.....Secondly I think that high level perception is a 3t thing not just in 1t or 2t And a, fact remember Danzo had all 3t on his arm, He was said to have acquired them after killing countless Uchihas, probably the whole clan so that might just indicate that even the 3t was a rarity. And the nail in the coffin would be this..I would still say that Uchiha's attitude and the general mindset of people that was formed against them caused all the hype...Yes they are powerful but when you atart fearing something don't you automatically make it too OP...i think that was also a case
 

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I'm still waiting for you to post something that has some factual evidence behind it.




I agree. I love how when a Hyuuga does something it is because they are absolutely amazing, but when Uchiha feats/hype are brought up they blame it on plot relevancy.


. here is 2t sasuke fighting cloak you can see 2t can't kept up


But neji was able to with ease




But 3t can keep with naruto
 

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. here is 2t sasuke fighting cloak you can see 2t can't kept up


But neji was able to with ease




But 3t can keep with naruto
Wow, you have good eyes!
 

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The Uchiha's are obviously hyped, Sasuke especially if all excess power up are removed he will be same level with the 5 kages. Welcome to the mortal world ✌... At any given generation different Clans produces out standing shinobi's e.g Sarutobi, Danzo, Minato Raikage's, Hatake Sakumo. Which probably at the time no Uchiha can rival. The Uchiha's where best on an average scale compare to other Clans, if they were as powerful as hyped no most Clans would be extinct bcos of rivalries during the war times. For fans to write of the hyuuga of all it's just Ridiculous.

I think Kishi senpai made the show a little unbalanced at the end, that wasn't his finest moments.
 

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. here is 2t sasuke fighting cloak you can see 2t can't kept up


But neji was able to with ease




But 3t can keep with naruto
You kidding me when did Naruto summon this much kyuubi chakra in base form against genin neji? Lmao...

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You reaching hardd....
 
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