[Discussion] How important are Morals to you?

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How important are morals to you?



Do you have a moral code?



Are those who believe in "freedom and person being able to do what they want", better to those who follow a moral code?


Why is the phrase "trying to be a hero" or phrases similar to that phrase, used for those people who don't follow the crowd and make a good moral decision.


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- A girl is being teased around by couple of guys, she is visibly drunk. The dudes are simply taking advantage of the fact that shes drunk, and trying to get laid. Now, do you go in and stop them OR do you simply let things be since its none of your business and not your life?



- Now, if a man was bullying around some elderly folks, such as making them lift heavy objects, that people of their age shouldn't be lifting. While, himself not doing anything. Do you confront the man OR do you simply let things be , since again none of your business and not your life?


- Two men are fighting in middle of a street, one of them is getting pounded and is a mess. And there is obviously someone at fault and there is a right and wrong between those 2. There are also people recording the fight with their phones to post it on youtube or facebook. You see everyone there in a circle and see the 2 dudes fighting. Do you go in to stop them, or stand there with the crowd because again its none of your business and not you life?



- A student cusses out a teacher, for giving him a punishment, which he didn't deserve, but got into due to a misunderstanding. Is it ok for the student to cuss at the teacher?


- A racist Cop shoots down 2 innocent civilians, who were living by themselves. In couple of days, in order to take revenge against the cops (because cops are not members of society and don't come from us) 2 Cops are killed, but the 2 policemen were innocent as well and had families, and were against racism. Now is the public right to kill the cops as a revenge for the civilians that were killed? Or is it justifiable in any case?





Lets have a good discussion. :)
 
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My moral code is based on:
-Charity and honesty.

So, I'd say moral is very important to me.
 
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1) you should stop them. Unless the girl says it is okay, there is no right to pressure anyone (male or female) to doing something they might regret in the morning. Especially when they are intoxicated and not in 100% in control of what they are doing.

2) if anyone bully's elderly people, that should be stopped immediately. What are the old af people going to do? Stop someone 20 when they are 70-80 years old? No they can't, so that should be dealt with.

3) if there is a reason someone should get their a** beat, then by God let them have it. But if there is a chance they could die or have repercussions that will affect them mentally or physically, then no. Let them know you are stronger, other than that, no need to pick on the weak.

4) it really depends on the grade and maturity level of the student. If he didnt deserve it, yet while he did whatever he did riles up classmates, yes he did deserve to be made an example out of.

5) the last one I have no answer for. I'm sorry
 

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I'll do anything to get what I want. I don't care if it's right or wrong.
 

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Side questions:



- A girl is being teased around by couple of guys, she is visibly drunk. The dudes are simply taking advantage of the fact that shes drunk, and trying to get laid. Now, do you go in and stop them OR do you simply let things be since its none of your business and not your life?

It depends on the situation. If I happen to be with my friend and saw the incident I will help the girl but if I'm alone better to call police. Even though I know Martial Art:)


- Now, if a man was bullying around some elderly folks, such as making them lift heavy objects, that people of their age shouldn't be lifting. While, himself not doing anything. Do you confront the man OR do you simply let things be , since again none of your business and not your life?

It happen infront of me twice and I taught that teenagers the meaning of respect. Both incidents done by Teenagers

- Two men are fighting in middle of a street, one of them is getting pounded and is a mess. And there is obviously someone at fault and there is a right and wrong between those 2. There are also people recording the fight with their phones to post it on youtube or facebook. You see everyone there in a circle and see the 2 dudes fighting. Do you go in to stop them, or stand there with the crowd because again its none of your business and not you life?

Better call police for me.

- A student cusses out a teacher, for giving him a punishment, which he didn't deserve, but got into due to a misunderstanding. Is it ok for the student to cuss at the teacher?

Not OK

- A racist Cop shoots down 2 innocent civilians, who were living by themselves. In couple of days, in order to take revenge against the cops (because cops are not members of society and don't come from us) 2 Cops are killed, but the 2 policemen were innocent as well and had families, and were against racism. Now is the public right to kill the cops as a revenge for the civilians that were killed? Or is it justifiable in any case?

