How strong would Naruto be had Kushina and Minato not died?

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Which team 8 member can defeat SM naruto with FTG ??
Who says he would ever get SM, or Hiraishin?

Having both parents alive, not being Jinchuriki, and therefore not being ostracized, Naruto most likely would be totally different person.

I doubt he would be motivated as he is in series, not to mention, I don't think he would get chance to see that scroll where he learned that skill with massive number of clones.
 

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Who says he would ever get SM, or Hiraishin?

Having both parents alive, not being Jinchuriki, and therefore not being ostracized, Naruto most likely would be totally different person.

I doubt he would be motivated as he is in series, not to mention, I don't think he would get chance to see that scroll where he learned that skill with massive number of clones.
You mean hokage's son will just wandering around street doing nothing
 

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You mean hokage's son will just wandering around street doing nothing
All I'm saying is that that Naruto wouldn't be motivated as the one we know.

Plus, take in account that by default Naruto was never all that talented, except maybe with jutsu that transforms him into Naruko.

For Hiraishin, aside from Minato and Tobirama, it took 3-4 people to perform it.

And for SM, Naruto needs clones, which he sucked at doing, and only managed when he got that scroll.

But, like I said, he most likely wouldn't be determined as he is, and he wouldn't value some things, like bonds, if he didn't experience all those hardships in his childhood.
 

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All I'm saying is that that Naruto wouldn't be motivated as the one we know.

Plus, take in account that by default Naruto was never all that talented, except maybe with jutsu that transforms him into Naruko.

For Hiraishin, aside from Minato and Tobirama, it took 3-4 people to perform it.

And for SM, Naruto needs clones, which he sucked at doing, and only managed when he got that scroll.

But, like I said, he most likely wouldn't be determined as he is, and he wouldn't value some things, like bonds, if he didn't experience all those hardships in his childhood.
Naruto isn't talented at all from the begining and about motivation being compare with minato and kushina is more than enough for motivation
 

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He still be pretty damn impressive. With his Minato and Kushina alive that means he won't be neglected and his parents will likely train him along with Jiraiya, Kakashi, Hiruzen, Pa, and Yamato.

He'd be trained in chakra natures and rasenshuriken at a much earlier age, and without Kurama he can fuse Ma and Pa to his shoulders, which gives him access to the majority of Jiraiya's techs. He'd prob also learn ftg and Uzumaki seals from his parents.
 
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He needs kurama to beat Sasuke along with a ton of other characters.

So it's your call?
Where would you get that idea? In case you werent paying attention, Naruto had been held back by Kurama for such a long time. Even he stated it to Naruto that he didnt like the idea that he would ever learn Sage Mode when he had him inside of him.

Those times that they fought, Kurama was trying to get Naruto killed so that he can come out. So please, tell me more about Kurama saving Naruto when it was his doing in the 1st place.
 

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He'd start much better off than he was in the beginning but finish much lower on the powerscalesthan the current him is. He would likely already have shadow clone jutsu but not the multi clone variant and Rasengan. He likely wouldn't get sage training at 16 though maybe a few years down the line instead. Being generous here and saying he may have access to some sealing jutsu. As for FTG i doubt he would be as good with it as Minato. And most of all it would be great to see him have more variety in his wind release.
 
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