How is itachi uchiha a genius

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thx btw:)

I mean seriously though, I think for what he was trying to accomplish, and killing pain and a few others would've crippled the akatsuki in it's infancy, he helped to put Madara where he is in a way
Exactly. There are plenty other things(smarter things) he could have done.
But it's kishis fault lol
 

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Omfg people still don't get what this thread is about. I AM NOT INSULTING ITACHI'S COMBAT SKILLS. yet you all keep bringing that up. There is more to him than his skills in battle. That is the point I'm trying to get across.
I think your saying he wasnt a genius because of the whole thing with sasuke back fired on him. But itachi was a genius of a spy,a genius in ninjutsu, genjutsu and ninja tool,a genius of the uchiha clan and the leaf,a genius in tactics but he still not a genius because of the sasuke thing most geniuses have many of failures in life but they invent something and boom there a genius what meaning of genius do you mean then cause to me atleast he seems to be a genius shinobi to me you could even say hes the definition of ninja read up on it a bit i think theres different point of views everyone has one Anbu Intel!!!!!!
 
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lol yes i'm an Itachi fan xd The whole slaughtering of his clan was sad, but the elders took advantage of his calm nature, knowing he hated war and would do anything to prevent another. If he hadn't killed his clan, everyone but him would have died, including Sasuke. Itachi is a genius, but he's no Shikamaru meaning IQ wise. :lili: Talent can be seen as being a genius, pending how great of a talent and how it's being used. ex a child can b a genius at playing a piano pending on how well they play it and how young they are aka prodigy
^^enough said^^ and im not an itachi fan but even i can see how much of a genius he is you must be blind, deaf, and dum to not see it
 

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I think your saying he wasnt a genius because of the whole thing with sasuke back fired on him. But itachi was a genius of a spy,a genius in ninjutsu, genjutsu and ninja tool,a genius of the uchiha clan and the leaf,a genius in tactics but he still not a genius because of the sasuke thing most geniuses have many of failures in life but they invent something and boom there a genius what meaning of genius do you mean then cause to me atleast he seems to be a genius shinobi to me you could even say hes the definition of ninja read up on it a bit i think theres different point of views everyone has one Anbu Intel!!!!!!
nice but ill say this one more time.
as a shinobi itachi is i rather say very very very talented
but outside of that he is no different from regular ninja. he made major mistakes and ruined his little brothers life. when there were other routes he could have took to achieve his goals. so again. itachi is one of the most talented ninja in the serious. but not a genius. true geniuses dont have that many critical screw ups especially when they have years to plan it out and still failed.
 

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I sometimes honestly think Kishi is making this up as he goes along, I do not think that when he was doing the original naruto show, half of the plot that is shippuden was even thought of, that's why it sometimes seems like a bunch of little and sometimes big holes in the plot, especially with this uchiha fiasco, you coulda asked him wtf is going on two years ago, and he'dve look at you and shrugged like:shrug:, that's what I think
I agree with you on the part that Kishi is making it up as he goes because I remember the pliot that he did for the start of naruto is really different then the real series. I don't think he expected the series to go this long.

Also agree with op of thread that itachi isnt a genius in the decision he made for sasuke ect. But was a genius in combat
 

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nice but ill say this one more time.
as a shinobi itachi is i rather say very very very talented
but outside of that he is no different from regular ninja. he made major mistakes and ruined his little brothers life. when there were other routes he could have took to achieve his goals. so again. itachi is one of the most talented ninja in the serious. but not a genius. true geniuses dont have that many critical screw ups especially when they have years to plan it out and still failed.
Who's a genious to you...
And Itachi failed because of Madara. Someone Naruto, Kakashi nor Sasuke was able to touch.

Seriously Madara is why Itachi failed. Who's goals can be achevied, while Madara is in the mix. Even Still Itachi was still a genious. He predicted multiple outcomes of something that was gonna happen like 5 years later. He had like the most stressful life, having to choose either his Village or his clan. Something he both loved. He even though as far ahead to predict sasuke would attack the village, and his Shisui's eye plan failed because of Kabuto, summoning him back. Seriosuly what could itachi do to prevent Kabuto from summoning him back alive. Atleast he was the only person to break Edo Tensei.
 

