[Discussion] How strong would Obito be without Kamui?

[JasonTheArgonaut]

He'd still be pretty awesome

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

What's with all these stupid answers? Obito still has sharingan and rinnegan even without kamui. Obito is top 20 without kamui still...

 

[LordRaikage]

I'd have to disagree with you.

Without Kamui, Obito would never had been able to gain the Rinnegan. He would have never been able to infiltrate the leaf village and gain control of the nine tails, would have never been able to run the Akatsuki, the list goes on. Long story short, he'd be dead at the moment.

what does kamui have to do with all of that he still has his sharingan

 

[b7718]

This question doesnt makes any sense.
u r asking how strong itachi or sasuke would be without susanoo or ameteraso or tsukyomi.

It's a straight forward question, how does it not make sense?

The question didn't ask about Itachi or Sasuke, it was about Obito. No one's stopping you from making a thread revolving around Itachi and Sauske.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I bet plenty of people will say he is weak without it although i don't see how him being able to be hit takes away from his already pre-existing skills.

Sure he can't stand there anymore and launch surprising attacks from kamui but,he still has senju dna for stamina,the rinnegan,mokuton and the 3 tomoe sharingan,uchiha kinjustu also the yin-yang and yin-yang release

 

[Aominecchi]

Well curent Obito would still be quite poweful but he would have to create a new battle style because without Kamui he is easy to defeat since we haven't see him use rinnengan

 

[ANiMUS]

This question doesnt makes any sense.
u r asking how strong itachi or sasuke would be without susanoo or ameteraso or tsukyomi.

Both Sasuke and Itachi are strong as hell without there MS tech. Itachi led Anbu at 13 (before obtaining MS) and Sasuke beat Diedara, 1000 Shinobi, and a weakened Orochimaru all without MS. So Itachi and Sasuke would still be pretty strong.

 

[b7718]

what does kamui have to do with all of that he still has his sharingan

Are you serious?

Can you do me a favor and just think about it for a moment. If you really need an explanation, I'll break it down for you, but if you're trolling, don't waste my time.

 

[Thundergod123]

I'd have to disagree with you.

Without Kamui, Obito would never had been able to gain the Rinnegan. He would have never been able to infiltrate the leaf village and gain control of the nine tails, would have never been able to run the Akatsuki, the list goes on. Long story short, he'd be dead at the moment.

Itachi would have killed him with ease even he can from before, nuff said.

 

[Kαmi]

- six Bijuu at his disposal
- Fire Style that rivals Madara's
- Gunbai that repels Ninjutsu
- Sharingan gives him an advantage over taijutsu and he can copy ninjutsu

Still pretty strong, but he drops in the top 10.

This, plus he has decent Mokuton skills. He'd probably be closer to the bottom of top 10

 

[3 Days Grace]

He would be like Sakura before the time skip lol

 

[b7718]

While you are is correct, that's not what the OP is asking about. He's simply asking how powerful he'd be with his current abilities, bar the Kamui. If he was asking how powerful he'd be if he never had the Kamui, the answer would be obvious.

The question posed was: "How strong would Obito be without Kamui"? There is no mention of "current" Obito. If that IS what he meant, he failed to be specific and clear. Just because it's what you believe he intended, doesn't mean it's how it was posed.

 

[the last shinobi]

This isn't a question that you ca just answer, with kamui he would have developed differently. MS posses some type unquie power are you saynig he wouldn't have MS or would that ability be different? Without kamui he is still a pretty good hand to hand fighter... kakashi couldn't do this

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there is a lot consider with this question but w/o kamui i'd say slightly weaker than nagato

 

[vasu 32]

stupid question,and stupid thread.
it's as if u r asking a man how strong he is without his penis in bed!?

 

[Meowazziel]

The title says it all.

Weakling among fodders.

He wouldnt have rinnegan,
senju dna,
bijous,
six paths etc. either,
since he wouldnt be able to obtain it without sharingan.
Madara wouldnt have given senju dna to a non uchiha or uchiha without sharingan.

He would just be a failzor who would die from a rock.

 

[Hell Autarch]

- six Bijuu at his disposal
- Fire Style that rivals Madara's
- Gunbai that repels Ninjutsu
- Sharingan gives him an advantage over taijutsu and he can copy ninjutsu

Still pretty strong, but he drops in the top 10.

Jinchuuriki were revived by Kabuto and the Bijuu's chakra was controlled via the Gedo Mazo
Fire Release, yes it rivals that of Madara
Gunbai belonged to Madara
If his body cannot keep up with the speed then there is no point in using the Sharingan

 

[Telekinesis]

I'd have to disagree with you.

Without Kamui, Obito would never had been able to gain the Rinnegan. He would have never been able to infiltrate the leaf village and gain control of the nine tails, would have never been able to run the Akatsuki, the list goes on. Long story short, he'd be dead at the moment.

As you can see I'm a Tobi fan. Especially the goofy one, not Obito. Because there are lots of difference between personalities.

You are missing the point.
Let's assume that he never has the power of kamui. That's okay because he is the mastermind of this story. Tobi is sneaky bastard and master of manipulators

I don't even mention about Sharingan, Mokuton, Rinnegan, Zetsu's advantage, Ying-Yang Jutsu, Seal Jutsu....
He doesn't give a shit about them why would we ?

 

[oShux]

Df dude whats the point in taking away a characters power up every single one of them has a certain power up which makes them who they are

 

[Hell Autarch]

As you can see I'm a Tobi fan. Especially the goofy one, not Obito. Because there are lots of difference between personalities.

You are missing the point.
Let's assume that he never has the power of kamui. That's okay because he is the mastermind of this story. Tobi is sneaky bastard and master of manipulators

I don't even mention about Sharingan, Mokuton, Rinnegan, Zetsu's advantage, Ying-Yang Jutsu, Seal Jutsu....
He doesn't give a shit about them why would we ?

Orochimaru is the true master manipulator. He manipulated Sunagakure as well as 1000's of shinobi to sacrifice their life for him.

 

[Meowazziel]

Who do people make threads like these?

What is the point of taking the core power from a character and asking what the character would be without it?