Hashirama Senju at one point had control over all of the 9 tailed beasts. So its fair to say he knew a lot about sealing techs. When he fought Madara at the valley of the end, Madara has the kyuubi under his control.....but for how long?
My theory is this: In light of the latest manga, it becomes obvious that Madara is on the face of it far, far too powerful to be beaten by somebody whose only power really has been shown to be creating trees. There had to have been something extraordinary that happened for the 1st to have beat a man with immense chakra, speed, reflexes and an EMS with a powerful double headed susanoo. With the rinnegan added to all that, the 1st should have tucked tail and run like a p'ussy. But he did'nt. Here's why,
During the course of the battle, Hashirama got to working some seriously badass mojo, i.e sealing jutsu's. There's only 1 pic from that fight we've ever been shown:
Look at Hashirama, his hands are on a scroll, similar to the one Jiraiya once used to seal away ametarasu with:
That scrolled sealed ametarasu, Hashi's scroll sealed the 9 tails. But he did'nt just get rid of Madara's control over the kyuubi, as Minato did against Tobi, but in fact was able to take control over it for himself, perhaps through use of an illusion tech written on the scroll. Hashirama used the kyuubi to defeat Madara. He wrested control, and that's how he managed to win at the valley of the end. Madara must have been unable to retake the 9 tails as his chakra must have been depleted or the 1st's techs were too strong and like the dead demon seal, pretty much irreversible.
Well that's the theory anyway. I just don't buy that the 1st could have won otherwise. Or if he had some awesome, unknown power why did'nt he show it against the 3rd Hokage? Some people say Oro was weak yada yada no but really Oro was a beast as far as chakra goes and that's all you need for IWR. Once the 1st was summoned, or anyone else they are as strong as they were in their prime. Also, when Madara fights he's also an IWR summon but kicks major ass. If anything, Kabuto had to do like a hundred other summons which would've weakened him so Madara should have come outta the coffin weaker.
My theory is this: In light of the latest manga, it becomes obvious that Madara is on the face of it far, far too powerful to be beaten by somebody whose only power really has been shown to be creating trees. There had to have been something extraordinary that happened for the 1st to have beat a man with immense chakra, speed, reflexes and an EMS with a powerful double headed susanoo. With the rinnegan added to all that, the 1st should have tucked tail and run like a p'ussy. But he did'nt. Here's why,
During the course of the battle, Hashirama got to working some seriously badass mojo, i.e sealing jutsu's. There's only 1 pic from that fight we've ever been shown:
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Well that's the theory anyway. I just don't buy that the 1st could have won otherwise. Or if he had some awesome, unknown power why did'nt he show it against the 3rd Hokage? Some people say Oro was weak yada yada no but really Oro was a beast as far as chakra goes and that's all you need for IWR. Once the 1st was summoned, or anyone else they are as strong as they were in their prime. Also, when Madara fights he's also an IWR summon but kicks major ass. If anything, Kabuto had to do like a hundred other summons which would've weakened him so Madara should have come outta the coffin weaker.
