Madara Uzumaki Uchiha
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Since when does convincing someone not to fight make you stronger then them- If anything the most you can say is K11 + Naruto and sasuke are able to beat a weak-willed obito only because Naruto has the "souls/chakra" of the tailed beast inside him.
I don't think you have a strong grasp of how Jink Obito can do. Obito is stronger than Pre-rikudo madara, much stronger.
Now, in response to the question- No, Sasuke and naruto may be able to defeat blind Madara- but 1 rinnegan sage mode madara?-probably not-However, going by feats, I think you have a point.
naruto and Sasuke could see obito, so Pre-Rikudo Madara isnot speed blitzing, Rinbo Hengoku isnot going to do much damage,-now a mokuton dragon may be able to take out naruto, sasuke however considering how well Sasuke's sword did against the shinju, mokuton probably wont do much.
Naruto and sasuke probably have atleast mountain + durability in kyubi susanoo- massively hypersonic reaction time, mountain level + DC. So, Considering Madara was toying around, he most likely has more to show, but unfortunatly we didnot anything.
Pre-rikudo Madara ( sage mode+ 1 rinnegan) has very few feats and compared to naruto + sasuke, he doesnot do well enough unless he seals the kybi. If we include the gedo mazou then madara aborbs kuruma and thats that.
Pre-Rikudo Madara has massivly hypersonic movement+ reactions ( not as high as obito)
-Fire justu that "naruto said was hot"
-Rinbo Hengoku
-Sealing
-Regen
-chakra absorbtion ( cant say he aborbs biju dama cause thats no limits fallacy)
With these abilties, he cannot defeat susanoo kyubi- however if he went all out he would probably win.
Now, rikudo madara? Is that a joke? We have only seen him in action for 1 chapter. If we give him his feats he has incredible reaction feats ( minato rasengan)-and physical streanght ( kicked minato through garas sand barrier- the sand barrier helped stop a meteor)
Truthfully, Rikudo Madara stomps no diff. once he gets feats, until then mid-high diff.
