How Hashirama can defend/counter the six paths.

[LolaxXx]

your right speculation noone has been seen to have more chakra then nagato so far that was where i was coming from and my 4th point below shows you why nagato probably has more chakra

Madara has only shown preta path so speculation until proven otherwise and how would that help him stop getting crushed all speculation

Nagato can counter everything tobi and Tobi can phase through everything he throws sooner or later tobi has to attack if hes caught with a shinra tensei he would be seriously because his body is weak also thats not right nagato can use gedo without syncing he killed hanzos men before and used gedo while sealing the beasts

Tobi cannot fight while controlling the beasts as it costs to much chakra another indication about his chakra level to nagatos as he fought konoha and the kyubbi with his paths and still had chakra to revive konoha

simply put naruto cannot destroy celestial tera sphere alone unless his tbb = bees tbb+rasen shurrikan and yaska ?

kabuto alone would lose fairly quickly add edo madara he has a good chance

WOW...your over here talking about speculations. Read what you post, your a living, breathing, typing contridiction.:sy:

 

[arv993]

your right speculation noone has been seen to have more chakra then nagato so far that was where i was coming from and my 4th point below shows you why nagato probably has more chakra

Madara has only shown preta path so speculation until proven otherwise and how would that help him stop getting crushed all speculation

Nagato can counter everything tobi and Tobi can phase through everything he throws sooner or later tobi has to attack if hes caught with a shinra tensei he would be seriously because his body is weak also thats not right nagato can use gedo without syncing he killed hanzos men before and used gedo while sealing the beasts

Tobi cannot fight while controlling the beasts as it costs to much chakra another indication about his chakra level to nagatos as he fought konoha and the kyubbi with his paths and still had chakra to revive konoha

simply put naruto cannot destroy celestial tera sphere alone unless his tbb = bees tbb+rasen shurrikan and yaska ?

kabuto alone would lose fairly quickly add edo madara he has a good chance

first of all you do realize that nagato does not have the greatest base chakra. during his fight with naruto and jiraya he does have preta path to absorb a lot of chakra where do you think that goes.

Madara has the rinnegan lol and he has powerful techs like multiple yaska magatama attacks. And of course he didnt show all his techs cos he barely got shown but as stated he is the trump card for a reason. he has ems+ rinnegan giving him a good advantage over nagato.

nagato can't beat tobi cos he can't hit him Aand tobi knos about the interval lol why would he attack during it and he can warp him or just kill him with a weapon since nagato is slow and not to mention he can avoid all his techs. plus he has rinnegan to back him up.

tobi can fight during his beasts are there he was about to kill naruto right b4 kakashi and gai saved him.

LOL naruto has 12 km clones he can use multiple frs and he has kyubi+ his chakra so he can destroy celestial spehere without any problems. ALL his clones were not there where he fought nagato.

kabuto has edo madara who is the trump card who is better than nagato already but he also has itachi, muu, 3rd raikage and many others no way is nagato gonna win

And you are speculating that tobi and madara cant use other powers. Tobi used gedo mazo and said he could have used other paths like human. Madara has used the meteor which was much bigger than nagato's and has used preta so why cant he use the rest of its powers

 

[arv993]

A healthy Nagato is blatently the strongest shinobi, aside from Edo Madara and So6P.

nope tobi, madara, naruto and kabuto are all superior

 

[Kira was Righteous]

WOW...your over here talking about speculations. Read what you post, your a living, breathing, typing contridiction.:sy:

i want you to highlight every point in there that is speculationand i can look to the manga for evidence if this was too make you appear smart you failed

 

[Ryuu..]

nope tobi, madara, naruto and kabuto are all superior

Not Tobi. Not Naruto 100%. Not Kabuto. Only Madara.

 

[LolaxXx]

i want you to highlight every point in there that is speculationand i can look to the manga for evidence if this was too make you appear smart you failed

"how can i convince you ? you will disregard anything i say all i have to say is Nagato can counter everything hashirama has and there is no way that hashirama can survive a celestial tera sphere"

so stfu

 

[arv993]

Not Tobi. Not Naruto 100%. Not Kabuto. Only Madara.

again u have no explanations even against naruto and just say he is 90% ninjutsu lol. How much a fanboy are you. kabuto has too many edos lol and one of them is madara Lmfao

 

[Kira was Righteous]

first of all you do realize that nagato does not have the greatest base chakra. during his fight with naruto and jiraya he does have preta path to absorb a lot of chakra where do you think that goes.

