how strong would rinn sharingan Madara be with all the third rinn feats ?

[Conspirator.]

Madara cannot handle all of that chakra like Kaguya can, so this is fanfic.

 

[KidGamer65]

I've never seen Sasuke say something like that before. It isn't from Viz, is it? It makes sense for the swelling to be from Kaguya, such as when she/the ten-tails was about to take over Obito.

Nope. You just didn't read carefully enough. That's mangapanda.

And no, it makes no sense for the swelling to be from Kaguya. Not when Kaguya hadn't begun to take him over yet.

 

[Holy God]

Nope. You just didn't read carefully enough. That's mangapanda.

And no, it makes no sense for the swelling to be from Kaguya. Not when Kaguya hadn't begun to take him over yet.

Kaguya was taking him over then. Why do you think she was able to grab Naruto and Sasuke by hair? As soon as he was impaled the transformation started.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kaguya was taking him over then. Why do you think she was able to grab Naruto and Sasuke by hair? As soon as he was impaled the transformation started.

You have a point here....but it doesn't change the facts though. The swelling was from the chakra, and it doesn't make sense for it to be from Kaguya when he only started swelling when the chakra entered his body.

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[Holy God]

You have a point here....but it doesn't change the facts though. The swelling was from the chakra, and it doesn't make sense for it to be from Kaguya when he only started swelling when the chakra entered his body.

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It could be two things:

That his body could not absorb all of the chakra. One of the reasons holding me back on this was because Kaguya, a mere human(oid), was able to get all that chakra after eating the fruit with nothing like the effect of swelling.

Kaguya was using that chakra to help takeover Madara's willpower. The swelling and splitting was similar to when she/the ten-tails attempted to take over Obito.

 

[KidGamer65]

It could be two things:

That his body could not absorb all of the chakra. One of the reasons holding me back on this was because Kaguya, a mere human(oid), was able to get all that chakra after eating the fruit with nothing like the effect of swelling

All that means is that Kaguya>>>>>Madara.

Kaguya was using that chakra to help takeover Madara's willpower. The swelling and splitting was similar to when she/the ten-tails attempted to take over Obito.

Nothing implies that. Everything implies that the chakra caused him to swell, because it was too much for him to handle, as Sasuke stated.

 

[ARGUS]

Kaguya would still clown him, JJ hagoromo beats him as well when he is literally naruto and sasuke (only better) along with the juubi boost

 

[wael reda]

i dont think we can be 100% sure than madara wont handle this chakra since sasuke statement and the swelling were when madara was already being controlled and was turned into kaguya however kaguya could stop the swelling and control the chakra ,that is why we cant know for sure if madara would handle this chakra or not if he wasnt being controlled and had full will

whatever ,madara should be able to handle a part of it at least ,or use it to enhance his susano,alright?

 

[Bronze]

i dont think we can be 100% sure than madara wont handle this chakra since sasuke statement and the swelling were when madara was already being controlled and was turned into kaguya however kaguya could stop the swelling and control the chakra ,that is why we cant know for sure if madara would handle this chakra or not if he wasnt being controlled and had full will

whatever ,madara should be able to handle a part of it at least ,or use it to enhance his susano,alright?

It's all incorrect.

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He wouldn't make a claim some sort of ''In the end, I'll have the most powerful Chakra'' if he knew his body can't handle it.

 

[KidGamer65]

i dont think we can be 100% sure than madara wont handle this chakra since sasuke statement and the swelling were when madara was already being controlled and was turned into kaguya however kaguya could stop the swelling and control the chakra ,that is why we cant know for sure if madara would handle this chakra or not if he wasnt being controlled and had full will

whatever ,madara should be able to handle a part of it at least ,or use it to enhance his susano,alright?

This is starting to vet pathetic. Please stop arguing with the manga. Nothing implies that kaguyas takeover had anything to do with why he was swelling up, Sasuke alreast told us why. Only someone out to prove a point regardless of what the manga says would be able to read that scan and continue the petty argumentation.

Madara can't handle it, and kaguya being able to obviously isn't proof. How does that even make sense?

 

[wael reda]

It's all incorrect.

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He wouldn't make a claim some sort of ''In the end, I'll have the most powerful Chakra'' if he knew his body can't handle it.

very good point bro

 

[wael reda]

This is starting to vet pathetic. Please stop arguing with the manga. Nothing implies that kaguyas takeover had anything to do with why he was swelling up, Sasuke alreast told us why. Only someone out to prove a point regardless of what the manga says would be able to read that scan and continue the petty argumentation.

