How Is Hiruzen Able To Beat Tsunade Realistically??

[Joon]

By feats he cannot, it's clear that Hiruzen lacks proper feats seeing as he is the only character from Part I who hasn't gotten proper Part II feats.

However, it's clear to me that once he gets his feats against Obito he will be substantially stronger than Tsunade. His hype [Shinobi no Kami and Purofessa] and manga presence [referred to be one of the stongest Edo Tensei and a Hokage] speaks volumes, but apparently only feats matter to this forum...

Logically in a debate, Hiruzen would lose currently, but soon it'll be clear who is the stronger of the two.

The possibilities or outcomes. I like your answer.

 

[Yo pappy]

sakura>hiruzen.

I think I just died a little inside.

 

[Skywardsword]

Are we in a life-death battle....because...shiki fujin.

 

[Crossroads]

He was just 69, younger then current Onoki who is more then 75.
When the Kyuubi attacked the village, Hiruzen was 56. ( one year older then Tsunade ).

And guess what he said?

Hiruzen: I'll rely on Minato to do my job.

Minato was the Hokage, it was his job to protect the village. It's more of the Hokage's job than anyone else's.

Do you read the Manga Naruto?

 

[MythicDonut]

From what we've seen there isn't much Hiruzen has shown because of the amount of screen time and he was an old man but its still said that he held the title of God of Shinobi. Prime Hiruzen would beat her, Tsunade makes herself young with her jutsu which is an advantage on her behalf. If tsunade fought against Hiruzen with a fair age I don't think would she be able to beat him either.

I still don't think Tsunade could beat hiruzen, it's my opinion but we'll have to wait for Kishimoto to maybe do a flashback and show his strength since it doesn't look like he's gonna get any time to shine in this war.

 

[RNITBmsage]

dude those were mindless zombies as someone else said....u think tsuande would ever die like that? no one alive and non fodder has ever died to an explosive tag..well maybe that akasutki guy hidan...lol but tsunade wouldn't die that way n she survived being split in half..losing a limb might not be enough for her to die



agree all the way



lol what do u mean? i don't think hiruzen can beat tsunade

no one has ever died due to a rasengan , does that mean it wouldnt work either ?

 

[TheEvilOne]

Are we in a life-death battle....because...shiki fujin.

Would be pointless, considering Orochimaru stopped it with physical strength.
Tsunade has Katsuyu who can melt Hiruzen or she can simply shatter the ground under Hiruzen.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Minato was the Hokage, it was his job to protect the village. It's more of the Hokage's job than anyone else's.

Hiruzen was still the Sandaime and treated as such, seeing as there were ANBU still with him.

 

[EnmaMonkeyKing]

The databook implicates that Hiruzen would have been able to successfully RDS Orochimaru rather than settling for his arms as he did in canon, because he wouldn't have been as fragile. The battle itself wouldn't change, only the outcome.

I disagree. I think Prime Hiruzen would have defeated Orochimaru while fighting the Edos. Edo tensei would have been cancelled then.

 

[BlacLord™]

The databook implicates that Hiruzen would have been able to successfully RDS Orochimaru rather than settling for his arms as he did in canon, because he wouldn't have been as fragile. The battle itself wouldn't change, only the outcome.

Current Orochimaru is filled up on Hashirama's cells (the juice). The Orochimaru that Hiruzen fought was soon in need of a new body. Hiruzen was referring to shinobi that weren't in the village that could have taken Part 1 Orochimaru, such as Sage Mode Jiraiya, Onoki, etc.

The battle would've been different, a younger Hiruzen would have more leeway for planning, as more stamina would be in play because he's at least now we've seen he has decent analytical skills.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Minato was the Hokage, it was his job to protect the village. It's more of the Hokage's job than anyone else's.

Do you read the Manga Naruto?

That's fail, considering Hiruzen was hailed as the god of Shinobies and it was stated he is the strongest Hokage.
So the strongest Hokage relied on a boy's help.

Naruo is the main character of the manga, that's why he defeated Pain.
Tsunade did her job, she healed and saved as many villagers as she could. And as far as I remember that's a Hokage's job.

 

[MythicDonut]

There's a troll at work in this post :dunno:

 

[Crossroads]

Hiruzen was still the Sandaime and treated as such, seeing as there were ANBU still with him.

TheEvilOne stated that Hiruzen relied on Minato to protect the village when Hiruzen wasn't the current Hokage.. Minato was.

Proving to me that he's biased, overlooks things, and makes assumptions.

Common quality in Tsuande fanboy's.

 

[TheEvilOne]

TheEvilOne stated that Hiruzen relied on Minato to protect the village when Hiruzen wasn't the current Hokage.. Minato was.

Proving to me that he's biased, overlooks things, and makes assumptions.

Common quality in Tsuande fanboy's.

And you say you aren't a hater. Well that's probably true. You are simply ignorant. And not too bright . Probably because you live in dark, you don't see too much sunlight.

 

[BlacLord™]

That was Base A.

100% A > V1 A >>>>> Base A = Tsunade

You're putting Hiruzen's speed on Tobirama's level and Tsunade (who has no battle speed feats) on par with any Ay?

Wow.

 

[RNITBmsage]

TheEvilOne stated that Hiruzen relied on Minato to protect the village when Hiruzen wasn't the current Hokage.. Minato was.

Proving to me that he's biased, overlooks things, and makes assumptions.

Common quality in Tsuande fanboy's.

wasn't hiruzen aiding in stopping the kyuubi ?

 

[Crossroads]

And you say you aren't a hater. Well that's probably true. You are simply ignorant. And not too bright . Probably because you live in dark, you don't see too much sunlight.

Nothing in that post disproves what I stated. When people run out of things to back up their argument, they result to insults. You make yourself look worse with each post.. But hey, you'll come to your senses one day.

 

[RNITBmsage]

And you say you aren't a hater. Well that's probably true. You are simply ignorant. And not too bright . Probably because you live in dark, you don't see too much sunlight.

but he's right ....

 

[Crossroads]

wasn't hiruzen aiding in stopping the kyuubi ?

Yep. Looks like TheEvilOne had a big bowl of Frosted Fapboy's this morning for breakfast.

 

[Invsblphntm]

The databook implicates that Hiruzen would have been able to successfully RDS Orochimaru rather than settling for his arms as he did in canon, because he wouldn't have been as fragile. The battle itself wouldn't change, only the outcome.

Current Orochimaru is filled up on Hashirama's cells (the juice). The Orochimaru that Hiruzen fought was soon in need of a new body. Hiruzen was referring to shinobi that weren't in the village that could have taken Part 1 Orochimaru, such as Sage Mode Jiraiya, Onoki, etc.

The Databook states the outcome of the battle would change at the point he was using the Shiki Fujin you are correct. The Databook, even besides this point, further implies Hiruzen was holding back against Orochimaru even to the end because of his extreme love for his student.

Orochimaru was only in desperate need of a body after the fight in which he took that one ninja's body who defeated the rest of the Otogakure ninja in a battle. He wasn't in need of one at the time for he wasn't in the same agonizing pain he was in the time after the fight. It was also stated that Hiruzen was the strongest of the Gokage, if Hiruzen couldn't stop Orochimaru neither could Part I Ohnoki.