[Discussion] How strong is Charlotte Perospero

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How strong is he exactly??
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While katakuri may have been the perfect mentor like villain I believe Perospero was a truly amazing character/villian for the big mom pirates. He is easily my second favorite member (after katakuri). Perospero strength however is a little hard to gouge. He is strong without a doubt, as he tanked a point blank explosion (similar to what nami tanked while in sanji body on punk hazard) and while suffering serious injuries got up and still kept trying to go after the straw hats for hours without stopping. His candy fruit is interesting to say the least. He's grown limbs with it, and has turned inanimate objects into candy as well. In terms of durability (aside from the explosion) he easily shrugged off the vinesmoke with super human strength.

At first I thought his devil fruit would be boring but he has shown to be such a craftsman with it. He literally cloned cesars lab in punk hazard (how did they know this btw?? Pudding???). His candy is strong enough to immobilize the likes of the vinesmoke family and even Capone castle form (a form that tanked an attack from big mom herself). How he uses his cane indicates that he is somewhat proficient in sword/cane combat as he was able to block Pedro sword attacks with little to no difficulty.


So my question is where would you rank someone like him? I mean hes not a sweet commander however he was considered to be a monster, and was compared to the likes of Katakuri and smoothie (there were a lot of monsters/siblings in big moms crew but these two were mentioned specifically). He also is the leader of totland (minister of candy or something) and was seen giving orders to smoothie (who complied) despite her being a higher rank than him. I believe he is as strong as sweet commander (somewhere between cracker and snack) but due to him always being in the island makes his bounty significantly lower then the others. It is also important to note that his candy didn't dissolve in sea water. This is interesting considering a lot of df's that has clashed with something sea like (jinbe fishman karate) usually gets negated.


Ok enough rambling which fighter do you think pespero can solo at high difficulty and another who you think he can no diff.
 

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chump level lol. I'm kidding, partially, but I mean if put against the SH's where all were involved he'd probably go against Usopp or Brook? Possibly Franky or Robin. Just my gut reaction.
 

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Idk but I'd be interested to hear some scenarios. I picked Usopp and Brook for a few reasons. Brook bar gear 2nd is arguably the 2nd fastest SH and Pero had a good speed feat in blocking Pedro's speed. So a question to ask is who is faster, Brook or Pedro? I bring up Usopp because like Pero he has also shown insane durability. It'd be curious to see who's durability is better.

As for the offense, Pero would have some issue to overcome. Would his candy be fast enough to cover the range between him and Usopps sniping? His candy is weak to fire, a predominant part of Usopps arsenal. Usopps also tricky so we can assume he'd get out of a candy trap at least once.

As for Brook. Again, the speed, would he be quick enough to catch him in candy? If he did what would happen? Brooks not like normal people so he couldn't be turned into candy, he won't die I wouldn't think.

He is great with his candy fruit but how is he in direct physical combat?

I don't think he'd beat Franky or Robin.
 

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He could immobilize Chopper and Brook too, and it seems he's free to kill anyone who can't break free. It's just that it's so hard to know how much effort it takes for him to get to that point. He could only catch the Vinsmokes because of a trap & Chopper and Brook were caught after beating up a lot of soldiers even despite Pero being near. Imo, that makes him weaker than half of the Strawhats because it's his only offense yet is still so unreliable.

Only Strawhats I see him beating with ease are Chopper if Monster Point isn't too strong, Robin, and Franky if his lasers don't generate heat.
 

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chump level lol. I'm kidding, partially, but I mean if put against the SH's where all were involved he'd probably go against Usopp or Brook? Possibly Franky or Robin. Just my gut reaction.
Umm honestly for straw hats not including jinbe id think hed merk them all save for sanji zoro and luffy
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Idk but I'd be interested to hear some scenarios. I picked Usopp and Brook for a few reasons. Brook bar gear 2nd is arguably the 2nd fastest SH and Pero had a good speed feat in blocking Pedro's speed. So a question to ask is who is faster, Brook or Pedro? I bring up Usopp because like Pero he has also shown insane durability. It'd be curious to see who's durability is better.

