How much do you REALLY know about Kekkei Genkai?

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I wish to clarify a popular misconception surrounding the Kekkei Genkai(KKG).

The idea/mechanism behind a KKG has not been sufficiently explained in the manga and that is what I believe to be the source of confusion.

This is what many of you think (ie: the misconception):
"Anyone with multiple natures (eg: Onoki, Mei) will have a KKG corresponding to those natures"​


This is what I propose (crudely put):
"Anyone with a KKG will have multiple natures that constitute the said KKG, BUT not all shinobi with multiple natures will have KKG"

I hope this makes sense to you all. It is like saying: all cats are tailed animals, BUT, not all tailed animals are cats. (If you are confused at this point, this thread is not for you).

2 characters support my claim:

i) Onoki: Onoki has 3 natures (Fire, Earth, Wind). According to the misconception, Onoki then, ought to be able to use Lava release (Fire + Earth) and Scorch release (Fire + Wind). But he cannot. Can the misconception explain this?

ii) Mei: Mei has 3 natures as well (Fire, Earth, Water). According to the misconception, Mei then, ought to be able to use Wood release (Earth + Water) as well. Evidently she cannot.


CONCLUSION 1 (Simple Version)
: The KKG gene is separate from the 'multiple natures' gene; having a KKG means you will be able to use a KKG, but simply having multiple natures does not give you a KKG.


CONCLUSION 2 (More radical; only for the open-minded/sophisticated)
: A Kekkei Genkai is not really an elemental nature at all. That is, advanced natures don't really exist in chakra form; they exist only in the instance when it is created (ie: used as a jutsu). A Kekkei Genkai really is the ability to fuse 2 or more chakra natures together, to form a new advanced element. This advanced element has no chakra form from the outset.


Lastly, may i offer an analogy...
Consider a cake: When you bake a cake, is it enough to have flour, eggs and water (ie: basic elements)? Does the act of mixing them make a cake? No, of course not. To make a cake, you need, heat. This heat is what the KKG really is; a catalyst that fuses 2 or more basic elements together. The cake doesn't exist from the outset, but its ingredients (water, eggs, etc) do; the cake only exists when you make it (ie: do a jutsu).


Now I believe many of you will disagree with what I say, considering the extent of this misconception's popular acceptance, but I have faith that the logical, reasonable few out there will understand where I am coming from.

That is all. Thank you for your time (and pardon me if the post is too long) :ice:
 
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I honestly haven't seen many people with such a misconception. The idea the Ōnoki or others can use Shakuton or the like really isn't universally held.
 

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I honestly haven't seen many people with such a misconception. The idea the Ōnoki or others can use Shakuton or the like really isn't universally held.
That is not the misconception. I'm using Onoki's example to prove the misconception wrong. What I'm trying to say is: Many people think that having multiple natures gives you KKG. In that case, shouldn't Onoki be able to use Shakuton???
 

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That is not the misconception. I'm using Onoki's example to prove the misconception wrong. What I'm trying to say is: Many people think that having multiple natures gives you KKG. In that case, shouldn't Onoki be able to use Shakuton???
And i'm saying, there aren't many people 'that think having multiple natures gives you KKG', at least from what i've seen.
 

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And i'm saying, there aren't many people 'that think having multiple natures gives you KKG', at least from what i've seen.
There are people posting threads about "why Kakashi doesn't have a KKG or KKT", and threads like "Why Mei can't use Mokuton" and threads claiming that people with multiple natures are rare, and if they exist, they WILL have KKG.

Doesn't matter if you've seen them; I have.

I just hope you're with me on this matter.
 

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There are people posting threads about "why Kakashi doesn't have a KKG or KKT", and threads like "Why Mei can't use Mokuton" and threads claiming that people with multiple natures are rare, and if they exist, they WILL have KKG.

Doesn't matter if you've seen them; I have.

I just hope you're with me on this matter.
I agree with this thread, just suggesting that it's only targeting a small minority of people.
 

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It is like saying: all cats are tailed animals, BUT, not all tailed animals are cats.


NO ! '' It is like saying: cats are tailed animals, BUT, not all tailed animals are cats. '' ¿? lol couldn't help but laughing. xd

Why do you compare something that is fiction with something that is nonfiction (living creatures with Anime) ¿? Not the same if you ask me....

I can care less if Onoki can't fire bend. Or Lava bend. Let Kishi do the rest of the work, after all it's his story anyway.
 

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I agree with this thread, just suggesting that it's only targeting a small minority of people.
I don't think the majority get this:

CONCLUSION 2 (More radical; only for the open-minded/sophisticated)
: A Kekkei Genkai is not really an elemental nature at all. That is, advanced natures don't really exist in chakra form; they exist only in the instance when it is created (ie: used as a jutsu). A Kekkei Genkai really is the ability to fuse 2 or more chakra natures together, to form a new advanced element. This advanced element has no chakra form from the outset.
 

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NO ! '' It is like saying: cats are tailed animals, BUT, not all tailed animals are cats. '' ¿? lol couldn't help but laughing. xd

Why do you compare something that is fiction with something that is nonfiction (living creatures with Anime) ¿? Not the same if you ask me....
I'm using the cat example as a heuristic tool, like an analogy?
 

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Lol this has always pissed me off XD....I always prefer to see it as it takes X number of years to even get DJ element (took Naruto days with 100+ years) then you'd have to do that twice for two elementss and after that spend X times even longer to even mix them...nearly impossible
 
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