How is itachi torturing sasuke justified?

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deadp00l

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"bla bla hes a hero, he had to do it, he is sorry"
no. there is no goddamn excuse for this. NO EXCUSE for this savagery. NONE. i dont have to sit here and stand for this so im gonna break it down for you fine people.

that night, sasuke lost everything. his entire family. but as one final stab in the throat, a psychopath came along and brutally and horrifically started torturing his 7 year old mind for at least 24 hours. this was done by a genjutsu designed to replay the massacre in his mind over. and over. and over.
and over.
and over.
and over.
by my math, meant he watched his family die about 25 times.
to make matters worse, itachi then began mocking him, breaking down his sanity, making him feel small and insignificant and not worth his time, and not deserving of a quick death.

itachi, knowing full well this is not the truth at all and won't work, told sasuke to seek power by killing his friends in cold blood. meaning itachi coldly and emotionlessly asked his brother to kill people and he didnt care how or who, as long as it furthered his agenda. he completed his corruption by basically leaving sasuke to become power hungry, hateful, depressed, emotionless, emotionally and socially crippled and broken, psychologically and mentally shattered, vengeful, selfish, arrogant and a broken human being. it was all from the torture because i can confirm sasuke was none of these things before that.

then itachi left. sasuke festered for YEARS. for all itachi knows, sasuke had long since killed himself just to end the mental shattering and pain.
so when they meet again what does he do? ill tell you.
mocks and ignores sasuke. then breaks his wrist brutally, knowing full wel that at ANY TIME AT ALL, he can genjutsu sasuke to sleep peacefully. had he done so, ok. no harm no foul. but what does he do?
oh yeah. slowly physically torture him, beat him down, break his bones, mock him mentally and emotionally, degrade him, make him feel weak and hate-less. has sasuke suffered enough? no? ok. more mental rape for 24 hours
leaving sasuke in a possibly permanent coma he might never have awoken from.

that should help those pesky feelings of sanity happiness, kindness and empathy evaporate real quick.
all this right in front of another innocent genin kid who was probably traumatised for DAYS.

but its not enough.
he had the audacity to try and further manipulate and trick this boy, into thinking he did something he didnt ****in do (kill itachi), get called a hero for something he didnt do (kill oro and itachi), by a village that killed his family and even try to brainwash and mindwipe sasuke with KA when sasuke doesnt turn out how he wants. itachi thinks he can get away with lying to the world to boost up one person's ego?
sasuke, under Koto amatsukami brainwashing and mindwipe, will kill torture and murder. oh but its ok. its SANCTIONED murder. its ORDERED murder by the government. right. so much better.

the reason im so mad about this is mostly because hurting your family is unforgivable in my mind. hurting kids? worse. inflicting torture on innocents? even worse. and itachi covered all three in two scenes. fantastic.

you cant sneak shit past me kishimoto because i smell shit and i reel it back in. he took a huge shit on sasuke's sanity, sasuke's mind, sasuke's parents last wishes, konoha's limits and laws, and humanity/decency in general.

AW WHAT A HERO.
 

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You left out the part where if he hadn't done what he did, everyone would be trapped in the IT right now.
 

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Itachi did that to make sasuke hate him. OK??
 

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You suck.

USSJ Trunks atleast tries to make good Itachi hate/troll threads.
 

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Itachi did that to make sasuke hate him. OK??

torturing him wasnt necessary, if he wanted sasuke stronger he should have told him to embrace love and friendship. where did itachi get it in his head that the only way to make someone stronger is to torture them and make them embrace hate and revenge?
does he think this is how the hokages got so strong?

sauske shouldnt hate anyone in the first place. there was no need to even reveal himself as the uchiha killer. that or just fake his death.
 

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Did you forget that Itachi cried as he left? And also that Itachi loved Sasuke more than anyone else in the world?
 

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Off topic, but the first avatar I saw from USSJ was a Gaara one.
 

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Itachi did that to make sasuke hate him. OK??

And to add on to this.....