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nice but ill say this one more time.
as a shinobi itachi is i rather say very very very talented
but outside of that he is no different from regular ninja. he made major mistakes and ruined his little brothers life. when there were other routes he could have took to achieve his goals. so again. itachi is one of the most talented ninja in the serious. but not a genius. true geniuses dont have that many critical screw ups especially when they have years to plan it out and still failed.
thats like saying einstein was a genius ( very very very talented) at being a physics but when it comes to his personal life he was a utter failure because of his broken marriages and affairs = einstein still a genius????Anbu Intel!!!!!
 
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Who's a genious to you...
And Itachi failed because of Madara. Someone Naruto, Kakashi nor Sasuke was able to touch.

Seriously Madara is why Itachi failed. Who's goals can be achevied, while Madara is in the mix. Even Still Itachi was still a genious. He predicted multiple outcomes of something that was gonna happen like 5 years later. He had like the most stressful life, having to choose either his Village or his clan. Something he both loved. He even though as far ahead to predict sasuke would attack the village, and his Shisui's eye plan failed because of Kabuto, summoning him back. Seriosuly what could itachi do to prevent Kabuto from summoning him back alive. Atleast he was the only person to break Edo Tensei.
whos a genuis to me? hmmm
1. shikamaru a shinobi thats never limited to choices. he genius is one that can create alternative choices. someone i believe that if he was itachi's place at the time of the massacre the out come would have been different. because he always finds another way. and i assume the same with his father.

2. minato. need i say more? this man planned as far as 16 years ahead in a matter of seconds. not to mention he was in the middle of a battle. and his planned worked out beautifully and he didnt leave a note telling his son to hate madara and use revenge towards madara to become strong. gave him the kyuubi and hate faith that he would master it. something itachi could have done with itachi. had faith that sasuke would become strong on his own and not baby him.

3. orochimaru a man that created countless forbidden jutsu. found a way to merge senju and uchiha blood. found a way to make himself immortal. strong enough to the point where he could not be killed but had to be seal(it is the only way to defeat him).

4. a master mind madara. first to unlock ms and ems. after leaving konoha planned a 100 years ahead. he knew he needed hashirama cells to expand his life. kept himself hidden for years. fooled the entire konoha village except for minato. planned for his clan to be demolished(accomplished). you say itachi was a genius he was fooled by madara. he didnt think madara knew everything about him(he did). a lot of things are still unclear about madara because it is unknown if some of the things he say are true.

i would put hiruzen in this group but like itachi he made poor life choices so like itachi he is just one of the most talented shinobi to ever live. am i wrong?

and to be honest you dont have to count number 1 3 and 4 as genius but you have to say that minato is above genius. that man from what weve seen of him has never made a mistake. everything he planned for happen according to plan. every last detail. like jman said he never did anything without a reason. so its safe to say that minato is one of if not the only genius in the series.
 

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Who's a genious to you...
And Itachi failed because of Madara. Someone Naruto, Kakashi nor Sasuke was able to touch.

Seriously Madara is why Itachi failed. Who's goals can be achevied, while Madara is in the mix. Even Still Itachi was still a genious. He predicted multiple outcomes of something that was gonna happen like 5 years later. He had like the most stressful life, having to choose either his Village or his clan. Something he both loved. He even though as far ahead to predict sasuke would attack the village, and his Shisui's eye plan failed because of Kabuto, summoning him back. Seriosuly what could itachi do to prevent Kabuto from summoning him back alive. Atleast he was the only person to break Edo Tensei.
your obviously not a genius if you can't spell genius
 

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itachi has planned events so far ahead and even implanted genjutsu in naruto for a just incase scenario and instead itachi is free so he hasn't even failed his mission he is still on it.
 

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Itachi is a genius. The leaf had plenty of enemies and a civil war with the uchihas would have made them weaker and more vulnerable to all of them. The civil war causes a war of nations (orochimarus goal) that would create a greater chance for oro to destroy the village and madara have a better chance at collecting the 9tails. And pay close attention to the cuz if it werent for narutos competiveness with sasuke, Itachis plan would have succeeded.




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Genius really? So people down the street were trying to control and abuse your family and people in your house hold you would kill off you parents or maybe your kids and girlfriend to make sure they don't fight the guys down the road even though its the guy down the road that bringing the aggression? And that would be genus to you? If any one else did that they would be retarded I don't give free passes. He is an amazing fighter but retarded other wise. He mise well be waterboy. Oh no wait waterboy attacted the other team not his own so that would make him even more retarded then waterboy.
 