As for the offense, Pero would have some issue to overcome. Would his candy be fast enough to cover the range between him and Usopps sniping? His candy is weak to fire, a predominant part of Usopps arsenal. Usopps also tricky so we can assume he'd get out of a candy trap at least once.

As for Brook. Again, the speed, would he be quick enough to catch him in candy? If he did what would happen? Brooks not like normal people so he couldn't be turned into candy, he won't die I wouldn't think.

He is great with his candy fruit but how is he in direct physical combat?

I don't think he'd beat Franky or Robin.
Also sorry but sanji is faster than brook and gear 2nd but is def slower then gear 4th
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Idk but I'd be interested to hear some scenarios. I picked Usopp and Brook for a few reasons. Brook bar gear 2nd is arguably the 2nd fastest SH and Pero had a good speed feat in blocking Pedro's speed. So a question to ask is who is faster, Brook or Pedro? I bring up Usopp because like Pero he has also shown insane durability. It'd be curious to see who's durability is better.

As for the offense, Pero would have some issue to overcome. Would his candy be fast enough to cover the range between him and Usopps sniping? His candy is weak to fire, a predominant part of Usopps arsenal. Usopps also tricky so we can assume he'd get out of a candy trap at least once.

As for Brook. Again, the speed, would he be quick enough to catch him in candy? If he did what would happen? Brooks not like normal people so he couldn't be turned into candy, he won't die I wouldn't think.

He is great with his candy fruit but how is he in direct physical combat?

I don't think he'd beat Franky or Robin.
Curious as to why you think franky or Robin could beat him

His reaction speed is comparable to robins to say the least and he was able to take blows from someone who is considered superhuman (in terms of strength) with barely any visible damage. So what would robin do exactly? It's already been proven that if you can over power her the tech wouldn't work. Robin has yet to display anything along the lines of superhuman (in terms of strength). Shed be a little tricky but the dudes mass scaling with his df should be enough to put him solidly over her. Not to mention his candy was strong enough to physically bind the vinesmokes who are all genetically enhanced in different ways.

As for franky.. Honestly idk what has franky shown to be on the level of someone with a 700 million bounty tbh. Though his radical beam if landed should be able to do good damage. Though it would prob be comparable to the explosion the candy man tanked. He was able to get up from that (missing a arm which he regrew a new one made of candy)

Brook I def think has the best chance of the straw hats in beating the candy man.

Usopp he does use fire but not huge amounts of it (that's comparable to the mass amounts of candy that the candy man dishes out). Lastly the candy man has already showed that he has enough mastery of his df to bypass the sea water negation.. So with that being said unless upssop gets ace df idk how he would be able to put out enough fire before the candy man puts out a shit ton of candy.

Chopper is not worth mentioning along with nami (unless she has zues)


Lastly it should be worth mentioning that cesar was afraid af of the candy man, and luffy back at punk hazard only felt confident that sanji and zoro (of his team) should fight cesar. While that was a long time ago none of the straw hats bar brook has shown tremendous feats. They've had ok fights but no types of power ups that suggest that they could take out the candy man (in my opinion)
 
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Umm honestly for straw hats not including jinbe id think hed merk them all save for sanji zoro and luffy
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Also sorry but sanji is faster than brook and gear 2nd but is def slower then gear 4th
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Curious as to why you think franky or Robin could beat him

His reaction speed is comparable to robins to say the least and he was able to take blows from someone who is considered superhuman (in terms of strength) with barely any visible damage. So what would robin do exactly? It's already been proven that if you can over power her the tech wouldn't work. Robin has yet to display anything along the lines of superhuman (in terms of strength). Shed be a little tricky but the dudes mass scaling with his df should be enough to put him solidly over her. Not to mention his candy was strong enough to physically bind the vinesmokes who are all genetically enhanced in different ways.