Public dont have right to act by themselves.

Yes I have my own Moral Code.
 
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My morals are based on Charity,honesty,pride,respect,insanity.
 

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My simple way to answer this is. To get respect from me you have to give it. I can say I am hot headed and can sometimes cuss at people. But that's only when I have been disrespected. Teachers have learned the hard way not to disrespect me in any way
 

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My moral code is: Don't be a D*ck. Obviously, it doesn't apply to me.I'm allowed to be a Duck all i want. Quack Quack Muthaf*ckas!
 

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- A girl is being teased around by couple of guys, she is visibly drunk. The dudes are simply taking advantage of the fact that shes drunk, and trying to get laid. Now, do you go in and stop them OR do you simply let things be since its none of your business and not your life?
Being drunk doesn't take away responsibility for your choices and actions. Neither does it take away the consequences so no, I wouldn't stop them. I have no right to. Another thing is girls usually get drunk to give themselves an excuse to do things that are frowned upon like screwing a bunch of guys at once.



- Now, if a man was bullying around some elderly folks, such as making them lift heavy objects, that people of their age shouldn't be lifting. While, himself not doing anything. Do you confront the man OR do you simply let things be , since again none of your business and not your life?
I would observe the situation before getting involved. These scenarios are how guys trying to play hero lose their lives and I don't want to potentially die over something that has nothing to do with me. I would step in and ask the elderly why they are listening to this person and tell him to go away, I will even fight if I have to but I'd rather avoid a confrontation in the street.


- Two men are fighting in middle of a street, one of them is getting pounded and is a mess. And there is obviously someone at fault and there is a right and wrong between those 2. There are also people recording the fight with their phones to post it on youtube or facebook. You see everyone there in a circle and see the 2 dudes fighting. Do you go in to stop them, or stand there with the crowd because again its none of your business and not you life?
I see nothing wrong here, simply two guys going at it and I'm not aware of what caused it so I'll just watch.



- A student cusses out a teacher, for giving him a punishment, which he didn't deserve, but got into due to a misunderstanding. Is it ok for the student to cuss at the teacher?
Yes because he was mistreated.


- A racist Cop shoots down 2 innocent civilians, who were living by themselves. In couple of days, in order to take revenge against the cops (because cops are not members of society and don't come from us) 2 Cops are killed, but the 2 policemen were innocent as well and had families, and were against racism. Now is the public right to kill the cops as a revenge for the civilians that were killed? Or is it justifiable in any case?
It's simply the cycle of hatred going around. The racist cop was in the wrong and should've been killed but the public couldn't find him, nor did they know he wasn't from the US.
 

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Being drunk doesn't take away responsibility for your choices and actions. Neither does it take away the consequences so no, I wouldn't stop them. I have no right to. Another thing is girls usually get drunk to give themselves an excuse to do things that are frowned upon like screwing a bunch of guys at once.



I would observe the situation before getting involved. These scenarios are how guys trying to play hero lose their lives and I don't want to potentially die over something that has nothing to do with me. I would step in and ask the elderly why they are listening to this person and tell him to go away, I will even fight if I have to but I'd rather avoid a confrontation in the street.


I see nothing wrong here, simply two guys going at it and I'm not aware of what caused it so I'll just watch.



Yes because he was mistreated.


It's simply the cycle of hatred going around. The racist cop was in the wrong and should've been killed but the public couldn't find him, nor did they know he wasn't from the US.

Exactly this lol. But if the guy still gets beaten whilst laying on the floor, I'd interfere.
 

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How important are morals to you?



Do you have a moral code?



Are those who believe in "freedom and person being able to do what they want", better to those who follow a moral code?


Why is the phrase "trying to be a hero" or phrases similar to that phrase, used for those people who don't follow the crowd and make a good moral decision.


Side questions:



- A girl is being teased around by couple of guys, she is visibly drunk. The dudes are simply taking advantage of the fact that shes drunk, and trying to get laid. Now, do you go in and stop them OR do you simply let things be since its none of your business and not your life?