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I did give him credit. And all that stuff he did in his youth is not genius. It's raw talent. Two different things. He spend over half of his life coming up with a plan that failed dramatically. He is one of the strongest shinobi in the series. But not a genius. Your a itachi fan so all your doing is looking at everything he's done and picked out the bad to make it seem all good when it isn't good. :D
inb4 d1ck rider
 

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The title says it all.
How is itachi a genius.
He made poor life decisions and he hasn't done anything that would mark him a true genius like let's say orochimaru and minato.
He hasnt created any jutsu. I give him points for unlocking susanoo
He wasn't the first to get ms. He actually is second to last.
And all his plans for sasukes future failed greatly. He created a monster and Put the shinobi world and konoha in jeopardy.
Why would a genius fill his little brothers life with hatred and force him to lean towards revenge.
To be honest he is no genius.
But he is one of the most blessed shinobi to ever live. He was born with unbelievable talent. And is a sharingan master. Just not a genius.

NOW...let the flaming begin. Give me your best shot :D



Funnny this too funy. lmao man

And all his plans for sasukes future failed greatly. He created a monster and Put the shinobi world and konoha in jeopardy.​

I laughed so hard my stomach hurt. lol you practicaly made a hell of a lot of sence there brah. And He did fail on Itachi even Madara said so.LOl

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You do make a point. The only genius I saw was when he broke edo but It was realy just luck of fruture situation. He said it him self that he never Planed it but ppl seem to say other wise so I go with it to shut them up.

No flame here jimmy, just a rep for saying something about it.
 

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I hate flamers and fanboys too bro ;) My only loyalty is to Da Toads :D

But, that being said, I would say that the guy that created Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and a Susanoo that had the Yata Mirror and the Sword of Totsuka was pretty freakin' genius, not a total genius. No one else other than Sasuke has ever been shown to use any of those jutsu and Sasuke never used any of them until Itachi gave them to him by a poke on the head. That's one h*ll of a transference of jutsu poke on the forehead!!! Still not genius??? You are totally right about his choices i.e. kill off his entire clan, mom, dad, and he left only his little bro. :flaw: No one really knows what would've happened if the Uchiha completed their coup d'état or if it would've started another Ninja War. But, we do know that his little brother has flipped and he just wants to kill everyone and everything. So, I would say Sharingan and tactician genius but definitely not in making choices that effect the future of what he truly cares about genius. So, yes and no. :)
MS is triggered by a psychological event just like Kakashi's MS. Kakashi beared the guilt of his best friend's lost and only in the end did Sasuke in fact realize that Itachi was his closest friend.
 

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I am thankful to those that actually caught what I said in my first post and are responding to it(itachi as a whole) and not bringing up half of itachi(battle itachi).
Your welcome

Itachi praised by all as the best of his generation; a genius above all others. Even by the standards of the battle-adept Uchiha clan, Itachi's prowess far outshone them. At age 7, he graduated from the Ninja Academy at the top of his class after only one year, mastered the Sharingan at age eight, passed the Chūnin Exams at age 10, and became an ANBU Captain at age 13.

Even at a young age, Itachi's intellect and talent showed their brilliance in everything he did, as even his teachers said his progress hardly required any help. In the few battles he had been seen in since the start of the series, Itachi was shown to be an incredibly powerful ninja, as demonstrated by his ability to easily defeat several powerful shinobi. Despite his pride in his own strength, Kisame Hoshigaki, Itachi's partner in Akatsuki, acknowledged Itachi as the stronger of the two. Madara said that Itachi never ceased to amaze him, and Kabuto recognised that he had underestimated his intelligence, after he managed to break free of his control through the use of Shisui's dojutsu.
An Great point sep this part.:hint:

Itachi praised by all as the best of his generation; a genius above all others. Even by the standards of the battle-adept Uchiha clan, Itachi's prowess far outshone them.​
You put Itachi's name there instead of shisui. Just correcting an error.:):)
 
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MS is triggered by a psychological event just like Kakashi's MS. Kakashi beared the guilt of his best friend's lost and only in the end did Sasuke in fact realize that Itachi was his closest friend.
Yes but he did still give Sasuke all the techniques of MS. It was just up to sasuke to awaken it.
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