How strong is base Gai

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Let be real, in base how good he is really?

Who the strongest opponent he can defeat in base, because it just occur to me that i dont think he all that in base.
 

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Base Gai is fodder. All he's got is some Taijutsu like Dynamic entry, shunshin, & a turtle summon.

He'd get rekt by most Shippuden ninja

Edit:Forgot he solo's with Nunchaku ignore most of the above.
 

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Base Gai handled Obito's Kamui phasing/warp touching in CQC far better than Minato did. Minato was captured by young Obito's chain and had to use Hiraishin to dodge ( ) (and at that point he already knew that his opponent was able to phase through attacks), base Gai could jump in a fight between adult Obito and KCM Naruto saving Naruto at the last moment ( ) and fending off Obito that couldn't literally put a finger to him due to Gai's reflexes and taijutsu skill ( )( )( ). He countered Obito's CQC Kamui and even took the luxury to fight off Obito with his back turned. Obito was making child's play of KCM Naruto.

Base Gai could react to Obito's Kamui warp (of one of his nunchaku) and move during the time of the warp (Minato barely managed to activate Hiraishin and teleport away in the same time) ( ).

Gates enhance physical speed and strength by removing the body's limiters, they don't enhance reflexes. Base Gai is able to react to his own speed in Gates, even 6th (that blitzes Kisame and counterblitzes Sharingan and Rinnegan enhanced V2 jinchuriki) and 7th Gate (that pressures Juudara far more than SM Minato did), and even 8th Gate too (that blitzes Juudara and even reaches a speed high enough that his movement bends the surrounding space).

Gai's base strength casually destroys concrete ( )( ) and with his nunchaku he literallu pulverizes giant boulders like they were nothing, impressing Obito ( ). His skill is such that he can disarm Kisame from the Samehada using his ****ing legs ( ); please note that the Shoten clone wasn't Kisame at 30% of his general power, but Kisame with the same strength, jutsu, speed, smartness, durability and whatever the original had, he just had 30% of the chakra of the true Kisame.

His speed, reflexes and physical strength are over the roof even in base, obviously he is not as fast and powerful as he is with Gates, not to mention the special taijutsu moves he can use with the Gates. But in base he definitely defeats Chiyo, Yamato, Hidan, Asuma, Zabuza, Darui, Mifune, Tsunade, old Sarutobi. Depending on conditions he defeats Mei (he easily stomps her with a fight starting at short range, he probably won't win a fight starting at long range).
 

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Base Gai is Jonin level...
Hidan level probably...
 

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Maybe Hidan...maybe.

He doesn't really have much when you think about it. Unless his turtle has some super secret op abilities I was unaware of :lol
 
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He beats every jounin bar kakashi and hiashi(bad matchup)
 

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Base Gai is elite jounin level... I'd say he could beat Asuma and Yamato

Nah. Asumas Wind Blades slices through him and his nunchucks without trouble.

Yamato beats him too. Wood Clones feint him and he restrains and crushes him.
 

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So he beats Neji too? Isn't he practically the same as Hiashi?

Neji is weaker than hiashi. His air palm feat wise is weaker, and he cant perform double wall palm. Then there's nejis rotaion being weaker by feats and finally one would assume hiashi's byakugan range far exceeds neji's meager 800m. but thats an assumtion so don't hold me to it.
 

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Neji is weaker than hiashi. His air palm feat wise is weaker, and he cant perform double wall palm. Then there's nejis rotaion being weaker by feats and finally one would assume hiashi's byakugan range far exceeds neji's meager 800m. but thats an assumtion so don't hold me to it.
A weaker rotation or weaker air Palm are still effective against a base Gai. And even a lower range of eyesight is a non factor since that's not really gonna be needed against a close range fighter like Gai.

But I dunno, maybe Gai can outlast Neji. Don't really see Neji losing in CQC though.
 

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Base Gai is elite jounin level... I'd say he could beat Asuma and Yamato

Hmm...
With only base feats (he can't even use basic Lotus for example) I don't see him beating Yamato... He'll get overwhelmed mokuton...
 

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Nah. Asumas Wind Blades slices through him and his nunchucks without trouble.

Yamato beats him too. Wood Clones feint him and he restrains and crushes him.

Not really. Kisame casually evaded it and that's prior to Part 2 Inflation where he displayed far superior feats and even then, Base Gai's performance even exceeded Base Bee's when he managed to actually strip Kisame of his weapon where Base Bee failed to do so after Kisame was forced to parry Sabu.

Wood Clone feint isn't catching him off-guard when he doesn't have spectacular feats with clones to begin with. His best feat was fooling Naruto which Sai managed to perceive regardless.
 

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Base Gai handled Obito's Kamui phasing/warp touching in CQC far better than Minato did. Minato was captured by young Obito's chain and had to use Hiraishin to dodge ( ) (and at that point he already knew that his opponent was able to phase through attacks), base Gai could jump in a fight between adult Obito and KCM Naruto saving Naruto at the last moment ( ) and fending off Obito that couldn't literally put a finger to him due to Gai's reflexes and taijutsu skill ( )( )( ). He countered Obito's CQC Kamui and even took the luxury to fight off Obito with his back turned. Obito was making child's play of KCM Naruto.

Base Gai could react to Obito's Kamui warp (of one of his nunchaku) and move during the time of the warp (Minato barely managed to activate Hiraishin and teleport away in the same time) ( ).

Gates enhance physical speed and strength by removing the body's limiters, they don't enhance reflexes. Base Gai is able to react to his own speed in Gates, even 6th (that blitzes Kisame and counterblitzes Sharingan and Rinnegan enhanced V2 jinchuriki) and 7th Gate (that pressures Juudara far more than SM Minato did), and even 8th Gate too (that blitzes Juudara and even reaches a speed high enough that his movement bends the surrounding space).

Gai's base strength casually destroys concrete ( )( ) and with his nunchaku he literallu pulverizes giant boulders like they were nothing, impressing Obito ( ). His skill is such that he can disarm Kisame from the Samehada using his ****ing legs ( ); please note that the Shoten clone wasn't Kisame at 30% of his general power, but Kisame with the same strength, jutsu, speed, smartness, durability and whatever the original had, he just had 30% of the chakra of the true Kisame.

His speed, reflexes and physical strength are over the roof even in base, obviously he is not as fast and powerful as he is with Gates, not to mention the special taijutsu moves he can use with the Gates. But in base he definitely defeats Chiyo, Yamato, Hidan, Asuma, Zabuza, Darui, Mifune, Tsunade, old Sarutobi. Depending on conditions he defeats Mei (he easily stomps her with a fight starting at short range, he probably won't win a fight starting at long range).

Hell no. Hidan absolutely wrecks Base Gai, Hidan arguably beats 7 gates Gai. Tsunade beats him as well.
 

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A weaker rotation or weaker air Palm are still effective against a base Gai. And even a lower range of eyesight is a non factor since that's not really gonna be needed against a close range fighter like Gai.

But I dunno, maybe Gai can outlast Neji. Don't really see Neji losing in CQC though.

When you look at the staggering difference between hiachi's double wall palm on juubi then compare it to neji's lackluster feat against a water clone of a clone of kisame (literally 3% kisame) id say theres a difference.

neji's gonna have to resort to rotation constantly in cqc or else he gets crapped on.
 
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