How strong was Rikudo before he becames Jubi Jin. ?

[Silver Wolf]

Well, the sage could've used mokuton once he became a jinchuuriki... Since wood style came from the juubi.

Yes, he can use Mokuton, or what I like to call white Mokuton(probably more powerful than Mokuton) after he became the Juubi's jinchuriki, but before he probably didn't have Mokuton

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Yes, he can use Mokuton, or what I like to call white Mokuton(probably more powerful than Mokuton) after he became the Juubi's jinchuriki, but before he probably didn't have Mokuton

Can people stop inventing feats for the sage?

 

[xcoyote]

Can people stop inventing feats for the sage?

He didnt invent shit,he said after the sage became the Juubi's Jin he could use Mokuton which is true.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

He didnt invent shit,he said after the sage became the Juubi's Jin he could use Mokuton which is true.

Then show me the scan. SHow me the manga evidence. Show me literaly any proof from the manga.

 

[xcoyote]

Then show me the scan. SHow me the manga evidence. Show me literaly any proof from the manga.

Not gonna bother you are biased against him for whatever reasons.
He was the Jin of a ****ing Tree yet he couldnt use Mokuton?
The same Mokuton Obito used with the God tree as a medium,yeah keep telling yourself that.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Not gonna bother you are biased against him for whatever reasons.
He was the Jin of a ****ing Tree yet he couldnt use Mokuton?
The same Mokuton Obito used with the God tree as a medium,yeah keep telling yourself that.

Obito being able to use Mokuton through the Juubi is not proof that Hagoromo could use Mokuton. Obito had Mokuton allready. He was Channeling his own techniques through the Juubi.
Also, The Shinju Being a tree does not mean that it is connected to mokuton in any way. Yes, i belive the theorys that it is and all that blah blah blah. But just having what used to be a tree inside you does not give you mokuton.

And i am biased towards Hagoromo because of his fans who invent feats for him.

 

[KidGamer65]

He created the moon before he sealed the Gedo Mazo inside it LOL

Lmao, tell me more about how he trapped the Mazo using Chibaku Tensei while it was inside of his body....

Read the manga.

 

[DanielSturridge]

He didnt invent shit,he said after the sage became the Juubi's Jin he could use Mokuton which is true.

That's not a fact, you're reading too many sir derp poopito theories. it ain't even proven yet

 

[Seventh Sama]

Lmao, tell me more about how he trapped the Mazo using Chibaku Tensei while it was inside of his body....

Read the manga.

What do u think how powerful pre jin sage is?

 

[KidGamer65]

What do u think how powerful pre jin sage is?

Stronger than SM Rinnegan Madara by far...and Madara was the strongest Non Juubi Jin Shinobi.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Stronger than SM Rinnegan Madara by far...and Madara was the strongest Non Juubi Jin Shinobi.

So basically double rinnegan sm madara? Since both eyes are needed for full power

 

[kunde]

Enough to defeat Juubi and seal it inside him?

 

[Silver Wolf]

Can people stop inventing feats for the sage?

I didn't invent anything, I said that once Rikudou became the Juubi's jinchurki he was able to use the white Mokuton, since the colour of Mokuton is white when used by Obito, Zetsu or a Juubi's junchuriki. The Mokuton used by Hashirama, Madara, Danzo and Yamato is the normal brown colour. And you can't counter the argument of the sage being able to use Mokuton, so shut up you Obito fanboy

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

I didn't invent anything, I said that once Rikudou became the Juubi's jinchurki he was able to use the white Mokuton, since the colour of Mokuton is white when used by Obito, Zetsu or a Juubi's junchuriki. The Mokuton used by Hashirama, Madara, Danzo and Yamato is the normal brown colour. And you can't counter the argument of the sage being able to use Mokuton, so shut up you Obito fanboy

I allready countered the argument for the sgae using Mokuton.
You did invent it, You not only created a new kind of Mokuton, You said that it was stronger than normal for no reason.
Yes, i am an obito fanboy. You are a sage Fanboy. Does any of that matter?

