How strong was Rikudo before he becames Jubi Jin. ?

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What do u think how powerful pre jin sage is?

Far stronger than Madara now, I guess. Hagoromo was in every way unique. He was born with chakra inside his body, that's an attribute no other human had. His knowledge about the origins of chakra and Ninjutsu is unsurpassed too. Hagoromos Rinnegan was stronger than Madaras. As I said it before, he could create the moon shortly before he died without Jūbis power.

On the other hand Hagoromo had mastered Inton and Yoton on a level no other could ever achieve. Banbutsu Sōzō is the most astoundingly Jutsu. Rinne Tensei is also Hagoromos Kinjutsu.
 

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kid Rikudo is stronger than all
 

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I never said the sage wasn't powerfull.
I never said double Rinnegan SM Madara. But i stand by my claim that Obito could beat Hashirama. Because he can.

Yeah he may be able to defeat Hashirama using the bijuus and the Mazou
 

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Stronger than SM Rinnegan Madara by far...and Madara was the strongest Non Juubi Jin Shinobi.

KidGamer spoke, no you can write anything you want because it doesn not matter ;)

OT: I believe Pre Jin Hagoromo(having Ultimate SM + double Rinnegan etc.) was Juubi Jin Obito v1. 's level but with mind
 
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KidGamer spoke, no you can write anything you want because it doesn not matter ;)

OT: I believe Pre Hagoromo(having Ultimate SM + double Rinnegan etc.) was Juubi Jin Obito v1. 's level but with mind

I couldn't agree more
 

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Hashirama is not stronger than pre-Juubi jin Rikudo because it took 4 kages just to trap 10 tails, whereas Rikudo defeated and sealed 10tails on his own.

Pre-Juubi Jin Rikudo is somewhere above 2 Rinnegan + SM + Mokuton Madara. Imo. Not that much stronger.
Also at one point Madara was missing 1 rinnegan and half of kyuubi and technically he would have been on the same level as Hagaromo, so yeah.

He is strong but Madara with 2Rinnegan+ Hashirama's Mokuton and Sage Mode is buffed up.

That is a crazy combo and saying Rikudo is just above that its not a small thing.
Imo its just right.

Also Madara wanted to defeat Juubito on his own, so thats something interesting.

Madara believed( 2 rinnegan + mokuton) that he can win Juubito on his own. Add Sage Mode to that and he is right under pre-juubi jin Rikudo.

Hagaromo >>> God Madara >>> pre-juubi jin Rikudo > 2 Rinnegan/Sage Mode/Mokuton Madara > Juubito.

L.E.: I believe Sage of 6 Paths had Sage Mode . People please dont go full retard and say the Sage didnt have Sage Mode =D
Mokuton i also believe he has. I mean he had a tree inside of him and he couldn't use wood release? :D

Im sure he possesed all elements and some KKG(at least Mokuton, Yoton, my opinion)
 
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Just let i rest, SO6P was stronger than any character pre & post Jubi Jin. The guy soloed the Jubi alone for gods sake!
 

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He was already a pseudo Juubi host before becoming the host of the Juubi.
 

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Hashirama is not stronger than pre-Juubi jin Rikudo because it took 4 kages just to trap 10 tails, whereas Rikudo defeated and sealed 10tails on his own.

Pre-Juubi Jin Rikudo is somewhere above 2 Rinnegan + SM + Mokuton Madara. Imo. Not that much stronger.
Also at one point Madara was missing 1 rinnegan and half of kyuubi and technically he would have been on the same level as Hagaromo, so yeah.

He is strong but Madara with 2Rinnegan+ Hashirama's Mokuton and Sage Mode is buffed up.

That is a crazy combo and saying Rikudo is just above that its not a small thing.
Imo its just right.

Also Madara wanted to defeat Juubito on his own, so thats something interesting.

Madara believed( 2 rinnegan + mokuton) that he can win Juubito on his own. Add Sage Mode to that and he is right under pre-juubi jin Rikudo.

Hagaromo >>> God Madara >>> pre-juubi jin Rikudo > 2 Rinnegan/Sage Mode/Mokuton Madara > Juubito.

L.E.: I believe Sage of 6 Paths had Sage Mode . People please dont go full retard and say the Sage didnt have Sage Mode =D
Mokuton i also believe he has. I mean he had a tree inside of him and he couldn't use wood release? :D

Im sure he possesed all elements and some KKG(at least Mokuton, Yoton, my opinion)
Well. I guess or maybe he had something like option b...
 

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dude he must have been crazy strong for he soloed the jubi xd
 
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- Hashirama first had it restrained. Obito simply took advantage (oh this was an injured obito also)..

- Did you not see it go wild, the moment it came on the field?

As i said becoming the Jinchuriki of the juubi is not something a feat only rikudou can accomplish.


Well considering the fact that the Sharingan and Wood style are the weaknesses for any tailed beast I don't think it's fair to compare that to the SO6P doing it when he didn't have either.. Also not to mention he took on a FULL powered 10 tails.

OT: I think the SO6P pre-jin is probably as powerful as Hashirama and Madara combined.
 
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Well considering the fact that the Sharingan and Wood style are the weaknesses for any tailed beast I don't think it's fair to compare that to the SO6P doing it when he didn't have either.. Also not to mention he took on a FULL powered 10 tails.

OT: I think the SO6P pre-jin is probably as powerful as Hashirama and Madara combined.

Hashiramas Sage Mode + Mokuton(Hashirama) + Madara and his rinnegan < pre-juubi jin Rikudo.
But not by a large difference tough, since, according to Madara, 2 Rinnegan and Mokuton was enough to take Juubito down.
 

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stop listening to these fanboys for heavens sake, kingfapirama and his hashish worship, as well as madara drools and his constant licking of paper inks thats shaped like madara

Pre-Jin SO6P was beyond Madara or Hashirama, he was and is considered the Kami of NV, hes feats are incomparable thus far, he created the Moon for heavens sake

what most people fail to realize is that Hashirama and Madara are mere fractions of the younger and elder sons powers, there is little doubt the younger son was several times stronger, more knowledgeable than hashi, as was the elder son compared to shitdara

SO6P Was the combination of the elder and younger son - and his pre-jubi chakra was strong enough to create the moon, imagine what he could accomplish WITH the jubi!
 
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Despite of being super old this dude created moon when he was in near death state(No need to mention about Juubis extraction:yeah:). Comparing likes of Madara and Hashirama with him is an insult and it should be considered as character bashing.
 
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I say he was on juubito level probably. He was stronger than Madara with 1 eye rinnegan and sagemode, that's clear. And he took on the full juubi, I think no one is able to do that atm except juubijins. Also ceating the moon is just OP
 

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Yeah he was probably stronger that SM Hashirama and one Jin. Madara.
 
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