- Now, if a man was bullying around some elderly folks, such as making them lift heavy objects, that people of their age shouldn't be lifting. While, himself not doing anything. Do you confront the man OR do you simply let things be , since again none of your business and not your life?


- Two men are fighting in middle of a street, one of them is getting pounded and is a mess. And there is obviously someone at fault and there is a right and wrong between those 2. There are also people recording the fight with their phones to post it on youtube or facebook. You see everyone there in a circle and see the 2 dudes fighting. Do you go in to stop them, or stand there with the crowd because again its none of your business and not you life?



- A student cusses out a teacher, for giving him a punishment, which he didn't deserve, but got into due to a misunderstanding. Is it ok for the student to cuss at the teacher?


- A racist Cop shoots down 2 innocent civilians, who were living by themselves. In couple of days, in order to take revenge against the cops (because cops are not members of society and don't come from us) 2 Cops are killed, but the 2 policemen were innocent as well and had families, and were against racism. Now is the public right to kill the cops as a revenge for the civilians that were killed? Or is it justifiable in any case?





Lets have a good discussion. :)

Situation one: I've never been in that type of situation but I'd probably get one of her friend's to pull her off to the side and keep an eye on her.


Sit 2: I'd have to think about why this man is making these old people lift heavy objects. How do I know this isn't their job or something or that they don't enjoy lifting shit?

Sit 3: Of course I don't stop two men fighting. Thats a danger to myself and of course, none of my business.

Sit 4:Taking another life in retaliation to the first murder is horrible. How does killing the guilty in question show that killing is wrong?The guilty cops should have been taken through the right legal channels.
 

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heh, morals are easly the best thing our human civilization ever developed through time

1. - well, i suppose i teach them the definition of an RKO

2. this man will know what a true heavy object is

3. if the fight isnt entertaining me in some ways, then will all eat dust for dinner, or in any special case i show them the pecking order

4.- yes he is able to

5. human conflicts are none of my business, since most of them always end up giving our race/society a bad name
 
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How important are morals to you?



Do you have a moral code?



Are those who believe in "freedom and person being able to do what they want", better to those who follow a moral code?


Why is the phrase "trying to be a hero" or phrases similar to that phrase, used for those people who don't follow the crowd and make a good moral decision.


Side questions:

Yes I have a moral code, I don't believe in god but most of our morals are religious based.

No they're not, they just think of themself and cause trouble to many others.

Idk.



- A girl is being teased around by couple of guys, she is visibly drunk. The dudes are simply taking advantage of the fact that shes drunk, and trying to get laid. Now, do you go in and stop them OR do you simply let things be since its none of your business and not your life?

It's her fault if she drinks too much. Everyone's responsible for their actions.


- Now, if a man was bullying around some elderly folks, such as making them lift heavy objects, that people of their age shouldn't be lifting. While, himself not doing anything. Do you confront the man OR do you simply let things be , since again none of your business and not your life?

Why should they listen?




- Two men are fighting in middle of a street, one of them is getting pounded and is a mess. And there is obviously someone at fault and there is a right and wrong between those 2. There are also people recording the fight with their phones to post it on youtube or facebook. You see everyone there in a circle and see the 2 dudes fighting. Do you go in to stop them, or stand there with the crowd because again its none of your business and not you life?

It depends of who gets beaten.



- A student cusses out a teacher, for giving him a punishment, which he didn't deserve, but got into due to a misunderstanding. Is it ok for the student to cuss at the teacher?

If he does it silently and does not bother anyone else with it.


- A racist Cop shoots down 2 innocent civilians, who were living by themselves. In couple of days, in order to take revenge against the cops (because cops are not members of society and don't come from us) 2 Cops are killed, but the 2 policemen were innocent as well and had families, and were against racism. Now is the public right to kill the cops as a revenge for the civilians that were killed? Or is it justifiable in any case?

No, it's not. It's not justifiable in any case.
"Innocent", sure. They're always "innocent".



