How the Hyuuga actually stack up against Uchiha?

[Dantee]

Here's where your post lost credibility my friend. Even in the manga Hinata was NEVER considered Elite. She was passed up for her little sister by her father as future clan leader because she didn't have what it takes. But I am not disagreeing with the rest

Hinata was heir to the clan so she was considered an elite throughout the main branch and the clan. I havent seen the last so if you want to enlighten me you can, but everything in this thread is still manga facts.

In terms of overall clan strength, Part 1 Neji being like 2nd strongest in the strongest clan on the leaf means Hiashi himself is carrying the bulk of the clan.

You cannot tell me that the strongest clan in the leaf has Part 1 Neji as it's No.2, That makes zero sense.

So either Neji in part 1 is an actual power house compared to most singular shinobi in the leaf, or Hiashi is so strong most of the strength of the strongest clan is on his back alone, Again would make him one of the strongest leaf shinobi since he alone is enough to carry a clan with part 1 Neji as the clans No.2



It's not hate, It's the truth. Sasuke's current strength isn't solely down to his Genes/Genius. Same goes for Naruto too

Also Yes Hebi does have better feats but that's because he was actually developed and skills were shown in the first place, Neither Neji's jutsu strength was explored nor developed much and Hiashi was outright ignored until the war arc where again he got minimal screen time.



If your trying gauge a clans strength, adding factors such as Hagoromo's gifts to sasuke which have nothing to do with the uchiha clan, It's like trying to gauge an average uzumaki strength by Naruto's strength while using the kyuubi or the Sages chakra.

Never said he was the 2nd strongest even althoughby feats he sure as hell was. Unless you can name me a stronger Hyuuga?

It's backed by the manga so this argument won't go anywhere unless you accept that. Also, I'm not saying p1 Neji couldn't be defeated by other members of the clan, but it would only be because they have more experience than Neji and not actual skill or ability. Usually the strongest members of the clan do stand out and make their power more reputable. Just look at Hashirama for reference.


I also don't see the problem using Sasuke to gauge the clans strength when Sasuke was actually the last legit member of the clan. EMS Sasuke can also be considered a demi god. Just look at how feared Madara was with EMS. Are you going to say as a EMS user and Indra reincarnate MAdara can't be considered as well when he was the leader?

Hago gifts can be left out the equation I suppose.

you can add this as well.

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and thats long after the clan had been wiped out

Dope stuff man.

I think Hyuuga were supposed to be alot more to the story early on then changed his mind when sasuke got so popular.

Early on in the manga Hyugga were the original royal clan of the leaf. Like the one scene where the Hokage makes the whole village go to some kind of meeting and Hiashi tells him to **** off because its Hinatas birthday and the whole clan skipped. The "curse of hatred" was originally Nejis story not Sasuke. The sharingan was originally the successor of the byakugan before the rinnegan and sage of six path ever existed. The Byakugan had better "foresight" than the sharingan.

I think if Neji got more popular the Hyuuga would've been alot stronger in the series.

After part 1 I thought the K11 would have more screen time in part 2. Kishi treated them all nicely in that Sasuke retrieval and chunin exam arc, I was hoping they would get expanded on. Especially neji I thought he would contend with the best but I suppose Kishi only cared about his mains.

 

[Char Aznable]

Facts Kishi seemingly forgot about.

Sharingan is rare

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The Mangekyou Sharingan is rare for people who have the sharingan.

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Susanno is rare for people with Mangekyou.

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Being an Uchiha was not a guarantee that you would be a badass that no one could f*ck with.

With has much as Kishi wanked them through Tobidara's hype of the Uchiha being the end all be all of ninja clans.

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The Uchiha as a whole were not as OP as Kishi made Sasuke, Itachi, Madara, and Obito.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Hyuuga sure is not on par with Uchiha especially the MS Uchiha but average three tomoes uchiha still can be beaten by most of Hyuuga. Considering to awaken the MS is rare among Uchiha thats mean Hyuuga can be still above them in large battle between only Three Tomoes Uchihas's army and Hyuuga's army with Byakugan and Hyuuga tech and fighting skills.

 

[BLAZE]

It amazes me how stupid you people are. XD

Not more than you

I was merely showing examples of hyuuga's capability with enough power/chakra backing them. Besides you people call hinata for using kurama cloak and kaguya out for her prowess yet y'all readily except sasuke and madara's numerous handouts/power ups(EMS,Hashi cells, curse mark,juubi, shinju,moon seal,etc

Someone tells this guy who lacks comprehension skill we are debating Hyuga VS Uchiha and he is using Kyuubi chakra and Ototsuki as an example to debate

and kaguya low diffed the uchiha's strongest technique perfect susanoo with byakugan and gentle fist, both of which are hyuuga oriented.

