Pretty much the title, but with these considerations :
Its manga fact that KSM Naruto and Susano'o Armor EMS Sasuke duo is stronger then Juubito.
Now I was wandering how would they fare against Madara in these 2 situations :
1 -Pre-Rikudou Madara
2 - Rikudou Madara
IMO I think they could beat extremily Hight diff against Pre-Rikudou Madara, but would fall to the current Madara.
What are your thoughts on the matter?
Actually they were far weaker and Naruto was in BSM when he was fighting Juubito with Sasuke but his BSM was barely at halve power due to Yang Kurama being out of chakra and borrowing from Yin Kurama then both giving a ton to the Alliance so Minato can FTG them. After a few moves in BSM and BM, Naruto had all his chakra absorbed and Minato had most of his before FTG out of the Tree's grasp. Naruto then got the rest of Yin Kurama's chakra which wouldn''t me that much due to Minato using the chakra since arriving on the field, using Bijuu Rasengan, aid in creating a tbb, then having most of it absorbed from the god tree.
Naruto and Sasuke couldn't even touch Juubito since he blocked all their attacks then knocked them back. Before that, they have the help from the Edo Hokages and while fighting Juubito, Naruto called some of the K11 to aid him and gave them BM. Juubito called the Sage's sword the sword of souls, as he attacked, his soul wasn't into it since he started to imagine his life if he returned to the village instead of staying with Madara. Everyone should know it's not the weapon that decides the fight, it's the sword's wielder ad Obito wasn't into it. Only way the slash even worked was because of the chakra Naruto got from the Bijuu's and it doesn't seem like he has that anymore.
Hmmm, but this duo managed to win a demi-God. Even with all those feats, Pre-Rikudou Madara would not have an easy time against them.
Actually edo Madara would have an easy time, Naruto and Sasuke were given their powers with little to no training so it's not like they have full control over their power nor how to fully use them. Sasuke's might have a better concept of how his eyes works since it's the same as MS but without the going blind and it's stronger so he just needs to learn it's limits and how to use it fully. Naruto had incomplete training with KM, no training at all for BM or BSM. Both lack a lot of skills compared to Madara who is top notch in all aspects. Can't beat in in Taijutsu, he's not getting beat by genjutsu (he was the only person known to put A in a genjutsu), and his ninjutsu is so powerful that all you have to do is compare his katon to Sasuke's. The guy can drop meteors on them, yes they can most likely destroy the meteors with some teamwork but there's at least 2 coming down and that would take their attention off Madara while also making them use a lot of power.
Even though current Madara is stronger than Juubito keep in mind that Naruto/Sasuke Duo had enough firepower to destroy the sages sword and extract (with the help of the rest of the Shinobi Alliance) the Juubi from Obito. SO no Obito didn't loose because of TNJ. He lost to the power of "friendship"
Madara will loos the same way. Not through sheer power but the power of "friendship" maybe even TNJ. As he is now and even before his Rikudo Status. The boys of Team 7 have the power, they just don't have enough experience to beat him.
It was Juubito's starting to regret what he was doing is what broke the sword more than anything. Madara skills is too high for them to deal with, he took on the 5 Kages, yes Naruto and Sasuke have more power than they do but they do not have more skills than the 5 kages combined.
I disagree. I think BM Naruto and Sasuke combo could have beat pre-Juubi Madara. The Mokuton does suppress Kurama but I don't think it could with Susanoo shielding kurama. I actually think they would have beat the $h:t out of Madara. Now Jubi Madara is a different story. JM would stomp them.
Now, the fact is that they are going to beat Madara, maybe Naruto solos. It will be interesting to find out how Kishi is going to make that happen with Madara so OP. Regardless how Kishi makes it happen. A lot of people are still probably going to be disappointed.
Actually the wood jutsu absorbs chakra as well, Hashirama said the wood dragon absorbs chakra
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and Madara used it on Naruto before when he first fought Naruto, Kakashi, Bee and Guy with Obito So yes even Susanoo would fall for the wood dragon. Madara can drop meteors, absorb chakra, use flower world that release pollen that can knock them out (Susanoo and BM doesn't block out air). They can't fight him close combat because he has better taijutsu, he mastered the sharingan far beyond anyone so not going to count visual genjutsu as a major factor.
Madara was able to read the 5 kages jutsus even when it seem like he was seeing it for the first time; knew what was bad and what he could take even as a edo and he wasn't close to being serious; called that fight child play... Naruto and Sasuke haven't even mastered their power ups enough to even use them as masterfully as Madara does with his. Rinnegan lets you use all elements like Obito was doing.
