How is 'Rinnegan Sasuke/RSM Naruto vs DMS Kakashi' even debatable??

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You're right, at least the first time he hit obito [which was as obito was trying to absorb him, thus intangibility wasn't active]. Once minato marked obito he was able to stick him in the gut w/ his kunai since he could teleport w/ it already touching him.

So yes, the first time he wasn't instant but that's because obito had to deactivate his intangibility [which kakashi doesn't have to do for 5 minutes], the 2nd time minato was instant.



He doesn't need to know where sasuke is, intangibility has worked even during attacks that obito was unaware of.



Yeah, I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that it's just not possible for sasuke to touch kakashi during the 5 minutes.

For the first one I was actually refering to When I made that comment.
As I don't think it was suggested Obito immediately after he became JJ, definitely not before he controlled it anyways.
 
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So Kakashi has feats of Reacting to instant teleportation? Lol.

Kamui shurikens wouldn't have done jack to Kaguya had she not been in rabbit mode.

And the first part I said isn't fan fiction.
Rinnegan Sasuke @ VOTE

And like I said DMS Kakashi doesn't have Juubi jin like reflexs so he won't react and kamui in time

btw dude re read Kakashi vs Zabuza. Kakashi still won that first encounter.

Fist of all, kakashi doesn't need to react physically to instant teletransportation, he just need to go intangible, thus sasuke's rinneblitz won't touch him.

Why do you keep up with fan fiction? Sasuke didn't use amenotiklaskjla (whatever you write it, i will just use Rinneblitz) on susano, he just used normal speed and moved towards naruto's clone. You have no proof that was teleporting, his rinnengan wasn't even paneled before he did that so you are just fan-fictioning everything.

I gave you manga facts about Kaguya's rabbit chakra arms being faster than Kaguya (no rabbit mode) but you didn't even bother to post a counter-argument, you just said "Kamui shurikens wouldn't have done jack to Kaguya had she not been in rabbit mode"

Madara was cut in a half because he wasn't even paying atention to sasuke, he was just focusing on stealing kakashi's sharingan and going to the pocket dimension, at the end Madara just grew a lower part again. Another thing you should know, kakashi doesn't need JJ reactions to avoid being rinne-blitzed, he just needs to go intangible.

What about kakashi vs zabuza? I know Kakashi won, but why are you ingnoring the fact that Zabuza wiped kakashi until Sasuke and Naruto came to save him? That's manga fact. The first encounter was not Kakashi vs Zabuza, was Kakashi and his ass-saver students vs Zabuza
 

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Fist of all, kakashi doesn't need to react physically to instant teletransportation, he just need to go intangible, thus sasuke's rinneblitz won't touch him.

Why do you keep up with fan fiction? Sasuke didn't use amenotiklaskjla (whatever you write it, i will just use Rinneblitz) on susano, he just used normal speed and moved towards naruto's clone. You have no proof that was teleporting, his rinnengan wasn't even paneled before he did that so you are just fan-fictioning everything.

I gave you manga facts about Kaguya's rabbit chakra arms being faster than Kaguya (no rabbit mode) but you didn't even bother to post a counter-argument, you just said "Kamui shurikens wouldn't have done jack to Kaguya had she not been in rabbit mode"

Madara was cut in a half because he wasn't even paying atention to sasuke, he was just focusing on stealing kakashi's sharingan and going to the pocket dimension, at the end Madara just grew a lower part again. Another thing you should know, kakashi doesn't need JJ reactions to avoid being rinne-blitzed, he just needs to go intangible.

What about kakashi vs zabuza? I know Kakashi won, but why are you ingnoring the fact that Zabuza wiped kakashi until Sasuke and Naruto came to save him? That's manga fact. The first encounter was not Kakashi vs Zabuza, was Kakashi and his ass-saver students vs Zabuza

If Kakashi can't mentally react/ perceive rinne shift he won't be able to activate Kamui in time. Which is not instant.

And again The very next page he teleported next to him and knocked his kyuubi clone away.

It litreally has his amenotejikara symbol next to it like with every other panel he's used it in. You can look into that yourself.

And yes Kakashi did underestimate Zabuza on their first encounter & had no intel on water prison he needed saving by haku. At the end. Much like Kakashi needed Naruto
 

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If Kakashi can't mentally react/ perceive rinne shift he won't be able to activate Kamui in time. Which is not instant.

And again The very next page he teleported next to him and knocked his kyuubi clone away.

It litreally has his amenotejikara symbol next to it like with every other panel he's used it in. You can look into that yourself.

And yes Kakashi did underestimate Zabuza on their first encounter & had no intel on water prison he needed saving by haku. At the end. Much like Kakashi needed Naruto

1- Sasuke's teletransportation atack isn't instant either. His ST is instant but he takes time to atack after he has finally changed his position, we saw it clearly a bunch of times against Kaguya (who couldn't react to kakashi, worth to mention), so kakashi is in fact reacting to sasuke's rinneblitz.

2- I see you couldn't counter my Rabbit Kaguya > Normal kaguya (speed) argument so we leave it there.

3- That's not amenotijikara, it's normal raw speed from thunder-juubi susanoo. Cut the crap, you have no proof for your fanfic.

4- (IDK why are we arguing this subject, did this start in some kakashi vs zabuza thread?) I already know Zabuza lost, why are you ignoring everything i say? Kakashi destroyed zabuza ONCE HE GOT KNOWLEDGE, big deal. We were discussing about Zabuza kicking kakashi's ass on their first encounter, and yes, Zabuza > Part 1 Kakashi if there's no knowledge and you can't deny it because its a manga fact. If you wanna keep up with this subject link me to the thread where this started because i don't remember.
 
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