Madara can't handle it, and kaguya being able to obviously isn't proof. How does that even make sense?

dont try to make me look as if i were arguing against the manga ,i amnot saying that the swelling wasnt because of the chakra ,i know that it was because of the chakra ,but i am saying that a statment on controlled willless weakened madara who turned into kaguya doesnt apply on uncontrolled madara with full will

also there is the scan which bronze added ,in which madara showed that he was planing to cast the IT and absorb all people chakra leaving the world with no chakra and then he would have the most powerfull chakra ,this scand means that :

1.madara can absolutly absorb the chakra of people inside the IT (that isnt an assumption anymore)

2-it is highly possible that madara can handle this chakra ,and again what applies on weakened ,willless controlled madara doesnt apply on uncontrolled healthy madara with full will

 

[KidGamer65]

dont try to make me look as if i were arguing against the manga ,i amnot saying that the swelling wasnt because of the chakra ,i know that it was because of the chakra ,but i am saying that a statment on controlled willless weakened madara who turned into kaguya doesnt apply on uncontrolled madara with full will

Then you are going to have to prove it. Manga stated what happened. Not interested in your interpretation.

also there is the scan which bronze added ,in which madara showed that he was planing to cast the IT and absorb all people chakra leaving the world with no chakra and then he would have the most powerfull chakra ,this scand means that :

Lol zero proof that Madara was going to absorb their chakra. Madara said at the end of it all, he'll be the one with the strongest chakra. That doesn't imply he's going to take chakra from the IT victims.

1.madara can absolutly absorb the chakra of people inside the IT (that isnt an assumption anymore)

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2-it is highly possible that madara can handle this chakra ,and again what applies on weakened ,willless controlled madara doesnt apply on uncontrolled healthy madara with full will

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All you are doing is searching for any kind of reason you can come up with justify the fact that you are arguing with the manga. You don't even have any evidence of your claims. Just empty statements. Give it up, and stop arguing with facts. It gets old.

 

[NextGenNinja]

^ Idk if it's gonna be any helpful but here's the viz scan for that translation.

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[wael reda]

Then you are going to have to prove it. Manga stated what happened. Not interested in your interpretation.


Lol zero proof that Madara was going to absorb their chakra. Madara said at the end of it all, he'll be the one with the strongest chakra. That doesn't imply he's going to take chakra from the IT victims.

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All you are doing is searching for any kind of reason you can come up with justify the fact that you are arguing with the manga. You don't even have any evidence of your claims. Just empty statements. Give it up, and stop arguing with facts. It gets old.

i dont need to prove that what applies on weakened ,willless controlled madara who turned into kaguya ,doesnt apply on healthy uncontrolled madara with full will power ,that is a simple logic
on the other hand you are the one who need to prove that sasuke statment applies on healthy madara with full will power


Lol,madara said he would make a world with no chakra after he would cast the IT,so it is either madara meant that he was going to kill all people in the world or he would absorb thier chakra after putting them inside the IT ,i dont think it is the first Lol

you litterally twist what manga says ,when madara sayed he would have the most powerful chakra ,his chakra then was already waaaay stronger than any living body’s chakra,that means madara clearly didnt mean the most powerful chakra among the living people,he clearly meant the most powerful chakra through the chakra history ,having the IT chakra is the only thing that makes him have the most powerfull chakra


you conceaded the moment you used sasuke statement on weakened,controlled willess madara ,as an evidence for healthy uncontrolled madara with full will power and the moment you twisted what madara said to obito .

 

[KidGamer65]

i dont need to prove that what applies on weakened ,willless controlled madara who turned into kaguya ,doesnt apply on healthy uncontrolled madara with full will power ,that is a simple logic
on the other hand you are the one who need to prove that sasuke statment applies on healthy madara with full will power

Um, yes, you do. You need to prove that Madara being in the process of being taken over would change how much chakra his body can handle. I suggest we stop the shitty debating tactics. When something happens and you don't like it, you argue against all the facts. You did the same bullshit w/ Kamui Raikiri. What a joke.

Lol,madara said he would make a world with no chakra after he would cast the IT,so it is either madara meant that he was going to kill all people in the world or he would absorb thier chakra after putting them inside the IT ,i dont think it is the first Lol

Don't be dumb.

World w/ no chakra=Madara's Genjutsu World. Did you not read the many chapters where he explicitly explained his plan?

you litterally twist what manga says ,when madara sayed he would have the most powerful chakra ,his chakra then was already waaaay stronger than any living body’s chakra,that means madara clearly didnt mean the most powerful chakra among the living people,he clearly meant the most powerful chakra through the chakra history ,having the IT chakra is the only thing that makes him have the most powerfull chakra

Lol what a fucking joke. I'm twisting the manga? Coming from the guy who is trying to prove that Madara can absorb chakra that he was shown and stated to be unable to handle?

See, this is where your own biased interpretation comes in. Something I don't care for. Get evidence or get lost. At the end, he'll have the most powerful chakra. People who don't exist anymore obviously aren't included. Let's use common sense.

