How some people magically know they have specific Sharingan's powers?

[htmwall]

it's how MS works,once awakened the user can access all of its abilities immediately by popping his eyes out:example: itachi's caseops his right eye out:amaterasu
left eye;tsukuyomi
both eyes:susanoo.
he doesn't need to know a thing or learn a thing just pops his eyes out.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Unless you are saying that kamui is a three tomoe sharingan ability, you are not making a case. Unless you can prove that kamui can be used outside of MS, then you have no case.

Kamui is MS, intangibility isnt. Obito can slip forth and back whole day with 3T (may have to do with senju dna, regardless its 3T)
Case closed.

 

[Kyno]

Kamui is MS, intangibility isnt. Obito can slip forth and back whole day with 3T (may have to do with senju dna, regardless its 3T)
Case closed.

Show me a picture where it shows him using kamui at the same time as having his 3T out. Switching between MS and 3T is instantaneous, just as switching between rinne and EMS is for madara. And if we saw Tobi's ms, it would have been much more obvious the whole time that tobi was obito. The point is, not only did he not have MS at the time (and there wasn't anything to trigger it), but there has never been a time that I can recall where tobi has his 3T visible as he is using kamui, and he hasn't switched to 3T since revealing his MS which further shows how it purely would have been just for plot.

 

[Kyno]

And his intangibility is 100% routed from his Kamui. They lead to the same dimension, and he can't use his kamui while doing it. It was clearly stated in the manga that he was using 1 jutsu to suck people in and be intangible, and Tobi commended kakashi on being smart enough to figure that out.

 

[AlphaScythian]

ahh get lost. ur slow -.-

 

[TakeoSusumu]

Sharingans rock...

[video=youtube;ftbjQQR-LzE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftbjQQR-LzE[/video]

 

[Kyno]

ahh get lost. ur slow -.-

I realized my fallacy when rereading your post and made an appropriate response, the intangibility has already been stated to be linked to kamui

 

[htmwall]

Kamui is MS, intangibility isnt. Obito can slip forth and back whole day with 3T (may have to do with senju dna, regardless its 3T)
Case closed.

kakashi said in the end intangibility and kamui are one jutsu.

and here is my proof:

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case closed.

 

[JaffaTalk]

Well... let's start...
The first and the most basic question : Any Sharingan have the ability to be upgraded to MS -> EMS and can use any abilitiy from the doujutsu?

Why is that? My reasons :

Kakashi and Obito can use Kamui, because both share the original eyes, but we didn't see any of them using Amaterasu or Susano'o.
Neither Itachi or Sasuke showed that they could use Kamui. Itachi probabily learned how to use Amaterasu and Susano'o from the tablet(supposed it shows how to use) and Sasuke magically says "Susano'o" or "Amaterasu' and then BANG... he instantly learned these abilities...Yet, no even Madara could use Kamui.
Last but not least there is the Kotoamatsukami of Shisui, and we don't know if he could use Susano'o or Amaterasu, probaly not.
We didn't see Madara using Amaterasu, not even on the flashbacks.

So how the heck is a Sharingan's user supposed to know that he has X or Y Sharingan's ability?? Even worse how did Sasuke learned to use Amaterasu or Susano'o so fast?

Tell me your thoughts!

It depends on what family u are in withing Uchiha Clan...:scorps:

CUZ Sasuke&Itach and Madara&Izuna share MS abilities in general, as far as Susanoo and Tsukuyomi are concerned, due to they're the children of the leaders of Uchiha clan....may be there's even some connection between them.hmm

That's why Obito and Shisui, not being in the main family of Uchiha, don't share MS abilities with Madara and the rest others

TO say more, any Uchiha can awaken MS.As a proof is Kakashi, who even not being Uchiha awakened MS as a result of emotional breakdown=D

 

[Kyno]

kakashi said in the end intangibility and kamui are one jutsu.

and here is my proof:

Spoiler

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case closed.

This. Yes, I didn't read what you had said correctly, but that's because what you said made zero sense, and my mind contorted it. It was already established that the intangibility was kamui, so why would it even be a debate now?

 

[gjpaixao13]

It depends on what family u are in withing Uchiha Clan...:scorps:

CUZ Sasuke&Itach and Madara&Izuna share MS abilities in general, as far as Susanoo and Tsukuyomi are concerned, due to they're the children of the leaders of Uchiha clan....may be there's even some connection between them.hmm

That's why Obito and Shisui, not being in the main family of Uchiha, don't share MS abilities with Madara and the rest others

Probably this. Nice point

 

[Silverblade]

Well... let's start...
The first and the most basic question : Any Sharingan have the ability to be upgraded to MS -> EMS and can use any abilitiy from the doujutsu?

Why is that? My reasons :

Kakashi and Obito can use Kamui, because both share the original eyes, but we didn't see any of them using Amaterasu or Susano'o.
Neither Itachi or Sasuke showed that they could use Kamui. Itachi probabily learned how to use Amaterasu and Susano'o from the tablet(supposed it shows how to use) and Sasuke magically says "Susano'o" or "Amaterasu' and then BANG... he instantly learned these abilities...Yet, no even Madara could use Kamui.
Last but not least there is the Kotoamatsukami of Shisui, and we don't know if he could use Susano'o or Amaterasu, probaly not.
We didn't see Madara using Amaterasu, not even on the flashbacks.

