How strong will Naruto be without a tailed beast?

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His large chakra reserves even as a youth as well as his recovery speed are due to being the kyubi ' host and it's chakra leaking into the body.
So he would have rasengan his scj would be average like kakashis as well as chakra reserves. Who knows perhaps he would find a way to compensate for his lack of chakra etc. And perhaps not having the mental development he had from all the years of hatred he may be a different type of ninja. So I'd rank him as high chunin low joinin level(since he still got Ashurs weakness foderitisis and needs hard work and all that needing to rely on others).

Funny guy. Not like he's an Uzumaki or anything.
 

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This kind of question already exist before in NB
 

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Probably SM Naruto, although it's hard to say since naruto base chakra has been mixing with kurama since birth, well the seal placement. Then again naruto would still lack parents, although he probably wouldn't be such an outcast and perhaps learn better. Zzz
 

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Funny guy. Not like he's an Uzumaki or anything.

Uzumaki excel in fuinn jutsu and strong lifeforce (longevity) in case you don't know. Being half uzumaki so half the lifeforce potential not much is it. Instead of 120 he would live to about 60. Big hurray for the uzumaki lineage.
It does not affect any of the points made earlier.
 

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So did Dando dint help him much.

Uzumaki are compatible with Senju - they are blood relatives. Danzo was a fodder trying to get a power up he can't control. Also Naruto has RSM.
 
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Kek, Uzumaki's are known for large stamina pools.

Nagato is known for large stamina pool not uzumaki only strong lifeforce not to mention he is half at that. No other uzumaki have been shown to possess naturally large stamina pools (that's assuming Nagato is natural in lack of something to negate it).
 

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Nagato is known for large stamina pool not uzumaki only strong lifeforce not to mention he is half at that.
Madara battled hashirama for 24 hours does that mean uchiha are k own for large stamina pools?

But Madara lost. You don't know how much longer Hashi would be able to battle. Hashi still has greater stamina. It depends relative to whom you measure stamina of a ninja. Compared to Hashi, Madara does not have large stamina pools.
 

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Uzumaki are compatible with Senju - they are blood relatives. Danzo was fodder trying to get power up he can't control. Also Naruto has RSM.
You know this is a thread about naruto without tailed beast if he didn't have kurama how would he get Hashi's arm and secondly being half uzumaki doesn't do him favours and neither does it show he could wield Hashirama's power. Mokuton in this case or the level of hashirama
 
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Uzumaki excel in fuinn jutsu and strong lifeforce (longevity) in case you don't know. Being half uzumaki so half the lifeforce potential not much is it. Instead of 120 he would live to about 60. Big hurray for the uzumaki lineage.
It does not affect any of the points made earlier.

Kushina and Minato= Fodder then? riiiiight. Minato had SM so his chakra levels were huge, plus his seals and feats vs Kurama and Obito should say it all. Kushina was the full 9 jin, do I need to go on?

You do know he's an Ashura descendent too, right?

Naruto had a 2k Uzumaki barrage in like the first ep.
 

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Kushina and Minato= Fodder then? riiiiight. Minato had SM so his chakra levels were huge, plus his seals and feats vs Kurama and Obito should say it all. Kushina was the full 9 jin, do I need to go on?

You do know he's an Ashura descendent too, right?

Naruto had a 2k Uzumaki barrage in like the first ep.

I think you need to reread the manga naruto is a reincarnated ashuea descendant. So he's not gifted he has to do hard work to achieve anything. Plus minato had sage mode it was a fodder sage mode at that if all he could muster was a regular rasengan with sage chakra then it wasn't special and doesnt confirm high chakra reserves. And so far from what we have seen of the uzumaki seals is sealing and reaper seal. K owing that is not going to make you top tier. And naruto's large chakra reserves for his 2k barrage are not his own feats but minato kyubi seal feats which raised his chakra reserves over time. Please re read the manga.
I am sure I have addressed most of these points earlier.
 

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But Madara lost. You don't know how much longer Hashi would be able to battle. Hashi still has greater stamina. It depends relative to whom you measure stamina of a ninja. Compared to Hashi, Madara does not have large stamina pools.

Naruto's feats against sasuke in the valley of the end with 12-13 years of kyubi chakra leaking in and increasing his reserves were shown. And he was spent after it. Without kyubi chakra and this event he would have kakashis level at most.
Those chakra feats everyone keeps quting are not naruto's own but kyubi ' depending on which way you look at it. And I have stated naruto would probably be a different type of ninja if there was no jyubi and have his own style not current style. So who knows.
 

