"Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato and Tsunade at the same time? I admit, EMS Madara is top tier but this is a different story compared to the 5 Kage battle. These 4 Hokage together is a bit too much for Madara in my opinion."
"Minato alone wrecks ems madara. Madara at that stage have absolutely zero counters for FTG."
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He's not beating all of them. Ems and lower is not winning against Tobirama and other powerful kages along with him.
Seriously logically speaking the 5 gokages themselves fought edo rinnegan madara who literally used
1. 2 rinnegan techniques
2. several wood style techniques
3. Every single Susanoo abilities bar PS
4. combined uchiha susanoo with woodstyle clones of 25
And the Gokages beat all of that together with little to no chakra left once edo madara pulled out perfect susanoo. Ems madara himself can't even do half of that and people tend to forget that ems madara doesn't run on unlimited chakra like edo madara.
So that means no world tree, no 25 susano'o, no wood style, no absorbing, and no tengai shinsei.
Only way Madara wins is with the kyubi, besides that he loses.
this is bad logic. Madara didn't take the Gokage seriously until he decided to used his mech, plus being ET'd didn't mean his chakra was always at the max. He was simply so powerful, all the techniques he used took relatively small amounts to use. You forget that Hashirama stated he and EMS Madara were individually = a whole Kurama at the least. Tobirama, Minato, Hiruzen, and Tsunade are clearly outmatched based off that fact alone.