No its Kaguya's tech specific to Kaguya a Ototsuki

Regardless of what you people think Hinata repelled the juubi

Regardless of what you people think Hinata repelled the juubi

Regardless of what you people think Hinata repelled the juubi

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she pushed back a tail you clown and hiashi did it without chakra cloak

 

[King Of Pop]

It amazes me how stupid you people are. XD

I was merely showing examples of hyuuga's capability with enough power/chakra backing them. Besides you people call hinata for using kurama cloak and kaguya out for her prowess yet y'all readily except sasuke and madara's numerous handouts/power ups(EMS,Hashi cells, curse mark,juubi, shinju,moon seal,etc)?

Regardless of what you people think Hinata repelled the juubi and kaguya low diffed the uchiha's strongest technique perfect susanoo with byakugan and gentle fist, both of which are hyuuga oriented.

and give uchihas same power and chakra as kaguya and then what? or better still give itachi a kurama cloak and lets see whats up. anyone can shine if being boosted temporarily by external chakra. your stupid ass cant even realise the fact that by using those examples reveals the hyuuga inferioirity even more. stop reaching moron.

kaguya only got through because shes more powerful than sasuke, too bad hyuuga are too fodder to replicate abything of the sort so what you are saying is pointless in th end.

 

[Ambivalence]

Word on the Base is that the average Hyuuga is relatively stronger than the average Uchiha and that Average and elite Hyuugas >> Some elite Uchihas?

What the hell? :lol I've never seen that claim being made. You do realize the only people who say that are fanboys, right? We haven't even seen what an average Hyuuga can do, but I guess those guys assume they're as strong as Neji or something, when in fact they're probably Part 1 Hinata-level, a.k.a fodder.

 

[Michael]

Not more than you


Someone tells this guy who lacks comprehension skill we are debating Hyuga VS Uchiha and he is Kyuubi chakra and using Ototsuki as an example to debate

No its Kaguya's tech specific to Kaguya a Ototsuki



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she pushed back a tail you clown and hiashi did it without chakra cloak

According to kishi, Hinata's jyuuken rocked the juubi. Even the great madara acknowledged her power with Naruto's chakra.

 

[Trúth]

This thread fails harder than sakura. I'm not even going to point all the flaws, simply the major one. You are comparing one of the main character clans with development from beginning to end to an irrelevant side clan with minimum development. ​

You should have picked something else then cuz that isn't a flaw. OP's point is that the Hyuuga don't stack up against the Uchiha. The fact that the Hyuuga clan was pathetic and irrelevant from beginning to end in comparison to the Uchiha doesn't undercut his point it only helps validate it.

Off topic, that text is extremely effective at making me not read more than the first few sentences of your posts.

I appreciate that.

 

[Dantee]

This thread fails harder than sakura. I'm not even going to point all the flaws, simply the major one. You are comparing one of the main character clans with development from beginning to end to an irrelevant side clan with minimum development.

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This thread is comparing Uchiha and the Hyuuga. Why would I leave out a Uchiha member who was a part of the original clan.

Also sasuke and madara should automatically be excluded due to Indra Otsutuki incarnation bs, their power/genius was destined. I can assure you had kishi developed hyuuga more their power would've easily outclassed the uchiha. The byakugan and gentle fist style wrecks the sharingan in its entirety.

No they shouldn't and you aren't Kishi. Madara was the clans leader and Sasuke was born in the clan. You are just butthurt.

Only one being with the byakugan was enough to prove the hyuuga's potential absolutely trumps the uchiha.

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Posting Kaguya who has the power of sharigan, the god tree, byakugan and rinnegan is proof of that butthurt. She's not even a Hyuuga so that makes this irrelevant.

Had kishi developed hyuuga more and everyone would've witnessed greatness. Imagine Hamura reincarnated into his clan members? Hyuuga would have access to tenseigan and members with huge chakra reserves. Kaguya was but a sample of the hyuuga capability with high chakra reserves.

Kaguya was not a sample. Hyuuga were not juubi jins.

Now in part 3 we actually have hyuuga members with high reserves/prodigous talen and also as main protagonist. Boruto and Himawari will showcase what the hyuuga are capable unerfed.

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Again Irrelevant. This post is like when Hinata wanted to protect Naruto kun and tripped on a rock.

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[Michael]

and give uchihas same power and chakra as kaguya and then what? or better still give itachi a kurama cloak and lets see whats up. anyone can shine if being boosted temporarily by external chakra. your stupid ass cant even realise the fact that by using those examples reveals the hyuuga inferioirity even more. stop reaching moron.

kaguya only got through because shes more powerful than sasuke, too bad hyuuga are too fodder to replicate abything of the sort so what you are saying is pointless in th end.

Madara already came to possess power close to kaguya's yet he was still low diffed by zetsu. Now let a hyuga become juubi jin, their power would be immensely haxxed.