Madara has the rinnegan lol and he has powerful techs like multiple yaska magatama attacks. And of course he didnt show all his techs cos he barely got shown but as stated he is the trump card for a reason. he has ems+ rinnegan giving him a good advantage over nagato.

nagato can't beat tobi cos he can't hit him Aand tobi knos about the interval lol why would he attack during it and he can warp him or just kill him with a weapon since nagato is slow and not to mention he can avoid all his techs. plus he has rinnegan to back him up.

tobi can fight during his beasts are there he was about to kill naruto right b4 kakashi and gai saved him.

LOL naruto has 12 km clones he can use multiple frs and he has kyubi+ his chakra so he can destroy celestial spehere without any problems. ALL his clones were not there where he fought nagato.

kabuto has edo madara who is the trump card who is better than nagato already but he also has itachi, muu, 3rd raikage and many others no way is nagato gonna win

who has more chakra then nagato ? naruto and kisame are slightly debatable tobi is not imo

i didn't realise tobi knew about the interval he must be well informed by konoha shinobi- sarcasm

Tobi cannot fight alongside with his beasts hes busy controlling them via gedo i believe correct me if im wrong seems a bit odd tobi is on the sidelines not helping ... plot no justu possibly

if naruto could destroy it alone he would of i really doubt he can spam RS at it while firing a TBB it has to all be together remember

Madara was kabutos trump card because he completed him beyond his prime he also is leverage other tobi its not necessarily to do with power but considering madaras strength possibly but certainly not basis for madara > nagato

 

[arv993]

Naruto beats him and the reason why
BM + his clones in sm or km + his summons he can beat nagato


Shinra tensei- beaten by kuruma as seen by six tails easily resistng and pushing back deva's shinra tensei. nagato is stronger but so is ninetails compared to six tails

CT- he can destoy that with his large scale tbb or even a bunch of clones throwing rasenshuriken and now he has his own chakra plus kyubi to do this

preta path and human path-nagato has to be close to nagato to actually get all his chakra and naruto being one of the fastest ninja it aint gonna happen

And nagato's summons can be beaten by naruto's oad army especially if he has pa and ma

Naruto has many clones for distraction and has good counters to nagato and he can definitely hit nagato seeing his superiority in numbers, speed and even raw power now.


Kabuto has more than enough edos and one them is madara which is enough.

TObi has multiple biju+rinnegan+can avoid any of nagato's techs or warp him. LOL how is he weaker

 

[Kira was Righteous]

"how can i convince you ? you will disregard anything i say all i have to say is Nagato can counter everything hashirama has and there is no way that hashirama can survive a celestial tera sphere"

so stfu

give me something shown by hashirama that would either destroy nagatos celestial tera sphere or somehow avoid it ... you can't

Name me something of hashiramas that nagato can't counter

 

[arv993]

who has more chakra then nagato ? naruto and kisame are slightly debatable tobi is not imo

i didn't realise tobi knew about the interval he must be well informed by konoha shinobi- sarcasm

Tobi cannot fight alongside with his beasts hes busy controlling them via gedo i believe correct me if im wrong seems a bit odd tobi is on the sidelines not helping ... plot no justu possibly

if naruto could destroy it alone he would of i really doubt he can spam RS at it while firing a TBB it has to all be together remember

Madara was kabutos trump card because he completed him beyond his prime he also is leverage other tobi its not necessarily to do with power but considering madaras strength possibly but certainly not basis for madara > nagato

Kisame does go to naruto wiki(dont kno the pg number) where they mention that pain himself said it but that is if u trust a wiki. Raikages, naruto or kisame are all big chakra monsters like nagato. Still who said tobi has small amounts of chakra you are speculating on that.


LOL naruto has 12 km clones each can throw an Frs not 12 but 4 should be enough, he doesnt need tbb.

tobi did fight when his jinchurkis were there in biju form

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That makes it Madara<nagato wow that is not speculation lmao i am not gonna bother with that

As soon as nagato was sealed he said let me use my trump card which was madara not nagato and this is purely due to his strength not leverage. You are so in denial that its funny

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Kisame does go to naruto wiki(dont kno the pg number) where they mention that pain himself said it but that is if u trust a wiki. Raikages, naruto or kisame are all big chakra monsters like nagato. Still who said tobi has small amounts of chakra you are speculating on that.


LOL naruto has 12 km clones each can throw an Frs not 12 but 4 should be enough, he doesnt need tbb.

tobi did fight when his jinchurkis were there in biju form

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i never said tobi has a small amount of chakra just not as much as nagato and ive backed it up

leave the naruto issue its a mute point even by some miracle and you are right Nagatos preta and deva path would make it impossible to attack him without taijjustu and if he resorted to that a edo zombie nagato beat him with asura

i have not seen him fighting alongside his paths i saw that bit but hes not on the ground fighting with them besides its irrelevant because tobi agreed with kakashis analysis that he wants to conserve chakra and controlling them takes a lot of his maybe thats why he is who knows

 

[arv993]

i didn't realise tobi knew about the interval he must be well informed by konoha shinobi- sarcasm

so in your world only nagato knows about tobi's techs such as s/t jutsu but tobi doesnt know about nagato lol. And tobi knew about his gedo mazo, rinne tensei jutsu and his human path but did not know there was a time interval with his shinra tensei lol. another contradiction in your words.

