[Theory] How Madara could possibly return.

[shuu]

When Danzo used Izanagi, the physical reality of him dying was erased, the spiritual was not. (The memories.) Izanagi can only alter what has happen, not create a new reality from scratch. Meaning that if Madara wishes to create a complete body out of the legs that are left he would need to alter the reality of of being cut in half to begin with. (If he does that then either his legs will be gone as he would have been made into Kaguya regardless) or it won't work as it would affect the reality of Kaguya and Black Zetsu as well. What you are stating is that with Izanagi a user can create a new reality of their liking, that is not what Izanagi does.

The limits of modifying one's own reality isn't limited to just popping back into existence unharmed. Forcing his lower half to regenerate to be his new reality is totally plausible.

your bolding and underlining is pretentious and gay as hell

 

[Shinato]

The limits of modifying one's own reality isn't limited to just popping back into existence unharmed. Forcing his lower half to regenerate to be his new reality is totally plausible.

your bolding and underlining is pretentious and gay as hell

The limit to Izanagi is that it can only change the reality that has happen, which means unless Madara's lower half has either regenerated or rottened away before then there is no way to grow a new torso out of it unless Madara alter the reality of him being cut in half in the first place. (Which wouldn't work as I've explained.) So no, its not plausible at all. (Its not even possible.) Pretentious? I bold and underline for two reasons; 1. To make it easier for me to re-read my posts if I need to. 2. To make it easier for people get the main information quicker and makes it easier to skim over. Also, I am gay. So technically speaking, everything I type can be viewed as "gay as hell".

 

[shuu]

the point about a technique that alters reality is that it alters reality.

the reality of his lower body not regenerating an upper body is part of reality, and within the realm of Izanagi to change.

 

[Shinato]

the point about a technique that alters reality is that it alters reality.

the reality of his lower body not regenerating an upper body is part of reality, and within the realm of Izanagi to change.

Izanagi alters the reality of the user, however it can only alter the past. Izanagi cannot alter the present or future. That is why the user only activates it after something has happen to them, and not before or at the time it does. The only thing Izanagi can change about Madara's lower half is it being cut in half. He cannot grow a new torso out of it.

 

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

I bet hagoromo killed hamura.

 

[shuu]

Izanagi alters the reality of the user, however it can only alter the past. Izanagi cannot alter the present or future. That is why the user only activates it after something has happen to them, and not before or at the time it does. The only thing Izanagi can change about Madara's lower half is it being cut in half. He cannot grow a new torso out of it.

yes he can

because he's altering reality

i don't think you understand how far reaching of an ability it is

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Lol no, Madara didn't know kaguya was the shinju.....

read the damn scan.

" I see.. so the holy tree itself."

then kaguya answers back. how can you miss that

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[XY iNVeRSe]

There is only one reality. For me to change my reality, i am changing the reality of all those who share the same singular reality. When Danzou died, it was the reality for Sasuke that he died, the reality for Karin, etc, etc to have seen him died, and the reality for Danzou to be dead. Nonetheless, he brought himself back to life.

The usage of Madara's Izanagi would allow him to revive. I do not think he used/will use Izanagi, but it is certainly possible that he could have.

you're right bro. it disgusts me how he doesn't get it. i'll +rep u

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

As I was rereading the manga recently, I had realized something.

Madara had known what the tree really was. Once he absorbed the tree, he had said something that had caught my eye.

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As you can see, after Madara absorbed the tree, he said "I see...so the holy tree itself..."

According to Black Zetsu, the Juubi was not just the tree coming to get all the chakra back, but Kaguya's will as well.

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When he absorbed the tree, Madara had put two and two together and realized that Kaguya's will was inside the tree.

After he came back from the Kamui dimension, he gave Black Zetsu Obito's left eye back.

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Could this have been to cast another delayed Izanagi to bring him back to life? We already know Madara did it before.

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We also know that Mangekyo techniques can be transferred through other people through this as well.

