How strong would sasuke be without Itachi's Mangekyō Sharingan?

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This ^. Now that I think about it. Without Itachi's eyes, Obito would have keyed him in on the magic of Hashi cells, in which case, Sasuke would have gotten permanent MS plus potential to unlock rinnegan.

Don't forget he would have gotten Mokuton
 

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Rinnegan unlocks after EMS not MS so sasuke would probably stayed with his MS unless Oda thought up some power-up that he normally would have then that would have to be a whole different story

U mean Kishi not Oda and according to Hagoromo Indra+Ashura makes rinnegan not EMS+Hashi cells
 

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Rinnegan unlocks after EMS not MS so sasuke would probably stayed with his MS unless Oda thought up some power-up that he normally would have then that would have to be a whole different story

Rinnegan doesn't unlock after EMS. It unlocks after Indra and Ashura chakra come together. Even an incarnate who hasn't unlocked MS, could probably unlock rinnegan if the two chakras were present.
 

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Don't forget he would have gotten Mokuton

How do you know danzo has an arm made from Hashirama's cells he can't/didn't show any wood style techs. same goes for the shins in the Gaiden they're from danzo's right Hasirama arm why aren't they're using Mokuton.
 

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How do you know danzo has an arm made from Hashirama's cells he can't/didn't show any wood style techs. same goes for the shins in the Gaiden they're from danzo's right Hasirama arm why aren't they're using Mokuton.
Obito would use Zetsu flesh the same that he had and Obito can use Mokuton :|

Oh, yea and Shins were made from Shin's teeth not the arm :|
 

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How do you know danzo has an arm made from Hashirama's cells he can't/didn't show any wood style techs. same goes for the shins in the Gaiden they're from danzo's right Hasirama arm why aren't they're using Mokuton.

All Uchihas who have gotten hashi cells have used mokuton. But that's not really part of the argument here.
 

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Same level, he has non of itachis powers
 

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MS Sasuke. Manga would be over though since obito would have won.
 
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Sasuke would be blind without Itachi. In sasukes case he was going blind way faster than Itachi was. Obito MS can be spammed apparently without going blind. Case and point Kakashi since he still has MS use. Im sure Obito's Hash cells play a part. As for indra his dojutsu was a sharingan "variant" which resulted in the sharingan we know today so I'm sure he didn't go blind in MS
 

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U mean Kishi not Oda and according to Hagoromo Indra+Ashura makes rinnegan not EMS+Hashi cells

That doesn't really matter Madara was Indra's transmigrant then not sasuke but Hashirama was Ashura's, so Sasuke has Ashura transmigrant thingy from Hasirama's cells and would only unlock the rinnegan if he became Indra's transmigrant and when that happens he wouldn't have unlocked the rinnegan because then Naruto would be Ashura's transmigrant meaning sasuke'd need Naruto DNA to unlock the rinnegan and not Hasirama's, don't get me wrong it would be a power booster though
 

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As strong as Indra because he would have probably just gotten Hashi cells instead from Obito to help with the blindness. With that he still would have went to the war and still would have received Hagoromo's chakra. Making him at Indra's lvl
Don't forget Obito also wanted to sync Sasuke with he do Mazo if he did that Sasuke would have had good life force permanent MS and still awaken Rinnegan and meet the sage.
 
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