Why didn't you just name this topic What Itachi failed in? Clearly your just looking at that, but you can't say so and so isn't a genius due to some failures. As people have already listed in this topic many masterminds/genius have had there failures.
whos a genuis to me? hmmm
1. shikamaru a shinobi thats never limited to choices. he genius is one that can create alternative choices. someone i believe that if he was itachi's place at the time of the massacre the out come would have been different. because he always finds another way. and i assume the same with his father.
Where was Shikamaru smartness when he got assigned as captain for the rescue Sasuke mission? He failed to save Sasuke, also put Neji life on the line and even he stated that, so is he not a genius? he can work, so many alternatives, but couldn't do anything that mission?
Why didn't Shika dad try to figure out something when the kyuubi attacked? Why did he like everyone else wait on Minato? If he was so smart than he would have had a plan to push the Kyuubi back or maybe even defeat it.
2. minato. need i say more? this man planned as far as 16 years ahead in a matter of seconds. not to mention he was in the middle of a battle. and his planned worked out beautifully and he didnt leave a note telling his son to hate madara and use revenge towards madara to become strong. gave him the kyuubi and hate faith that he would master it. something itachi could have done with itachi. had faith that sasuke would become strong on his own and not baby him.
I agree with Minato, but he also wasn't sure remember he said to Kushina 'believe' thats it. Naruto also suffered, and was hated by the village. Itachi also believed in Sasuke, but Sasuke had the village looking up to him and praising him, but he choose his own path and Naruto choose his own thats why Naruto said to him that they could've been in each others shoe. Itachi wanted Sasuke to come for him, not leave the village or abandon friends that was Sasuke decision due to him being naive and has Itachi said, the man can be painted any colour, also itachi had to keep his bad guy rep.
3. orochimaru a man that created countless forbidden jutsu. found a way to merge senju and uchiha blood. found a way to make himself immortal. strong enough to the point where he could not be killed but had to be seal(it is the only way to defeat him).
Yet, he got defeat by a 13-14 year old Itachi and as people like to say got genjutsu****ed within seconds. (regular Sharingan)
Oro had all the intel he could with a Sharingan and he wasn't the one to discover the Uchiha/Senju DNA mix as Tobi and Danzou already knew that.
4. a master mind madara. first to unlock ms and ems. after leaving konoha planned a 100 years ahead. he knew he needed hashirama cells to expand his life. kept himself hidden for years. fooled the entire konoha village except for minato. planned for his clan to be demolished(accomplished). you say itachi was a genius he was fooled by madara. he didnt think madara knew everything about him(he did). a lot of things are still unclear about madara because it is unknown if some of the things he say are true.
Agreed.
I don't mean to hate on your list all the people you have mention are genius, but you still are failing to realize Itachi. You are just taking a failure of his and saying he isn't smart. Even Danzou said itachi only mistake was Sasuke. As I said story is still going on and anything is possible.
I dunno, I don't blame Itachi for his messed up plan, I blame Kishi for trying to make such a convoluted story, I kinda do think half of what he did was like wtf, on one hand he's so amazing he can kill everyone, but then on the other hand, he tells his brother to hate him and basically turns him psycho, and in the end he's a hero.
Truth be told I'dve liked Itachi's character more if he was pure villain, the whole double agent thing seems stupid, but I'm pretty sure alot of the story gets lost in translation, but it all seems pointless, if he was so good, than why didn't you just take out half of the akatsuki and join back with the leaf?
I mean I'm sure anybody below Kisame he could've offed and then just left, but he even helped capture Bijuu, in all actuality that does seem a little dumb, but thats as far as from what I can tell on the whole double agent deal, should anyone know why he did what he did please feel free to fill in the gaps
We can't really know what happen that night or even be put in a situation like that.
The way I see it is that Itachi and Shisui both loved the clan and Shisui was willing to do any mission for the Uchiha were Itachi like doing village mission. As we have seen Shisui already with Itachi decided the faith of the Uchiha knowing it was for the best, hence he didn't try stopping him. We know Tobi had his hands in this, it could be possible Tobi killed them all or at least the important ones in Itachi's life (mother, father, etc).
What he did wasn't right, but at the end he didn't want the Uchiha name to fall, so he decided to trade his respect for dishonour and love for hatred. He wanted Sasuke to take all the angry and revenge on him going back to Konoho as a hero and restoring the Uchihas name. There is wrong in it, but also there is a good. We need to take in mind Itachi was only 13, when we were at that age I don't think we sat with our parents discussing there personal life or taking about going jump/fight/battle someone. Even if we did barely are parents or elders would take us seriously.
Itachi didn't capture bijuu as far as I remember Itachi sat somewhere and Kisame went and captured the tailed beast, I only saw them capture one.
Anyways some of these are just speculations.