If Itachi had not done what he had done then:

-Sasuke would hate Konoha at an earlier age and already have destroyed it long ago.
-The Uchiha clan would lose their honor.
-Sasuke would be considerably weaker. He awakened his 3-tomoe at age 8 due to Itachi's Tsukiyomi. He fought back against Orochimaru in the Forest of Death because he remembered Itachi and how much he hated him. He acquired MS and numerous other types of power along his revenge quest.
-Sasuke needed all of that power, perhaps even more would have been better to survive. He barely beat an old man with a cane, with Karin's healing him from a nearly fatal wound in his fight against Danzo. So many people are after him just because he's an Uchiha. Itachi making sure he was powerful led to him being able to defend himself.

Basically: Sasuke was able to make connections, get power, and live his life. And hundreds of 1000s of people in the shinobi world stayed safe. Doesn't seem bad to me. Sasuke fans just over exaggerate his encounters with Itachi to overplay his plight. When in reality, those encounters only benefited him and gave him something to strive for in life.

torturing him wasnt necessary, if he wanted sasuke stronger he should have told him to embrace love and friendship. where did itachi get it in his head that the only way to make someone stronger is to torture them and make them embrace hate and revenge?
does he think this is how the hokages got so strong?

sauske shouldnt hate anyone in the first place. there was no need to even reveal himself as the uchiha killer. that or just fake his death.

Why are you copy/pasting Ussj's posts? Lol. Hilarious. XD

How could Itachi keep the fact that he was a mass-murderer a secret? He agreed to be a scape goat and as such was placed in the Bingo Book the next day with a bounty. Everyone knew.

Itachi fakes his death ... then Sasuke hears word that he's still alive somehow. Or, Sasuke just lacks power. He'd never attain MS. Who knows when he'd even awaken all 3 of his tomoe. He'd be so behind. lol. Maybe pt1 Kakashi level at best.
 
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Yes, what an interesting plot Naruto would have if Sasuke was a goody-two shoes...
 

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torturing him wasnt necessary, if he wanted sasuke stronger he should have told him to embrace love and friendship. where did itachi get it in his head that the only way to make someone stronger is to torture them and make them embrace hate and revenge?
does he think this is how the hokages got so strong?

sauske shouldnt hate anyone in the first place. there was no need to even reveal himself as the uchiha killer. that or just fake his death.
He wanted to make him awaken his sharingan and MS...plus the only way an uchiha gain power is to gain hatred. And itachi wanted to fight sasuke equally...MS vs MS.
 

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Yes, what an interesting plot Naruto would have if Sasuke was a goody-two shoes...

So itachi is justified in torturing children just so that you can enjoy the story?, thats the most messed up thing i have heard

He wanted to make him awaken his sharingan and MS...plus the only way an uchiha gain power is to gain hatred. And itachi wanted to fight sasuke equally...MS vs MS.

So, Sasuke becoming a strong ninja is supposed to somewhat justify what Itachi did to him?
 

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That's actually the one thing that makes me question whether or not Kishi knew what he was going to do with Itachi in Part 1. However, if I have to try to rationalize it, I think that Itachi expected Sasuke to hate him so much that he would go about getting his revenge without following Itachi's instructions, which is what happened. I just don't think that Itachi expected Sasuke to become evil afterwards. He didn't think that Sasuke would ever learn the truth.
 

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inb4 Chie soloes.

EDIT: Nevermind she already did.
 

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Chie already kicked the OP's ass
 

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Itachi is the master of tough love
 

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So, Sasuke becoming a strong ninja is supposed to somewhat justify what Itachi did to him?
Exactly. If itachi told him the truth, sasuke would have hated konoha and would take revenge from the village... Itachi knew sasuke could become stronger than him,so he did that to somehow protect konoha too.
 

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He didn't want to ruin his secret mission , I mean breaking his arm and using Tsukuyomi on his 13-14 years old little brother was needed .
 

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Actually scrap what I said above. You must feel sympathetic to Itachi OP, since he's actually an erotophonophiliac and a necrophiliac, hence why he wanted to "see himself" do the massacre repeatedly. Itachi is a hero given his condition. The end.
 
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