[Spoilers] How strong is Cavendish?

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- Simple. It's only after Gladius set that up that he remember Gladius had be doing something weird since a while, showing how careless he was
- We're talking about an attack fodder could survive... And considering his monster trio level physical strength feats, his endurance feats should be somewhere up there as well
He still hasn't shown anything that would allow him to stop Gladius from using Punk Rock Fest if they fought again. Some fodder fishman survived a Jet Pistol, which killed a Pacifista. Oda seems to be very inconsistent with fodders since there are a lot of instances where fodders survived attacks they clearly shouldn't have.
 

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Above Franky with Hakuba involved. But still not M3 lvl, he would probably give Sanji a legendary battle though but I don't think he would win.

Zoro and especially Luffy would own him though.
 

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There is a reason he was pitted against gladius in a 2 vs 1 fight and was still having a hard time launching hits on gladius who isnt even a top executive so no he is definitely weaker then sanji, I would put him above the likes of Don Sai and Franky but considerably weaker then M3 level fighters.
 

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1. Chinjao wasn't even using Hasshoken or Koka in that attack and he still had the upper hand.
Doesn't matter. It wasn't Cavendish' best attack either. They clashed equally in a physical strength context and it's all what i wanted to emphasize
2. those were 30 fodders. Sabo saw Hakuba and everyone else watching Hakuba was relatively weak compared to the M3
Still doesn't change the fact that in an entire stadium(that was watching Luffy perfectly fine) from all angles(left, right, behind, above), only few could perceive his movements and was circling around the entire time. No matter how you look at it, it's an incredible speed feat
3. Pre TS Luffy got complimented by Aokiji and Kizaru, so being complemented doesn't mean you Are at that person's level.
Depends on the type of the comment. I don't remember them complimenting his fighting capabilities. It's hype dude
4. Seriously? He remained uninjured because Bart saved him.
Would have at best being injured from carelessness, nothing more
5. Only time this happened was when Oda drew Cavendish sitting on a couch on a cover page.
And when he was clashing with Chinjao alongside Luffy. And when they used combo attacks against Doflamingo fodders, etc
6. Bullet Thread is a weak attack from Doflamingo and he was firing it from far away so not that impressive.
A singular bullet thread attack gave Law trouble on the bridge and there were multiple of them there. Distance barely matters considering Cavendish had to close distance to defend other ones himself(including Robin who could barely react) and there were multiple of them, so it required great swordsmanship skills to deflect all of them
 

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Doesn't matter. It wasn't Cavendish' best attack either. They clashed equally in a physical strength context and it's all what i wanted to emphasize
Still doesn't change the fact that in an entire stadium(that was watching Luffy perfectly fine) from all angles(left, right, behind, above), only few could perceive his movements and was circling around the entire time. No matter how you look at it, it's an incredible speed feat
Depends on the type of the comment. I don't remember them complimenting his fighting capabilities. It's hype dude
Would have at best being injured from carelessness, nothing more
And when he was clashing with Chinjao alongside Luffy. And when they used combo attacks against Doflamingo fodders, etc
A singular bullet thread attack gave Law trouble on the bridge and there were multiple of them there. Distance barely matters considering Cavendish had to close distance to defend other ones himself(including Robin who could barely react) and there were multiple of them, so it required great swordsmanship skills to deflect all of them
1. The reason why you think Cavendish clashing with Chinjao was impressive is because of Chinjao's performance during his battle with Luffy, where he did use Hasshoken and Koka. So him not using either of those when he clashed with Cavendish does matter. Despite that, Chinjao still had the upper hand and you have no proof that Blue Biken isn't Cavendish's strongest attack.
2. Brook was so fast that several fishman couldn't even see Brook's movements, but I don't see you hyping up Brook's speed.
3. Point is that if someone compliments you, it doesn't mean you are at their level. It also matters who Bastille was comparing Cavendish's swordsmanship to.
4. He never did a combo move with Luffy at the coliseum. Elizabello and Chinjao did a combo move, but Elizabello is definitely a lot weaker than Chinjao. Pre TS Luffy and Biggy did a combo move at Impel Down as well, but Pre TS Luffy is leagues above him.
5. Punk Rock Fest wasn't the only time he almost got injured. When he surprise attacked Gladius, Gladius reacted fast enough and was about to use Blackium on him, but Barto's Barrier Bulls stopped both of them from attacking each other.
6. You're ignoring the reason why Law got hit. Doflamingo had already used an attack on Law and used Bullet String on him while he was recovering. Even if Cavendish had to cover some distance, he still was able to plan out what he would do when he got there since the attack was fired far away.
 
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1. The reason why you think Cavendish clashing with Chinjao was impressive is because of Chinjao's performance during his battle with Luffy, where he did use Hasshoken and Koka. So him not using either of those when he clashed with Cavendish does matter. Despite that, Chinjao still had the upper hand and you have no proof that Blue Biken isn't Cavendish's strongest attack.
2. Brook was so fast that sever fishman couldn't even see Brook's movements, but I don't see you hyping up Brook's
speed.
3. Point is that if someone compliments you, it doesn't mean you aware at their level. It also matters who Bastille was comparing Cavendish's swordsmanship to.
4. He never did a combo move with Luffy at the coliseum. Elizabello and Chinjao did a combo move, but Elizabello is definitely a lot weaker than Chinjao.
5. Punk Rock Fest wasn't the only time he almost got injured. When he surprise attacked Gladius, Gladius reacted fast enough and was about to use Blackium on him, but Barto's Barrier Bulls stopped both of them from attacking each other.
6. You're ignoring the reason why Law got hit. Doflamingo had already used an attack on Law and used Bullet String on him while he was recovering. Even if Cavendish had to cover some distance, he still was able to plan out what he would do when he got there since the attack was fired far away.
You shouldn't have bothered to respond when he tried to imply Cavendish was better than Law for countering Bullet String.
 
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