 

[Ryuu..]

It's laughable at how stupid some people in this thread actually are U_U

 

[arv993]

i never said tobi has a small amount of chakra just not as much as nagato and ive backed it up

leave the naruto issue its a mute point even by some miracle and you are right Nagatos preta and deva path would make it impossible to attack him without taijjustu and if he resorted to that a edo zombie nagato beat him with asura

i have not seen him fighting alongside his paths i saw that bit but hes not on the ground fighting with them besides its irrelevant because tobi agreed with kakashis analysis that he wants to conserve chakra and controlling them takes a lot of his maybe thats why he is who knows

NO you just speculated that and there is agood reason tobi has good chakra reserve which is due to him gaining senju cells which can get him to be closer to the body of ths sage which means increased stamina and physical energy as said in the manga

an edo nagato beat him beacuse he had none of his other 11 kage level clones tpo help nor his summons so he was not in the best form. Second deva wont work on naruto since kyubi can resist and even push back nagato as seen by deva path with six tails and how is preta path supposed abosrb frog katas. Naruto has 12 km clones+ his biju mode+ a bunch sm clones and one hit from frog kata and nagato is dead not to mention the fact that they are all faster than nagato. nagato just aint gonna win lol

that is called fighting he was about to just kill naruto. dont just ignore that.there were his paths on the ground in theirbiju mode and he still attacked him.

 

[Mr.Beastie]

first of all you do realize that nagato does not have the greatest base chakra. during his fight with naruto and jiraya he does have preta path to absorb a lot of chakra where do you think that goes.

Madara has the rinnegan lol and he has powerful techs like multiple yaska magatama attacks. And of course he didnt show all his techs cos he barely got shown but as stated he is the trump card for a reason. he has ems+ rinnegan giving him a good advantage over nagato.

nagato can't beat tobi cos he can't hit him Aand tobi knos about the interval lol why would he attack during it and he can warp him or just kill him with a weapon since nagato is slow and not to mention he can avoid all his techs. plus he has rinnegan to back him up.

tobi can fight during his beasts are there he was about to kill naruto right b4 kakashi and gai saved him.

LOL naruto has 12 km clones he can use multiple frs and he has kyubi+ his chakra so he can destroy celestial spehere without any problems. ALL his clones were not there where he fought nagato.

kabuto has edo madara who is the trump card who is better than nagato already but he also has itachi, muu, 3rd raikage and many others no way is nagato gonna win

And you are speculating that tobi and madara cant use other powers. Tobi used gedo mazo and said he could have used other paths like human. Madara has used the meteor which was much bigger than nagato's and has used preta so why cant he use the rest of its powers

MADARA cant use the other powers because he only awakened the rinnengan right before his death....

 

[LolaxXx]

give me something shown by hashirama that would either destroy nagatos celestial tera sphere or somehow avoid it ... you can't

Name me something of hashiramas that nagato can't counter

of course I cant, until it shows hashirama go all out, then I can, same to you.
the point your making is basicaly saying...

Nagato with all his powers, vs hashirama holding back.

 

[arv993]

MADARA cant use the other powers because he only awakened the rinnengan right before his death....

yes b4 his death he did awake it but not like 2 seconds b4 lol.

yet he could use techs like the meteors just like that and used techs like preta path in a crucial moment. Of course he knows how to use it and one does not have to have to learn something for a long to be able to use it. sasuke in a span of a day learned how to use his sussano and even knew to make it to final version, arrows in his sussano, to use amaterasu as a shield. And madara who was the most talented uchiha known can't use the power of the each of paths lol are you kidding me. he is obviously holding back with the kages right now so he isnt showing all his powers not even his ems powers.

 

[arv993]

It's laughable at how stupid some people in this thread actually are U_U

yea thats why sometimes I laugh especially when you overrate nagato beyond belief.

 

[narutownsyouall]

give me something shown by hashirama that would either destroy nagatos celestial tera sphere or somehow avoid it ... you can't

Name me something of hashiramas that nagato can't counter

He doesnt need to destroy it but he can survive it and would definatly not die from it especially if Tsunade can save a whole bunch of people from dying from it and he can make a kokuton cage or move out of the way through the ground similar to how zetsu moves