 

[Seventh Sama]

I allready countered the argument for the sgae using Mokuton.
You did invent it, You not only created a new kind of Mokuton, You said that it was stronger than normal for no reason.
Yes, i am an obito fanboy. You are a sage Fanboy. Does any of that matter?

Well, It seems jinchuuriki get the same power as their bijuu(e.g gaara's sand from shukaku, roshi has son goku's lava style). since the sage was the Juubi's jin for the rest of his lifetime after he sealed it, he must've at least gain the ability to use mokuton. so its not a far fetched possibility...

 

[Silver Wolf]

I allready countered the argument for the sgae using Mokuton.
You did invent it, You not only created a new kind of Mokuton, You said that it was stronger than normal for no reason.
Yes, i am an obito fanboy. You are a sage Fanboy. Does any of that matter?

Again, I didn't invent anything, I only called it white Mokuton so that you don't get confused, and it is stronger than the normal one since the source is the Juubi, but yeah I guess I should call it Mokuton.

And i'm not a sage fanboy, how can I be if said character hasn't appeared yet, but you are an Obito fanboy I saw you in many threads claiming that Obito>NV, so why am I even taking you seriously

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Well, It seems jinchuuriki get the same power as their bijuu(e.g gaara's sand from shukaku, roshi has son goku's lava style). since the sage was the Juubi's jin for the rest of his lifetime after he sealed it, he must've at least gain the ability to use mokuton. so its not a far fetched possibility...

No, it isn't. It is possible.

However, We dont know how long he was the jinchuriki for. For all we know, he spent a day as the jinchuriki before he got bored, split it into the bijuu and sealed the Mazo in the moon. All we know about that feat was that he did it on his death bed. Who says he wasn't dying of Bijuu Extraction? He could have sealed it, Immediately split it into the bijuu, Created the moon and Died.
Just because he appeared old doesn't mean he actually was. Tsunade looks much older than 50 when she is out of chakra. Nagato looked old when he was out of chakra. It could just mean he was out of chakra from all the Bijuu making and Moon sealing.

Anyway, Regardless of whether he has SM after becoming the Juubi Jinchuriki, he Definately didn't before, which is what we are talking about.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Again, I didn't invent anything, I only called it white Mokuton so that you don't get confused, and it is stronger than the normal one since the source is the Juubi, but yeah I guess I should call it Mokuton.

And i'm not a sage fanboy, how can I be if said character hasn't appeared yet, but you are an Obito fanboy I saw you in many threads claiming that Obito>NV, so why am I even taking you seriously

Well done. You avoided confusing me by adding a confusing element to the discussion and not mentioning it. Bravo.

In my opinion, Anyone who invents feats for the sage is a sage fanboy. Without manga proof, the sage does not have mokuton, and it's as simple as that.

I have never claimed that Obito > NV.

 

[Silver Wolf]

Well done. You avoided confusing me by adding a confusing element to the discussion and not mentioning it. Bravo.

In my opinion, Anyone who invents feats for the sage is a sage fanboy. Without manga proof, the sage does not have mokuton, and it's as simple as that.

I have never claimed that Obito > NV.

Okay, he didn't had Mokuton nor did he had SM, only Rinnegan, Yin-Yang and Sealing(only one). But still this is enough to make him the most powerful non-juubi jinchuriki shinobi.

And you did say that Obito>NV, but not directly, since you claimed many times that Obito beats SM Hashi and double Rinnegan SM Madara

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Okay, he didn't had Mokuton nor did he had SM, only Rinnegan, Yin-Yang and Sealing(only one). But still this is enough to make him the most powerful non-juubi jinchuriki shinobi.

And you did say that Obito>NV, but not directly, since you claimed many times that Obito beats SM Hashi and double Rinnegan SM Madara

I never said the sage wasn't powerfull.
I never said double Rinnegan SM Madara. But i stand by my claim that Obito could beat Hashirama. Because he can.