 

[BLAZE]

What the hell? :lol I've never seen that claim being made. You do realize the only people who say that are fanboys, right? We haven't even seen what an average Hyuuga can do, but I guess those guys assume they're as strong as Neji or something, when in fact they're probably Part 1 Hinata-level, a.k.a fodder.

Hmmmmm pardon i don't come to NDS so i will bring year or two older threads

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[Ansatsuken]

According to kishi, Hinata's jyuuken rocked the juubi. Even the great madara acknowledged her power with Naruto's chakra.

In normal circumstances Uchiha still above Hinata. I dont think she can beat Uchiha easily in fighting skill seriously. Uchiha is war machine.

 

[lndra]

I think the Byakugan is stronger than the Sharingan when it's a 2 Tomoe, but after that it's hard to keep up. I would say Hiashi could beat a regular 3T Uchiha, no one like Madara or Itachi though.

 

[BLAZE]

Regardless of what kaguya is, the power she used to wreck sasuke's susanoo numerous times were byakugan and gentle fist both of which are hyuuga based. Stay salty

So Uchiha gets Kaguya's Infinite Tsukuyomi[genjutsu's],Dimension travelling[Kamui] and Kimimaro gets Ash bone

 

[Ambivalence]

Hmmmmm pardon i don't come to NDS so i will bring year or two older threads

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Nothing in those threads has anything on average Hyuuga being stronger than average Uchiha, plus one of them is made by a famous Hyuuga retard posing as a girl, so...

 

[Dantee]

This is a wonderfull thread made by you -Dante

It should be of no debate. On who is stronger and better in abilities, intellect and versiality.

Thannk you^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Regardless of what kaguya is, the power she used to wreck sasuke's susanoo numerous times were byakugan and gentle fist both of which are hyuuga based. Stay salty

I dont get salty over fanfic and stupidity. I laugh at it hysterically. Thanks for the laugh Micheal.

What the hell? :lol I've never seen that claim being made. You do realize the only people who say that are fanboys, right? We haven't even seen what an average Hyuuga can do, but I guess those guys assume they're as strong as Neji or something, when in fact they're probably Part 1 Hinata-level, a.k.a fodder.

Exactly Hyuuga fanboys who praise the Hyuuga to unbelievable heights don't even realize most were actually weaker than Hinata.

 

[Exaar]

Never said he was the 2nd strongest even althoughby feats he sure as hell was. Unless you can name me a stronger Hyuuga?

You know i can't so it's pointless to ask.

It's like asking for proof that the average uchiha can use izanagi, Kenjutsu or even uchiha Kinjutsu.

What the hell? :lol I've never seen that claim being made. You do realize the only people who say that are fanboys, right? We haven't even seen what an average Hyuuga can do, but I guess those guys assume they're as strong as Neji or something, when in fact they're probably Part 1 Hinata-level, a.k.a fodder.

We haven't seen what the average uchiha can do outside of speculation.

I myself do believe an average uchiha can indeed lose to an average Hyuga but that by no means i think Hyuga > uchiha. The uchiha might have the advantage but thats beyond the point.

Nothing in those threads has anything on average Hyuuga being stronger than average Uchiha, plus one of them is made by a famous Hyuuga retard posing as a girl, so...

Yeah because it's not like this thread has been made by a known sasuke/uchiha fanboy

 

[BLAZE]

Nothing in those threads has anything on average Hyuuga being stronger than average Uchiha, plus one of them is made by a famous Hyuuga retard posing as a girl, so...

Hmmm Elite vs elite though.
Thats why it was in the bonus :sdo:

Average uchiha stuff is itself a fanfic tbh

 

[Ansatsuken]

Thannk you^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



I dont get salty over fanfic and stupidity. I laugh at it hysterically. Thanks for the laugh Micheal.


Exactly Hyuuga fanboys who praise the Hyuuga to unbelievable heights don't even realize most were actually weaker than Hinata.

Yes praising the Hyuuga to unbelievable high is unreasonable or not right but saying they are weaker than Hinata when not much focus being put on them by Kishi in manga is not a right decision. Unless we all happen to see them fighting all out where Kishi giving them a full spotlight in the manga and they all fight like a kid where Hinata is look better than all of them, there is where you can say they are weaker than Hinata.

 

[lndra]

Well any theoretical Uchiha who would be below Sasuke, Itachi, and Madara with 3T would be seen as average, somewhat. Because all three of those are top tier Uchiha alone, and no Hyuuga from any level could beat them (talking about Hebi Sasuke btw).

I don't even think off screen fodder Uchiha would lose to off screen fodder Hyuuga, unless they are carrying around a 2T Sharingan. At best Hiashi (the Clan Leader) could probably kill a 3T Uchiha whom is on 'fodder' level.

If that makes sense.