So how the heck is a Sharingan's user supposed to know that he has X or Y Sharingan's ability?? Even worse how did Sasuke learned to use Amaterasu or Susano'o so fast?

Tell me your thoughts!

What the hell is this? This is not reality.

Kishi made that shit up for them.

Creates Spiraling Sphere

Spiraling Sphere jutsu? hmm call it Rasengan

Spiraling Sphere = Rasengan

As for Sasuke.

1. He tested his eyes out. Black flames appear! it must be Amaterasu
The other eye must be genjutsu.
He controls both = Susanoo

 

[AlphaScythian]

Intangibility was awaken when obito had 2T and slipped through rocks, it was improved with 3T and MS, but obito has access to it with regular sharingan to warp something he needs kamui aka MS move. If u dont know that u not only suck in life but even in reading mangas
/thread

 

[FearxDeath]

I recommend you read this thread as in it I explain the Sharingan and Susano in pretty good detail. [

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But basically the Sharingan is just chakra found inside of the brain. Everyones chakra isnt the same though, as explained in the thread I linked above, and thus the abilities of everyones Sharingan, which is a reflection of the chakra in their brain, is different.

Now it is my theory that the reason Sharingans have the same base abilties like reading movements, copying jutsu, etc... is merely because of the increased chakra flow to the eye and thus isnt neccesarily a reflection of the chakra itself but more of a side effect of the increased blood flow to the eye. The tomies of the sharingan are sort of like hints as to how much chakra is flowing to the eye and thus the more chakra the higher tomie. Which is why eyes get better with increased tomie since there is more chakra flow to the eye.

The reason people in families can have similar MS abilities is because there chakra's are similar as well. But slightly different in ways as well which is why Itachi and Sasuke have the same base abiilities and yet have different skill levels with Sasuke being skilled with Amaterasu and itachi being skilled with Tyukyomi.

Conclusion

The base similar abilities of the Sharingan are similar because of the increased chakra flow and not neccesarily the type of chakra.

The MS abilities are reflections of the specific type/form of chakra in the uchiha's brain.

Susan'os are the physical version of the chakra in the brain and thus although they may not all be the same they may also change over time as the users chakra changes and becomes more developed.

I hope this helps

 

[Madara ibn Lahad]

Well they get a manual called ems guide just for you,and from there they learn all about there ems.

 

[Momo86]

it's not entirely clear.

Susanoo clearly has a specific appearance, it is not a random mass of dark chakra used to armor yourself, there must be an origin for it, but it is unexplained. It is entirely possibile that Itachi learned Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi and Susanoo from study, and Sasuke learned them by sharingan-izing these jutsu while Itachi was using them. One could also argue that Kakashi learned to use Kamui through trial and error. The only unexplainable one is Obito, he had the most overpowered Kamui version ready for action just as soon as he awakened his Magenkyo. That is impossibile to explain, unless the Magenkyo has somewhat an arsenal of techniques registered "in itself" that it "downloads" in the brain of the Uchiha who awakens it.

 

[gjpaixao13]

it's not entirely clear.

Susanoo clearly has a specific appearance, it is not a random mass of dark chakra used to armor yourself, there must be an origin for it, but it is unexplained. It is entirely possibile that Itachi learned Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi and Susanoo from study, and Sasuke learned them by sharingan-izing these jutsu while Itachi was using them. One could also argue that Kakashi learned to use Kamui through trial and error. The only unexplainable one is Obito, he had the most overpowered Kamui version ready for action just as soon as he awakened his Magenkyo. That is impossibile to explain, unless the Magenkyo has somewhat an arsenal of techniques registered "in itself" that it "downloads" in the brain of the Uchiha who awakens it.

lol...So there is an Hidden "Uchiha Server" Village that contains all files necessary to run MS programs and any Uchiha can connect WIFI to download this files/manuals????

 

[SabakuNoGaaraOVZ]

Every MS has its own abilities depending on genetics, they don't learn these jutus by training but just by awakening the MS. Obito probably didn't die when he got crushed by that rock because his body used intangibility as a last resort eventough he didnt awaken the MS yet. Awakening the MS allowed him to use the jutsu at will. At least, thats what I think.

 

[SabakuNoGaaraOVZ]

They actually are unable to use any dojutsu from any ms. Each MS has it's specific abilities. Obito read the tablet, yet he has neither ever used amaterasu or tsukuyomi. While it is possible anyone can learn anything, until someone uses 3 sharingan abilities (Susanoo is a synthesis ability and therefore doesn't count) Then you have no case

How is susanoo a synthesis ability?

it's not entirely clear.

Susanoo clearly has a specific appearance, it is not a random mass of dark chakra used to armor yourself, there must be an origin for it, but it is unexplained. It is entirely possibile that Itachi learned Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi and Susanoo from study, and Sasuke learned them by sharingan-izing these jutsu while Itachi was using them. One could also argue that Kakashi learned to use Kamui through trial and error. The only unexplainable one is Obito, he had the most overpowered Kamui version ready for action just as soon as he awakened his Magenkyo. That is impossibile to explain, unless the Magenkyo has somewhat an arsenal of techniques registered "in itself" that it "downloads" in the brain of the Uchiha who awakens it.

I doubt that, 'sharinganizing' jutsus doesnt work with kekkai genkai jutsus, and MS is a kekkai genkai.

 

[sanninuto]

well, i guess it's part of their blood