[Spoilers] How strong is Cavendish?

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-> He matched Chinjao's physical head strength(someone gear second Luffy couldn't hurt and required a new techniques from his strongest physical mode, gear3 to break) holding him up with all his weigth
-> Blitzed an entire stadium in Hakuba mode as fast as a yonkou commander, so fast practically no one saw him
-> Got hyped by a marine HQ vice-admiral for his genius and skills in swordsplay and even by Sabo who was even more impressed than the rumors when in Hakuba mode
-> Only one who remained uninjured among the coloseum guys even after one shotting one of the strongest executives in Hakuba mode
-> Constantly portrayed alongside Luffy and sometimes Zoro or Law during the arc
-> Completely and easily blocked a named attack from Doflamingo in this chapter(bullet string) with another one(Precious metalax) and is trusted enough to protect Kyros, Robin, Law

And he has yet to control Hakuba with probably more to come. So is Cavendish really as weak as some people here claim or are they finally going to accept Cavendish/Hakuba is in the monster trio level range?
 
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I admit that he's stronger than I initially thought but I guess it's a bit early to judge his actual level.

IMO He's around Sanji's level.
 

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Nah, he's not Monster Trio level. Rebecca could track Hakuba, so the Monster Trio definitely can. If Rebecca can move just barely enough to avoid his slash, the Monster Trio can avoid him completely. Hell, even Robin was able to intercept him, though Cavendish could have played a roll in that.

Gladius would have killed him if not for Bartolomeo.
 

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He's strong but I don't think he's M3 level. He is definitely stronger than Gladius though ;) His feat with the latest chapter was nice but not enough to place him on M3. IMO
 

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You're hyping him to much, Rebecka who is fodder blocked his attack, Robin negged Hakuba but tbh i do think he is around Sanji or Smoker lvl and i do like him alot more after the latest chapter :D
 

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Sanji? Lolololol no.Sanji is the second fastest strawhat after luffy hakuba ain't near his league. Saying that he's equal to Sanji is like putting him next to luffy or zoro Which is completely illogical. Vergo puts chinjao and everyone from the DD family to shame even pica......and sanji was pretty much ***** slapping him with an injured body and no haki usage so no.

OT:meh he's as strong as captain kid or something probably
 
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He's definitely not Sanji/M3 level- (nothing new seeing certain people trying to downplay Sanji ;))

However, he is strong and i hope Oda gives him more time to show himself so the crap with calling him weak after the thing with Robin can stop. In the end, he is by far the best character introduced in this arc imo and let's hope we will see more of him in the future!
 

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Gladius is stronger, that's why he almost killed him.
I was waiting for your bs answer and as expected it ended up bs. How can Gladius almost kill someone when we're not even certain it would have done squat despite using a back-up plan he couldn't have set up under normal means and Cavendish remained unharmed during the entire conflict? Lol
 

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I was waiting for your bs answer and as expected it ended up bs. How can Gladius almost kill someone when we're not even certain it would have done squat despite using a back-up plan he couldn't have set up under normal means and Cavendish remained unharmed during the entire conflict? Lol
Better than your weak Cavendish hype. He set it up fairly during their fight and Cavendish remained unharmed because Bart had to save his ass.
 

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-> He matched Chinjao's physical head strength(someone gear second Luffy couldn't hurt and required a new techniques from his strongest physical mode, gear3 to break) holding him up with all his weigth
-> Blitzed an entire stadium in Hakuba mode as fast as a yonkou commander, so fast practically no one saw him
-> Got hyped by a marine HQ vice-admiral for his genius and skills in swordsplay and even by Sabo who was even more impressed than the rumors when in Hakuba mode
-> Only one who remained uninjured among the coloseum guys even after one shotting one of the strongest executives in Hakuba mode
-> Constantly portrayed alongside Luffy and sometimes Zoro or Law during the arc
-> Completely and easily blocked a named attack from Doflamingo in this chapter(bullet string) with another one(Precious metalax) and is trusted enough to protect Kyros, Robin, Law

And he has yet to control Hakuba with probably more to come. So is Cavendish really as weak as some people here claim or are they finally going to accept Cavendish/Hakuba is in the monster trio level range?
1. Chinjao wasn't even using Hasshoken or Koka in that attack and he still had the upper hand.
2. those were 30 fodders. Sabo saw Hakuba and everyone else watching Hakuba was relatively weak compared to the M3
3. Pre TS Luffy got complimented by Aokiji and Kizaru, so being complemented doesn't mean you Are at that person's level.
4. Seriously? He remained uninjured because Bart saved him.
5. Only time this happened was when Oda drew Cavendish sitting on a couch on a cover page.
6. Bullet Thread is a weak attack from Doflamingo and he was firing it from far away so not that impressive.
 

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Better than your weak Cavendish hype. He set it up fairly during their fight and Cavendish remained unharmed because Bart had to save his ass.
Fairly? Cavendish didn't even know what he was doing because he was careless. It's not a feat to injure a ground level combattant while setting up the entire floor with bombs when he is careless. Any other ground level combattant would have been injured by that attack. Wouldn't mean Gladius is at that level. He has a partner who could use barriers. Obviously it's better to rely on him. Doesn't mean he had no other choice if he wasn't there
 

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Fairly? Cavendish didn't even know what he was doing because he was careless. It's not a feat to injure a ground level combattant while setting up the entire floor with bombs when he is careless. Any other ground level combattant would have been injured by that attack. Wouldn't mean Gladius is at that level. He has a partner who could use barriers. Obviously it's better to rely on him. Doesn't mean he had no other choice if he wasn't there
Any proof that he was careless instead of just simply getting outclassed? He never showed any endurance to suggest that he could fight after getting hit Punk Rock Fest.
 

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Any proof that he was careless instead of just simply getting outclassed? He never showed any endurance to suggest that he could fight after getting hit Punk Rock Fest.
- Simple. It's only after Gladius set that up that he remember Gladius had be doing something weird since a while, showing how careless he was
- We're talking about an attack fodder could survive... And considering his monster trio level physical strength feats, his endurance feats should be somewhere up there as well
 
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