As for franky.. Honestly idk what has franky shown to be on the level of someone with a 700 million bounty tbh. Though his radical beam if landed should be able to do good damage. Though it would prob be comparable to the explosion the candy man tanked. He was able to get up from that (missing a arm which he regrew a new one made of candy)

Brook I def think has the best chance of the straw hats in beating the candy man.

Usopp he does use fire but not huge amounts of it (that's comparable to the mass amounts of candy that the candy man dishes out). Lastly the candy man has already showed that he has enough mastery of his df to bypass the sea water negation.. So with that being said unless upssop gets ace df idk how he would be able to put out enough fire before the candy man puts out a shit ton of candy.

Chopper is not worth mentioning along with nami (unless she has zues)


Lastly it should be worth mentioning that cesar was afraid af of the candy man, and luffy back at punk hazard only felt confident that sanji and zoro (of his team) should fight cesar. While that was a long time ago none of the straw hats bar brook has shown tremendous feats. They've had ok fights but no types of power ups that suggest that they could take out the candy man (in my opinion)
Are you sure about that? G2 is his pure speed form and G4 was the perfect blend of power and speed. Doffy said G2 was fast enough but not strong enough, G4 kept that speed level and added some more *oomph*.

Yes Sanji is faster than Brook. Without the Gears Sanji is faster than Luffy I would argue as well. Speed wise no gears I'd place it Sanji, Brook, Luffy, Zoro, Usopp, Chopper, Robin, Franky, Nami.
Sanji - All leg training, should be obvious why at #1.
Brook - Light weight and shown speed
Luffy - all around strongest so after speed specialist is him
Zoro - next strongest so next highest speed
Usopp - Ran away a lot, fast but not super fast.
Chopper - has animal forms to be faster than normal humans
Robin - has wing mode to aid in movement
Franky - has robotics to help movement
Nami - regular person

Anyway don't sleep on Brook's speed. People always forget that aspect of him. His light weight only helps that. Who else can run across the top of water because they move so fast? Let's not forget his humming slash. Honestly Brook's whole m.o. is speed. That speed coupled with his freezing abilities are a danger.

Did you compare Franky's radical beam which is based on Pacifista lasers which in turn are based on Kizaru's DF to a bunch of dynamite? Why I think he would win is because I place him above Usopp and Brook and them and if I think they have a good chance than the people I feel are above them should as well. I think his durabiity and strength as well as his mechanical versatility would give him the edge over Pero in a 1v1. Also Franky would have multiple explosions of that level available, if one cost Pero his arm whats a few shots gonna do?

Why I think Robin would win is her reputation and despite Oda kind of low balling her lately she has a history of survival. I think she would have the experience to win. She's tricky and strong. Also is his reaction time comparable? He blocked Pedro that's his big speed feat, Robin caught Hakuba, is Pedro as fast or faster than Hakuba? Idk, I didn't see anything to imply it.

Usopp - You bring up Pero taking the hit from the Vinsmoke but may I point out part 1 Usopp was strong enough to defeat a Fishman with a rubber band and a mallet. Superhuman. Part 1 Usopp also withstood a 4-ton bat shot to the face. Superhuman. And let's be thankful he won't have intel or prep time, Usopp with prep = Batman, remember how well he took Luffy to task over the Merry.

About the Vinsmoke binding. He got them without their gear while at a disadvantage. Judge also knew they had been got iirc and told everyone to stay put because they wouldn't have been able to fight out of the room.

Luffy only wanted those two because Caesar is a Logia though...not really relevant to power.
 

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He’s not one of the 3 sweet generals but he’s got a bounty that is 100m more than the former fourth sweet general, Snack.

This could possibly mean that he is capable of being a sweet General with a huge bounty of 700 million belli.

Making him Warlord level like all the other Generals, Lead Performers, Ship Captains, and Commanders (2-5) that were and are on an Emperor’s ship.

Obviously the number Emperor First Mate/right hand man are above this level.
 
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