How strong is Hashirama genjutsu?

[super michael]

As we know Hashirama is the only known Ashura reincarnate to even have genjutsu, we know Hashirama has genjutsu since he used it against the 3rd Hokage while nerfed due to Orochimaru weaker Edo Tensei at the time.

I wonder how strong Hashirama genjutsu is.

 

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Advance Chakra Control.

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At age 13, Sakura displays excellent Chakra control over her feets, being able to run up a Tree while Naruto and the prodigy Sasuke couldn't. She achieved this level of skill without a Problem and Kakashi praised her and said she is the closest to Kage Level.

At the age of 15 her CC Advanced that much that she learned CES.

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Took on multiple Juubi Clones at once

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Sakura displayed the ability to single-handedly defeat dozens of Juubi clones even before Hinata managed to defeat a single one. This displays her as genius in her abilities compared to her classmate. She already makes all her teammates pale in comparison.

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Byakugou

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Sakura obtained Byakugou at the age of 17 under the training of the strongest Sannin Tsunade. The Byakugou is not only a regeneration technique but according to the Databook it enhances the speed and strength of the user. So it's surpassing Hashirama's SM.

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Usually during the process of obtaining the Byakugou Seal the user is put in a huge nerf. The user has to divide her chakra and send some of it to the seal for years! And yet Sakura managed to beat Sasori low-med diff

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Excellent Genjutsu Skills

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Already in Part 1 Sakura was praised for her Genjutsu Skills. During the Chunin Exams Kabuto used an A Rank Genjutsu on high class shinobis and Sakura was one of the few people being immune to this Genjutsu. In Part 2 she easily countered Itachi's Finger genjutsu unlike Naruto who went through toture porn.

In Addition Shikamaru stated that Sakura is completely immune to genjutsu in the Last.

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Strongest Kunoichi

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Sakura is the most powerful Kunoichi in her generation. After surpassing the Senju Queen Tsunade herself Sakura was stated by the writers of the last that she surpassed Tsunade who was the strongest during her reign.

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Katsuyu
Sakura can summon the most powerful Summon Katsuyu. Katsuyu can be used to either attack the opponent, to distract him, to heal yourself or support your Team. Katsuyu comes from one of the three legendary places. Which means she knows the secrets of Slug Sage Mode.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Stronger than Tsukuyomi but weaker than Jiraiya´ s toad genjutsu used on Pain.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

naruto also has one genjutsu feat via frog song but his genjutsu is as kurenai's genjutsu feats.

 

[Nattana]

1% power Edo Hashirama negged Hiruzen with Genjutsu.

I think this says enough.

 

[super michael]

naruto also has one genjutsu feat via frog song but his genjutsu is as kurenai's genjutsu feats.

That feat would be the frog and not Naruto himself. Jiraiya can't do genjutsu, doesn't mean he can do genjutsu just because his frog can.

Hashirama must have a high level of intelligence to be able to cast genjutsu, at least from what we heard from Jiraiya. Only those with high level intelligence can use genjutsu, since it requires controlling the 5 senses of their opponent.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

That feat would be the frog and not Naruto himself. Jiraiya can't do genjutsu, doesn't mean he can do genjutsu just because his frog can.

Jiraiya can use a paralysis genjutsu while the frogs have sage song. But if you don't want to give Naruto feats through his summoning jutsu then you are right.

Hashirama must have a high level of intelligence to be able to cast genjutsu, at least from what we heard from Jiraiya. Only those with high level intelligence can use genjutsu, since it requires controlling the 5 senses of their opponent.

This is where you are wrong. Hashirama is not intelligent, he's an idiot like Tobirama said and he only has only one genjutus feat.
High intellect has little to nothing to do with your genjutsu and for the most part like I said, Hashirama is not smart.

 

[ImmortalRegis]

Wouldnt say its strong since it does nothing but blinds the opponent

 

[Amenotejikara]

That feat would be the frog and not Naruto himself. Jiraiya can't do genjutsu, doesn't mean he can do genjutsu just because his frog can.