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And that is what Madara said. Mangapanda has shown to be better than *********** most of the time. "As the last one with the strongest chakra". Your whole argument is based on the translation of a scanlation group that has shown to be inaccurate as hell in the past.

Like I said, what a joke.

you conceaded the moment you used sasuke statement on weakened,controlled willess madara ,as an evidence for healthy uncontrolled madara with full will power and the moment you twisted what madara said to obito .

You conceded the moment you failed to prove your assertion, instead replying with "I don't need to prove that"

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Read the manga and then get back to me kid.

 

[wael reda]

Um, yes, you do. You need to prove that Madara being in the process of being taken over would change how much chakra his body can handle. I suggest we stop the shitty debating tactics. When something happens and you don't like it, you argue against all the facts. You did the same bullshit w/ Kamui Raikiri. What a joke.

kaguya handled it with the same body of madara,i dont think kaguya will would change how much chakra madara body can handle ,it is a matter of will power ,that is why kaguya will could handle this chakra at the same body

Don't be dumb.

World w/ no chakra=Madara's Genjutsu World. Did you not read the many chapters where he explicitly explained his plan?

hm maybe ,but it can mean that he would absorb thier chakra but whatever ,this part isnt so important here,the coming one is

Lol what a fucking joke. I'm twisting the manga? Coming from the guy who is trying to prove that Madara can absorb chakra that he was shown and stated to be unable to handle?

See, this is where your own biased interpretation comes in. Something I don't care for. Get evidence or get lost. At the end, he'll have the most powerful chakra. People who don't exist anymore obviously aren't included. Let's use common sense.

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And that is what Madara said. Mangapanda has shown to be better than *********** most of the time. "As the last one with the strongest chakra". Your whole argument is based on the translation of a scanlation group that has shown to be inaccurate as hell in the past.

Like I said, what a joke.

i will ,future tense ,that means it is yet to come, with the simple fact that madara had the most powerful chakra among living people then ,madara clearly meant the most powerfull chakra though the chakra history

Lol,it is completly the other way around,*********** is better than manga panda,i cant get VIZ translation ,if you can ,then add it ,if it matched mangasyream ,then madara clearly planed to absorb IT chakra ,if it matched mangapanda ,then i would admit that there is no evidence that madara can handle this chakra

You conceded the moment you failed to prove your assertion, instead replying with "I don't need to
prove that"

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Read the manga and then get back to me kid.

i dont need to prove what human brain should deduce easily

 

[wael reda]

kamui raikiri? i never used my interpetation in any debate or vs match after our convo till i made sure about the translation

 

[Bronze]

very good point bro

Always there to help against fallacious argument.

 

[KidGamer65]

kaguya handled it with the same body of madara,i dont think kaguya will would change how much chakra madara body can handle ,it is a matter of will power ,that is why kaguya will could handle this chakra at the same body

Nope. If it were the same body, then it wouldn't have returned to normal when Kaguya took over. That is Kaguya, and Kaguya's body. Kaguya being able to handle something doesn't mean that Madara can handle it, the rest is irrelevant. You still haven't proven that Madara being taken over is why he couldn't handle the chakra. It was explained why. Because his body can't handle it. Anything else is your interpretation and I'm not interested in your interpretation.

hm maybe ,but it can mean that he would absorb thier chakra but whatever ,this part isnt so important here,the coming one is

If you read the manga with a biased mind, trying your hardest to formulate a shit argument then yes, you would arrive at that conclusion.

i will ,future tense ,that means it is yet to come, with the simple fact that madara had the most powerful chakra among living people then ,madara clearly meant the most powerfull chakra though the chakra history

At the end. End is in the future after he's won. End=Future. Hence the future tense. Madara clearly meant that after it's all over, he'll be the one left with the strongest chakra. Anyone reading the manga with a clear mind and without some nonsense agenda knows that.

But then again, look who I'm debating with. Not the first time we've twisted the truth to prove your argument.

Lol,it is completly the other way around,*********** is better than manga panda,i cant get VIZ translation ,if you can ,then add it ,if it matched mangasyream ,then madara clearly planed to absorb IT chakra ,if it matched mangapanda ,then i would admit that there is no evidence that madara can handle this chakra

There is no evidence even w/ that scan. Already explained it. If you want the VIZ, go post it in the thread. I'm not going to go out of my way to try and prove something wrong, that doesn't even exist to begin with.

i dont need to prove what human brain should deduce easily

Concession accepted kid. Concession accepted. You only use this excuse because you can't formulate a logical argument to back your assertion.

kamui raikiri? i never used my interpetation in any debate or vs match after our convo till i made sure about the translation

Oh please. Lol. The only reason you doubted the translation is because it didn't align with your views, hence your interpretation, of the jutsu's abilities. You wanted it to be something it wasn't, that's why you made up the BS "Make sure of the translation" excuse.