Lets have a good discussion. :)
 
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Some good replies. Lets see if we can get more people to answer/reply.
 

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How important are morals to you?



Do you have a moral code?
They are like standard to me. If something does not agrees with it they loose my respect.
But I have no impact on what people do around me. So it hardly matters, at most I would rant about it among friends who think the same and thats it.

Are those who believe in "freedom and person being able to do what they want", better to those who follow a moral code?

don't even those freedom people have their own moral codes, some kind of sanity of what they should not do?

Why is the phrase "trying to be a hero" or phrases similar to that phrase, used for those people who don't follow the crowd and make a good moral decision.
Because people are surviving and have to realize who and what they are and what they are capable of doing, trying to be a hero sometimes has unwanted consequences. Anybody could save dogs life but to be in a corrupt organization and 'doing the right thing' is another thing.
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- A girl is being teased around by couple of guys, she is visibly drunk. The dudes are simply taking advantage of the fact that shes drunk, and trying to get laid. Now, do you go in and stop them OR do you simply let things be since its none of your business and not your life?
Dudes could be her friends or boy friends, and some days later everything is twisted and you might end up in legal troubles. Unless you know the girl do not try to be a white knight.

- Now, if a man was bullying around some elderly folks, such as making them lift heavy objects, that people of their age shouldn't be lifting. While, himself not doing anything. Do you confront the man OR do you simply let things be , since again none of your business and not your life?
I would feel bad and walk away, unless there is something in my capacity to do. I have witnessed child labors they do it for money. If get them out of job they wont be having money for food.

- Two men are fighting in middle of a street, one of them is getting pounded and is a mess. And there is obviously someone at fault and there is a right and wrong between those 2. There are also people recording the fight with their phones to post it on youtube or facebook. You see everyone there in a circle and see the 2 dudes fighting. Do you go in to stop them, or stand there with the crowd because again its none of your business and not you life?
I am not getting into fight, when I am not able to save myself. I walk away, may be call the police.

- A student cusses out a teacher, for giving him a punishment, which he didn't deserve, but got into due to a misunderstanding. Is it ok for the student to cuss at the teacher?
Cussing behind back, it is temporary rather I find it is wrong to be angry and saying something to someone right to their face when they did not deserved it. Here teacher deserved it but it is not in the students interest to protest by cursing he has to find another way. So it is wrong in that sense.


- A racist Cop shoots down 2 innocent civilians, who were living by themselves. In couple of days, in order to take revenge against the cops (because cops are not members of society and don't come from us) 2 Cops are killed, but the 2 policemen were innocent as well and had families, and were against racism. Now is the public right to kill the cops as a revenge for the civilians that were killed? Or is it justifiable in any case?
Unless there was nothing they can do to change the way organization acted over racist cop, it is a civil war. Those 2 would be members of the organization which protects racist cops.
 

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They're very importent

yeah ! i do

let's say there's people that believe in freedom and do things in their own way yet follow morals though they might've been based on their own beliefs

is that pharase used that way ? don't know maybe didn't care

Cant say for sure what i will do in those situations but i won't let it be probably will do something thinking quickly .

and last one will you be a good civillian, if you did that ? that's a question people that thinks doing something like that must ask themselves rationally not going wild on emotions .
 
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Yeah I have my own morals, I'm pretty sure everyone by the age of 18 has them. But I'm also aware of the mass morality people carry as well.

To me mine are important of course.
 

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I can't say that I have a strict moral code that I consciously follow. I just behave as it is natural to me, and I'm naturally nice and honest (if not blunt), but distant. I don't have any drive to do what is considered amoral by the society, so I don't do it. I have a strong sense of duty though, even when it's not necessary, and I'm instinctively protective of people I know.

As for the side questions, 1-3 - I wouldn't get involved myself (for self-preservation) but I'd try to get someone who would. 4 - I think that cussing isn't something unforgivable, so it may not be "justified", but if it was done by a kid, and on impulse, any teacher who's wise enough would just move on. 5 - murder is never the answer.
 
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