Hashirama must have a high level of intelligence to be able to cast genjutsu, at least from what we heard from Jiraiya. Only those with high level intelligence can use genjutsu, since it requires controlling the 5 senses of their opponent.

:lol doesn't that same logic apply to naruto using kurama


-yes his gen is very effective and underrated.

 

[Warlocks]

naruto has one of strongets genjutsu aka tnj

 

[Uchihauzamakibarrage]

Stronger than 100 Hinata's

 

[super michael]

Jiraiya can use a paralysis genjutsu while the frogs have sage song. But if you don't want to give Naruto feats through his summoning jutsu then you are right.

This is where you are wrong. Hashirama is not intelligent, he's an idiot like Tobirama said and he only has only one genjutus feat.
High intellect has little to nothing to do with your genjutsu and for the most part like I said, Hashirama is not smart.

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Naruto was interested in learning Genjutsu here in the previous page

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but Jiraiya says it requires high intellect for genjutsu and Naruto wasn't a genjutsu type

Weird Jiraiya says one needs to be intelligent to be able to use genjutsu, which Hashirama shown to have genjutsu. But at the same time Tobirama states that Hashirama is an idiot.

Either Jiraiya is wrong or Tobirama is wrong.

 

[kiiro]

Wtf man. Hashirama doesn't have genjutsu since he doesn't have YING release.

It was a mistake of Kishimoto and he corrected in the anime.

 

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Advance Chakra Control.

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At age 13, Sakura displays excellent Chakra control over her feets, being able to run up a Tree while Naruto and the prodigy Sasuke couldn't. She achieved this level of skill without a Problem and Kakashi praised her and said she is the closest to Kage Level.

At the age of 15 her CC Advanced that much that she learned CES.

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Took on multiple Juubi Clones at once

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Sakura displayed the ability to single-handedly defeat dozens of Juubi clones even before Hinata managed to defeat a single one. This displays her as genius in her abilities compared to her classmate. She already makes all her teammates pale in comparison.

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Byakugou

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Sakura obtained Byakugou at the age of 17 under the training of the strongest Sannin Tsunade. The Byakugou is not only a regeneration technique but according to the Databook it enhances the speed and strength of the user. So it's surpassing Hashirama's SM.

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Usually during the process of obtaining the Byakugou Seal the user is put in a huge nerf. The user has to divide her chakra and send some of it to the seal for years! And yet Sakura managed to beat Sasori low-med diff

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Excellent Genjutsu Skills

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Already in Part 1 Sakura was praised for her Genjutsu Skills. During the Chunin Exams Kabuto used an A Rank Genjutsu on high class shinobis and Sakura was one of the few people being immune to this Genjutsu. In Part 2 she easily countered Itachi's Finger genjutsu unlike Naruto who went through toture porn.

In Addition Shikamaru stated that Sakura is completely immune to genjutsu in the Last.

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Strongest Kunoichi

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Sakura is the most powerful Kunoichi in her generation. After surpassing the Senju Queen Tsunade herself Sakura was stated by the writers of the last that she surpassed Tsunade who was the strongest during her reign.

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BONUS

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Katsuyu
Sakura can summon the most powerful Summon Katsuyu. Katsuyu can be used to either attack the opponent, to distract him, to heal yourself or support your Team. Katsuyu comes from one of the three legendary places. Which means she knows the secrets of Slug Sage Mode.

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Fourth Databook proof!!!

