Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato and Tsunade at the same time? I admit, EMS Madara is top tier but this is a different story compared to the 5 Kage battle. These 4 Hokage together is a bit too much for Madara in my opinion.
How the hell do people think that EMS Madara would beat...
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No. I mean... that's what makes it difficult to think up a scenario where they win.
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He's not beating all of them. Ems and lower is not winning against Tobirama and other powerful kages along with him.
Seriously logically speaking the 5 gokages themselves fought edo rinnegan madara who literally used
1. 2 rinnegan techniques
2. several wood style techniques
3. Every single Susanoo abilities bar PS
4. combined uchiha susanoo with woodstyle clones of 25
And the Gokages beat all of that together with little to no chakra left once edo madara pulled out perfect susanoo. Ems madara himself can't even do half of that and people tend to forget that ems madara doesn't run on unlimited chakra like edo madara.
So that means no world tree, no 25 susano'o, no wood style, no absorbing, and no tengai shinsei.
Only way Madara wins is with the kyubi, besides that he loses.
Seriously logically speaking the 5 gokages themselves fought edo rinnegan madara who literally used
1. 2 rinnegan techniques
2. several wood style techniques
3. Every single Susanoo abilities bar PS
4. combined uchiha susanoo with woodstyle clones of 25
And the Gokages beat all of that together with little to no chakra left once edo madara pulled out perfect susanoo. Ems madara himself can't even do half of that and people tend to forget that ems madara doesn't run on unlimited chakra like edo madara.
So that means no world tree, no 25 susano'o, no wood style, no absorbing, and no tengai shinsei.
Only way Madara wins is with the kyubi, besides that he loses.
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I don't think anyone wins this, None of the kages have an attack to beat Susanoo, and Madara does not have an attack to beat FTG
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Ems madara can't control the gedo statue without senju cells and he doesn't have Amatersu either. You can also pause on that transcript seal too because it's not gonna be any use. All he has from your list is
1. Susanoo: Perfect form
2. Yasaka Magatama
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He doesn't have amaterasu, and this is EMS Madara (not rinnegan), so he couldn't summon the mazou. Also, I doubt he would sacrifice his eyes for izanagi for just this one battle.
Even so, Madara could possibly still win thanks to perfect susanoo and perhaps Kurama (and also genjutsu). It could still be a tough battle though and it honestly depends on whether or not Minato and Tobirama get ftg marks on him before he unleashes perfect susanoo.
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"Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato and Tsunade at the same time? I admit, EMS Madara is top tier but this is a different story compared to the 5 Kage battle. These 4 Hokage together is a bit too much for Madara in my opinion."
"Minato alone wrecks ems madara. Madara at that stage have absolutely zero counters for FTG."
"Minato alone wrecks ems madara. Madara at that stage have absolutely zero counters for FTG."
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this is bad logic. Madara didn't take the Gokage seriously until he decided to used his mech, plus being ET'd didn't mean his chakra was always at the max. He was simply so powerful, all the techniques he used took relatively small amounts to use. You forget that Hashirama stated he and EMS Madara were individually = a whole Kurama at the least. Tobirama, Minato, Hiruzen, and Tsunade are clearly outmatched based off that fact alone.
