[Discussion] How strong do you think Coby is by now?

[Hijey]

Ace has no Haki feats and therefore no Haki. Coby has Haki and Rokushiki so please : maintain consistency.

Mr. Zombie feat. I am maintaining consistency. I, just like many other reasonable readers, are going by the most logical assumption here.

 

[David1996]

**** both Coby and Smoker.

 

[xcoyote]

Mr. Zombie feat. I am maintaining consistency. I, just like many other reasonable readers, are going by the most logical assumption here.

Lol He hasnt displayed any form of Haki,stop handing out feats to your favourite characters for the lolz and for the sake of an argument.

 

[bigboi]

Proably around CP9 Levels

 

[ziggyZ]

He's most definitely around mid-trio level.

 

[Kuzan]

I dont get why people think he is only cp9 level. If you look at his growth-rate in his first year at the marines, he basicly went for a nobody to a Franky level fighter. 2 more years have passed by and during those 2 years he trained with one of the strongest people alive + he already awaked Haki before the time-skip. Look how much Luffy has grown over these 2 years and you have to take into acount that Coby's growth-rate is even more impressive than luffy's.

 

[Hijey]

Lol He hasnt displayed any form of Haki,stop handing out feats to your favourite characters for the lolz and for the sake of an argument.

Lol there is no way we can proof if somone is using haki or not unless they are the main character, using hardening, or fighting a logia. Stop acting like defending a character means they are your favorite character.

 

[Kuzan]

Lol there is no way we can proof if somone is using haki or not unless they are the main character, using hardening, or fighting a logia. Stop acting like defending a character means they are your favorite character.

You are right, it is highly improbable that someone of Ace's caliber does not posses Haki, when even the likes of Tashigi managed to grasp the basics within 2 years.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

You are right, it is highly improbable that someone of Ace's caliber does not posses Haki, when even the likes of Tashigi managed to grasp the basics within 2 years.

However until it is proven it cannot be considered.

 

[LitzSabr]

However until it is proven it cannot be considered.

It is not possible to prove it now, because Ace is dead. But for matters like this we can take something out from the actions, status etc of the character (Ace). Like why would Ace tangle with Logia users knowing that he can't use Haki? And well his and Akainu's fists clashed with each other, how was Ace able to do that?
Dude you yourself know the answer but still. - -

 

[Kuzan]

However until it is proven it cannot be considered.

Saying Ace doesnt have Haki is like saying: I have never seen you brain, therefore you have no brain.
Just because you cant see it doesnt mean it is not actually there. Sometimes you have to accept something, because logic says so.

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

However until it is proven it cannot be considered.

Exacta!!!!!!! Ace hasnt been proven to have haki but bcoz it hasn't been proven that he didn't have it we can theorise him having it but we can't consider Ace's haki in vs threads n discussions as "if it hasn't been displayed then its non existant" so to say innocent(no haki) till proven guilty(has haki). By saying "he has CoO n CoA coz he has CoC n was in the company of pple who had it" u r also indirectly saying all WB pirates have CoO n CoA coz they too have been in the company of haki users as Rayleigh said "1 in a million...yada yada yada .... but the two other types can b achieved thru training. So Ace has just as much haki(CoO n CoA) as Namur or Odz jnr at this point.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

How strong Coby by now?

I would say he's at Blueno's level.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Saying Ace doesnt have Haki is like saying: I have never seen you brain, therefore you have no brain.
Just because you cant see it doesnt mean it is not actually there. Sometimes you have to accept something, because logic says so.

There is a certainty that you have a brain ; what you just described was idiocy. Provide evidence of Ace using Haki ; then we can say he uses haki. He likely used weak Haki (DF dependant) ; however I refuse to count Haki if we haven't got the evidence (whether stated by Oda or by a character or shown in combat)

 

[Fireplay]

There is a certainty that you have a brain ; what you just described was idiocy. Provide evidence of Ace using Haki ; then we can say he uses haki. He likely used weak Haki (DF dependant) ; however I refuse to count Haki if we haven't got the evidence (whether stated by Oda or by a character or shown in combat)

Exacta!!!!!!! Ace hasnt been proven to have haki but bcoz it hasn't been proven that he didn't have it we can theorise him having it but we can't consider Ace's haki in vs threads n discussions as "if it hasn't been displayed then its non existant" so to say innocent(no haki) till proven guilty(has haki). By saying "he has CoO n CoA coz he has CoC n was in the company of pple who had it" u r also indirectly saying all WB pirates have CoO n CoA coz they too have been in the company of haki users as Rayleigh said "1 in a million...yada yada yada .... but the two other types can b achieved thru training. So Ace has just as much haki(CoO n CoA) as Namur or Odz jnr at this point.

Saying Ace doesnt have Haki is like saying: I have never seen you brain, therefore you have no brain.
Just because you cant see it doesnt mean it is not actually there. Sometimes you have to accept something, because logic says so.

Still arguing about this i see. Someone please make a thread about this topic. I'ts getting interested.

 

[Hijey]

Still arguing about this i see. Someone please make a thread about this topic. I'ts getting interested.

I was surprised when rinnemaki, one of the more knowledgeable, good debater, thought so. :'( It won't be much but I'll make a poll and see what most people think here.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I was surprised when rinnemaki, one of the more knowledgeable, good debater, thought so. :'( It won't be much but I'll make a poll and see what most people think here.

You made the thread! I wouldn't be surprised if it went on for ages and ages like the Doflamingo compared to Kaidou thread...
Thanks for the complements btw bro! I just don't see Ace being anything more than a skillful Logia user like Crocodile.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

I dunno.
Im guessing Caribou could probs beat him tbh :yeah:

 

[Red Swag]

he is below vice admiral. just a little bit

 

[Netferarri]

Yeah he is in like mid trio level lol.