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Translation: Hiruzen earned the title of professor for being a researcher. He was trained by both Hashirama and Tobirama, as the man that would succeed them. At a young age he showed greater talent than Tobirama. Ability in all Five Nature Alterations, Ability in all Hiden (clan techniques), Genjutsu, Ability in all Ninjutsu existing in Konoha which explains his reputation as the professor. His title of Professor is no joke, hence the essence of Hiruzen is his talent with ninjutsu. Everyone in the village is his family member

5 Elements - Not even his full power???

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Since Hiruzen was revived at old age, his chakra and power should be as low as before but wait... Tobirama states that the Hokage have been revived "close to original power" this means Hiruzen was revived weaker then he was alive at old age yet he was able to produce the 5 Elements at such mastery that it was even capable of stalemating the Buddha Statue while the 5 Kage couldn't. Just imagine his Prime.

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Hiruzen knows and could perform all non KKG Hidden Leaf Jutsu which equals = The use of the Ino–Shika–Chō at will with Kage Bunshin

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Broken Ninjutsu versatility

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Hiruzen utilizing the Inuzuka Clan's ability of an enhanced sense of smell to catch the 2 Hokage in complete darkness.

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Hidden Leaf Tech

Bringer of Darkness, Great Clone Explosion
Water Clone Technique
Water Release: Water Colliding Wave
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Trumpet
Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique
Earth Release: Multiple Earth-Style Wall (Anime only)
Eight Gates
Evil Sealing Method
Eye Mind Reading
Front Lotus
Lion Combo
Multiple Shadow Clone Technique
One Thousand Years of Death
Shadow Clone Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Water Needle
Shadow of the Dancing Leaf
Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique
Wind Release: Great Breakthrough


Sarutobi Clan
Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning
Fire Release: Great Flame Technique
Earth Release Shadow Clone
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth Dragon Bullet
Earth Release: Earth Flow River
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Roof Tile Shuriken
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique


Izunaka Clan
Beast Human Clone
Dynamic Marking
Fang Passing Fang
Fang Rotating Fang (Manga only) - Capable of crushing stone
Fang Wolf Fang - The power is great enough to dent a Rashōmon gate
Four Legs Technique
Human Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf
Passing Fang

Akimichi clan
Butterfly Bullet Bombing
Calorie Control
Double Human Bullet Tank
Human Bullet Tank
Multi-Size Technique
Partial Multi-Size Technique
Spiked Human Bullet Tank
Super Multi-Size Technique
Super Open Hand Slap

Nara clan
Black Spider Lily
Shadow Gathering Technique
Shadow Imitation Shuriken Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Shadow Sewing Technique
Shadow–Neck Binding Technique

Yamanaka Clan
Mind Body Disturbance Technique
Mind Body Switch Technique
Mind Clone Switch Technique
Mind Disturbance Dance Performance Technique (Anime only)
Mind Puppet Switch Cursed Seal Technique
Yamanaka Clan Telepathy

Uchiha Clan
Fire Release: Dragon Flame Release Song Technique
Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Fire Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Flower Nail Crimson
Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades

Uzumaki Clan

Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Five Elements Unseal

OP Summoning Monkey King Enma

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The Third hokage's comrade in arms, the monkey king enma's transformation jutsu Characterized by the hardness of diamond and its at-will extensibility, Kongou Nyoi-Bou is Sandaime's"weapon of choice", so to speak and with it in hand he's made it through a world of war for an extended period of time.

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Enma is capable of using Transformation: Adamantine Staff, which allows him to turn into a extending and expanding staff that is as hard as adamantine, capable of cutting through the Shinju branches easily. By extending in staff form, Enma can even push Kurama out of Konoha rather easily. He is also able to produce various body parts, such as eyes or arms, from the staff. Additionally, Enma can still move on his own in the staff form, allowing him to return to Hiruzen. Enma can even clone himself in his staff form, turning him into any number of smaller staffs that he uses for Adamantine Prison Wall, a move that can even protect against Hashirama Senju's Wood Release techniques.

Durability Feats - Super Kage Bunshin???

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Hiruzen has shown to have excellent durability feats at age 69 with his Kage Bunshin as one of his clones was stabbed by Hashirama with 4 Kunai in the chest yet did not disperse until Hiruzen was done with it. He was also able to hold Orochimaru's soul for an hour long despite being stabbed through the chest by the Sword of Kusangi.