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You know this is a thread about naruto without tailed beast if he didn't have kurama how would he get Hashi's arm and secondly being half uzumaki doesn't do him favours and neither does it show he could wield Hashirama's power. Mokuton in this case or the level of hashirama

Read title and original thread. It says nothing about Naruto not getting the arm. All it says is "How strong will Naruto be without a tailed beast? ", so most of it is left to your own interpretation. In my interpretation it is current Naruto, only without tailed beasts.
 

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Naruto's feats against sasuke in the valley of the end with 12-13 years of kyubi chakra leaking in and increasing his reserves were shown. And he was spent after it. Without kyubi chakra and this event he would have kakashis level at most.
Those chakra feats everyone keeps quting are not naruto's own but kyubi ' depending on which way you look at it. And I have stated naruto would probably be a different type of ninja if there was no jyubi and have his own style not current style. So who knows.

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And guess what, that woman is Naruto's mother. There are different angles you can look at it, but without kyuubi Naruto would be totally different person, so we can't really be sure.
 

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Without Kurama, this is what he loses:

- A large supply of chakra. Without Kurama, there is no natural mixing between his own chakra and Kuramas, which means he cannot make clones regularly and spring back because of the healing quality and resilience Kurama naturally provides his body.

- That means people can forget that he trains through SM and Rasangan quickly. In fact, he wouldn't even have an FRS, which is useless anyways without Kurama's chakra.

- He hasn't learned SM because he cut down the time yet again.

- People can forget mass clones.

Even if I do offer him the courtesy of SM, then he's mid Jounin at most. Because he has what, like one technique at his disposal bar Kage Bunshin? Yeah, that's where he lies; Rasangan and KBs.

Also, let's see the common things Naruto can do with Kurama's chakra:

- Kurama being the source of Naruto’s stamina.






With Kyuubi connection: Naruto resisting poison.



Without Kyuubi connection:


Not to mention the mass clones.



I hope to God you are joking.


Not only is your post complete garbage but If Naruto never had Kyuubi, Sasuke would never have had the urgency to go past 3-tomoe sharingan. He would be equivalent to these 3 fodder Uchiha police force dudes.

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Itachi and Kisame would have never been in the leaf looking for Naruto(Kyuubi) so this wouldnt have happened
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Which lead to sasuke wanting to acquire MORE power.



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Cute post though, managed to get a good laugh from me

Inb4 you make up some shit like "I didn't ask for your opinion" autoplay
 
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He'd be stonger than Minato, Kakashi, and Tsunade, on par with Tobirama, weaker than Hashirama, and prime Hiruzen.
 
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Naruto's feats against sasuke in the valley of the end with 12-13 years of kyubi chakra leaking in and increasing his reserves were shown. And he was spent after it. Without kyubi chakra and this event he would have kakashis level at most.
Those chakra feats everyone keeps quting are not naruto's own but kyubi ' depending on which way you look at it. And I have stated naruto would probably be a different type of ninja if there was no jyubi and have his own style not current style. So who knows.

Oops. Tired. Meant reincarnation, not descendent. Who else was one of those? Hashi so yeah.. his chakra just takes longer to blossom or w/e. You're going to stick with what you said? The 4th hokage has shitty chakra reserves apparently. I meant seals as in FTG btw. He summoned the main toad, teleported the Kyuubi, was catching TBB's and fighting Obito but you go right ahead and say that's average.

Naruto's chakra was blue so that was him to me. Kyuubi chakra had't even been introduced at that stage which meant the seal was still strong because Kurama wasn't giving him chakra voluntarily then when he gave into hatred.

Kyuubi disrupted Narutots' chakra anyway.
 
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And guess what, that woman is Naruto's mother. There are different angles you can look at it, but without kyuubi Naruto would be totally different person, so we can't really be sure.

Kinda pointless, this example, given that Naruto lacks the red hair that actually signify the pure Uzumaki life-force:

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Not to mention the fact that 1) Kabuto doesn't even bother listing Naruto and 2) Naruto died immediately after Kurama was pulled. Whereas Kushina 1) used chains to keep Kurama restrained till the last second, 2) and actually moved to shield Naruto as well. She would have actually lived longer had the claw not impaled her.


This thread has nothing to do with Sasuke. So I am not sure how your pile of nonsense relates to OP. Whatever I said about Naruto on the other hand is fact.
 
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