Could Madara of possibly implanted a delayed Izanagi into Obito's left eye, like Itachi did to Sasuke, gave it to Black Zetsu, and planned to come back if anything went wrong?

This theory is badass bro. ignore the people who thinks otherwise, they hate Madara.

note: there's like an 80% chance of this happening. madara always has a fail safe no matter what. and kishi just introduced this a couple chapters ago and he likes to repeat things, so i can't wait till this happens.

 

[Ventuis]

I bet hagoromo killed hamura.

Not even the slightest bit relevant my friend. At least you tried.

 

[Seventh Sama]

read the damn scan.

" I see.. so the holy tree itself."

then kaguya answers back. how can you miss that

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uhh did he outright say the shinju is kaguya? Sure he acknowledged there was a voice there but he didn't expect it to be kaguya....

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

uhh did he outright say the shinju is kaguya? Sure he acknowledged there was a voice there but he didn't expect it to be kaguya....

he knows what was written on the tablet explaining everything about kaguya and the shinju. how couldn't he expect it wtf. who else would it be?

 

[Seventh Sama]

he knows what was written on the tablet explaining everything about kaguya and the shinju. how couldn't he expect it wtf. who else would it be?

Dude, all he knew was that kaguya ate the fruit from the shinju thus the shinju got pissed at her for stealing its chakra fruit. Which supposedly the ten tails was born in order to claim that stolen chakra, He believed that. however we found out chapters later that the juubi is kaguya herself not the incarnation of the shinju that madara & everyone else believed.... basically he thought the holy tree was talking to him..

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Dude, all he knew was that kaguya ate the fruit from the shinju thus the shinju got pissed at her for stealing its chakra fruit. Which supposedly the ten tails was born in order to claim that stolen chakra, He believed that. however we found out chapters later that the juubi is kaguya herself not the incarnation of the shinju that madara & everyone else believed.... basically he thought the holy tree was talking to him..

but he still knew it was her. we don't know the full info on the tablet. Madara just explained what was necessary to hashirama.

even right here, he revealed even more info on what was on the tablet.

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He knows that , that was kaguya. this should end our argument

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[Cornballs227]

I like this theory, but what if he doesn't even get revived.. and then we're all sad?

But yeah I'd love to see this come true.

 

[Ventuis]

but he still knew it was her. we don't know the full info on the tablet. Madara just explained what was necessary to hashirama.

even right here, he revealed even more info on what was on the tablet.

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He knows that , that was kaguya. this should end our argument

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Also, why would he be speaking in third person like that? "We'll finally...become one!!" He obviously knew something.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Also, why would he be speaking in third person like that? "We'll finally...become one!!" He obviously knew something.

right? i mean, he obviously wasn't talking to the juubi lol. at least you get it

 

[Seventh Sama]

but he still knew it was her. we don't know the full info on the tablet. Madara just explained what was necessary to hashirama.

even right here, he revealed even more info on what was on the tablet.

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He knows that , that was kaguya. this should end our argument

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No, it isn't. He wants to connect everyone under MT. That's what he meant by " we'll finally become one"

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

No, it isn't. He wants to connect everyone under MT. That's what he meant by " we'll finally become one"

seriously...... then why did kaguya say the same exact thing here.

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and in this scan where madara's says it, she appears?

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bring me evidence that madara wanted himself to be caught in Infinite tsukuyomi scans plz. because i can bring more scans to further my stand.

 

[shuu]

While I argued it was possible for him to Izanagi out the situation, I am not arguing that it is likely. Not because he couldn't, but because he wouldn't.

With 'We'll finally become one' etc he was most likely referring to all the shinobi he would put under the genjutsu.
The panel with Kaguya's Byakugan and Rinnegan being shown in the darkness does not have a speech bubble-- just a text box. It is possible she was responding, but I doubt it. If her plan was to take him over, she would just do it. She wouldn't give him a opportunity to react, however slim of one.

However, Madara could know much more than we think he knows.