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Dangerous CQC

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]Even past his Prime, Hiruzen had showed excellent Close Quarter Combat skills. Moments after sealing parts of his soul away to seal the Edo Hokage and exhausting his remaining Chakra on Kage Bunshin, he was still able to easily disarm Orochimaru from his Sword of Kusangi with great ease and catch him to prepare his sealing Jutsu. He was also able to easily break through the Shinju branches and save Naruto despite Tobirama and Minato unable to get through.

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Intelligence "The Professor"

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Having been around the previous 3 Shinobi World War, Hiruzen's knowledge and experience in all forms of Shinobi combat are unparalleled. Although brief, we only get to see a glimpse of "The Professor"

One great example would include when Hiruzen combined the Reaper Death Seal with Kage Bunshin to try and seal multiple souls at once. This was a genius move because it would help delay the sealing of his own soul enough to go after Orochimaru's soul next.

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The last time we see a glimpse of Hiruzen's intelligence was when he personally engages Obito so that nobody needs to put their lives at risk, taking advantage of the fact that he's already dead to analyse Obito's abilities. By observing Obito's Truth-Seeking Balls with his specialty, the Shuriken Kage Bunshin, he theorizes that they are similar to the Third Tsuchikage's kekkei tōta in that they are a combination of multiple nature transformations. He also postulates that the Truth-Seeking Balls have limits to the duration of their malleability, but his upper body is destroyed immediately after that. He was able to deduce the Truth-Seeking Balls, (a technique that is beyond Shinobi knowledge) in mere seconds after seeing it

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Further Hype and Testimonials

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Orochimaru admitting that he would be killed by a 59 year old Hiruzen.

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Danzo in his dying moments admitting inferiority despite possessing Izanagi, Kotoamatsukami and Hashirama's DNA.

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Kabuto, a spy who has spied on and knows all about the Shinobi countries states that an old Hiruzen was stronger then all the 5 Kage at the time. Just imagine his Prime.

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Even with the entire SA and 5 Kage, Shikamaru states that only Hiruzen could contend with Guruguru at the time.

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Considers himself to be the strongest in his group which also included Tobirama. Confident enough to take on the entire Kinkaku and survive.

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Extra Databook Hype

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"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.

Databook 1, Page 117

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

Databook 1, Page 119

"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.

DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:

Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

"Hiruzen in his Prime was able to counter every Leaf Jutsu in Existance including all MS and EMS skills." DB2 Pg 84

Konohamaru paragraph:

Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

He who even holds the affectionate name of "Professor," being well-versed in every jutsu that exists in the village of Konohagakure

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[Rikudou Tobi]

Here is the chapter to use genjutsu requires a high level of intellect

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Naruto was interested in learning Genjutsu here in the previous page

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but Jiraiya says it requires high intellect for genjutsu and Naruto wasn't a genjutsu type

Weird Jiraiya says one needs to be intelligent to be able to use genjutsu, which Hashirama shown to have genjutsu. But at the same time Tobirama states that Hashirama is an idiot.

Either Jiraiya is wrong or Tobirama is wrong.

Jiraiya is wrong. I think Tobirama would know more about Hashirama then anybody else.

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On top of that Hashirama's databook confirmed that he's not a skilled genjutsu user just like naruto too.

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What I think is that Hashirama learned that one genjutsu feat just like how naruto learned how to break out of genjutsus, but their overall genjutsu game is not that excellent to be called a intellectual person. We know some none intellectual people (2nd mizukage) who has one of the best non ocular genjutsu in the series. I feel like jiraiya was just talking because he openly admitted to the sage frogs that he's not really good at genjutsu and he had that one paralysis genjutsu technique

 

[Mellanoma]

Stronger than Tsukuyomi but weaker than Jiraiya´ s toad genjutsu used on Pain.

lmao... Sig worthy