How I believe Kishi's peace will be established in Naruto

Rokudaime Hokage Naruto

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Throughout the series we've seen characters acting under the notion that they want to establish peace and a world without winners or losers.

Madara/Obito - IT takes away peoples free wills and makes them slaves. This is arguably the most effective way to establish peace but it comes at the cost of free will. However there is the added bonus that it can create an illogical world in which everyone wins - this is because it is a genjutsu.

Nagato - He wanted to create a massive weapon out of the bijuus and set it off, he would then give this weapon to every country. The resulting horrors from the use of the weapon would cause Shinobi's to live in peace for as long as the horrors stay in memory. Nagato himself admits the weapons would be used again and again repeating a cycle of horror then a few decades of peace.

Naruto - he wants to find another way to make peace but hasn't noticed that he (with some help) is part the way there. At this moment all the hatred in the world is focused on Madara (not Madara's intention) by defeating Madara, Naruto (and Sasuke) will ensure that all this hatred dies with Madara (similar to Code Geass - I won't spoil it if you haven't seen it). This is similar to Nagato's plan in that Shinobis faced horrors at the hands of Madara. However instead of just having a 'negative peace' (peace because of horror) a hero will also be present giving Shinobi's someone to aspire too instead of just a horror to be fearful of - this is what I think will happen.


I've seen a lot of threads recently asking something along the lines of "isn't Obito and Madara doing the right thing?" but in my opinion peace is meaningless if you take away free will. It's almost like saying if you kill everyone then there would be peace. In this situation I believe it is preferable not to have peace which is why I think Naruto is (accidently) doing the right thing.

This leads me to my final point.

Madara (or whoever the final villian is) will be the reason for the establishment of peace and Naruto (and maybe Sasuke) were chosen to be the ones to beat that final villain and remove hatred from the world.
 

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yep, i agree with the last sentence more
 

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hatred can't be removed lol its an emotion
 

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So basically a reverse of Kaguya, rather than use power to rule the world through fear, Naruto will use the power to protect the world and people will follow him out of admiration rather than fear.

Basically he is the reverse of Kaguya.

Its an interesting idea.
 

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Sasuke is the final villain.
 

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What is the differance between somebody having free will in the real world, and somebody having free will in their own fake Genjutsu world. That's like saying if I'm not looking at that object, than is it really there. I do agree with you however though. I don't believe Madara's plan is really infinite Tsukiyomi though. I think he just wants as much power as possible, and he wants to fight because he's fukin crazy.
 

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I strongly agree with this thread, although there will never be 100% peace in world because there will always be someone who wants to do something and bla bla.

Dope, dope, dope.
 

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If you ask me, Nagato had the right idea.
 

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What is the differance between somebody having free will in the real world, and somebody having free will in their own fake Genjutsu world. That's like saying if I'm not looking at that object, than is it really there. I do agree with you however though. I don't believe Madara's plan is really infinite Tsukiyomi though. I think he just wants as much power as possible, and he wants to fight because he's fukin crazy.

Yeah Kishi had a problem with selling IT almost too much which is why he introduced the fact that it drained their energy and made them slaves to the Shinju. In theory it might be preferable, however it isn't real and the simple fact people can't opt out which makes it immoral.

I strongly agree with this thread, although there will never be 100% peace in world because there will always be someone who wants to do something and bla bla.

Dope, dope, dope.

Yeah I agree but it seems like the best option.
 

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Yeah Kishi had a problem with selling IT almost too much which is why he introduced the fact that it drained their energy and made them slaves to the Shinju. In theory it might be preferable, however it isn't real and the simple fact people can't opt out which makes it immoral.



Yeah I agree but it seems like the best option.

Nice GIF't btw.
 

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Peace where there will be no war is possible...

...but still, there will be no absolute peace. Criminals will always exist and people will always be scared of them. Police force and laws are still needed.
 

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I don't understand how "true peace" as Naruto put it can be achieved. All this talk about connecting with people, well there's a problem - will this "connected and allowing people to understand eachover" thing be optional? Because if Naruto forces people "to understand and connect" then he's no better then Obito. There will always be hatred in the world, there's always someone. What if someone doesn't want to understand?
 

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I don't understand how "true peace" as Naruto put it can be achieved. All this talk about connecting with people, well there's a problem - will this "connected and allowing people to understand eachover" thing be optional? Because if Naruto forces people "to understand and connect" then he's no better then Obito. There will always be hatred in the world, there's always someone. What if someone doesn't want to understand?

He can't force people to understand, what Kishi is building towards is the Ninshou the Sage developed, Chakra was given to people so they could connect using Ninshou.

Most likely Naruto will try to bring the world to slowly accept Ninshou over Ninjutsu.
 

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He can't force people to understand, what Kishi is building towards is the Ninshou the Sage developed, Chakra was given to people so they could connect using Ninshou.

Most likely Naruto will try to bring the world to slowly accept Ninshou over Ninjutsu.

^^^This....
 

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I agree with this + Naruto will use ninshuu and connect everybody's emotions
 

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Okay, and what if people don't want to connect. That's the problem. There's always going to be people with hatred. To bring "true peace" and destroy the cycle of hatred is pure naivety.
 
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