How does Princess Hanabi compares to Neji.

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No she didn't.
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My answer is the same: This logic is as flawed as saying Twin Lion Fists is more complex than Rotation because Neji never showed it.

Not to mention Rotation was in the past taught only to the heir, which likely changed by the time of The Last when Hinata did learn it.

That said, it can also be said that Hinata didn't learn Rotation because she was busy learning Twin Lion Fists. The possibilities are endless if we are going to discuss why she didn't know Rotation during the war. But bottom line remains that Tenten calls 64 Palms a more worthy showing of Neji's strength than Rotation.
She said it because that was his strongest offensive technique. Rotation is an ultimate defense.

-Ur logic is flawed since the fact that Hinata had tlf means Neji could learn it as she did. 64 palms is harder for Hinata than TLF. Hinata in the War didn't have Rotation or even the ability to release Chakra cacoon making it harder than tlf and 64 palms.
 

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It's not what I asked for, I repeat did we ever seen Hinata trying to perform rotation and fail? I will concede if you can give me a scan otherwise you have no basis to support your statement.
Do i need to bring the scan of Hinata not having any counter to 3 Zetsu about to slash her through with swords? Or would u say something like "She was about to use Rotation' or had it but never had time to use it when she was on her ass?
 

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Do i need to bring the scan of Hinata not having any counter to 3 Zetsu about to slash with swords? Or would u say something like "She was about to use Rotation'?
Is that hard to read what I'm writing? Scan of Hinata trying to perform rotation and fail, I will concede after that :)
 

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Is that hard to read what I'm writing? Scan of Hinata trying to perform rotation and fail, I will concede after that :)
She didn't even try because she doesn't have it , nor can she release Chakra from her whole body to block attacks. Case closed.
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Right here.

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Thats not proof of anything for Hinata's jutsu I was hoping the databook scan confirming it's A rank in difficulty. By that stupid logic all jutsu undergo form change and are therefore A rank.:lmao:

Anyway databook scan for twin lion fists being A rank in form manipulation, I'll wait:coffee:
 

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She said it because that was his strongest offensive technique. Rotation is an ultimate defense.
Tenten's words are "That's not the end of it". What's "it"? She's referring to Neji's skill/genius. And then she goes on to say that 64 Palms is Neji's true showing of strength ei his skill/genius. It has nothing to do with the techniques being offensive or defensive.
-Ur logic is flawed since the fact that Hinata had tlf means Neji could learn it as she did.
Why's that? We've already seen Hinata's vision be superior to Neji's by feats, what's wrong with her skill in shape manipulation being superior?

64 palms is harder for Hinata than TLF.
Hinata in the War didn't have Rotation or even the ability to release Chakra cacoon making it harder than tlf and 64 palms
Or she simply has more practice/training with Twin Lion Fists than 64 Palms. Like I said, we can speculate all day about why or why not Hinata didn't have Rotation in the war. Yeah, maybe it's because she lacks skill like you say, or maybe it's because she was focused on learning other techniques like TLF, 64 Palms, and Air Palm, or maybe it's because it was still heir-exclusive at that time. It can't be said for sure. So I think relying on an argument like that is invalid.
 
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Hanabi never had real life fighting situation she didn't have that very important experience , that's why she got captured by TonerI puppet.

Same happened to Naruto in their first mission as ninja when he was so scared that he couldn't act and do something against those 2 fodder chunins from Kirigakure.
 

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She said it because that was his strongest offensive technique. Rotation is an ultimate defense.

-Ur logic is flawed since the fact that Hinata had tlf means Neji could learn it as she did. 64 palms is harder for Hinata than TLF. Hinata in the War didn't have Rotation or even the ability to release Chakra cacoon making it harder than tlf and 64 palms.
I'm not sure we can say 64 palms was harder than TLF when that's the only Hyuuga tech that has difficulty ascribed to it in the DB plus we don't know how long it took her to master TLF in the first place.

Other branch members didn't show Rotation.. so its either Neji is extremely proud and petty or there's a reason he doesn't share the secrets of the tech with his fellow branch members and possibly Hinata too since she was no longer heiress?
 

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I don't see Hinata failing to perform rotation on the picture? :yeah:

Concession accepted.
LMAO. This guy is a joke

OT: Hanabi was confirmed the strongest ever since she showed Rotation before a character that had 700 chapters of opportunity, and extraneous chances through The Last and Boruto: The Movie ( the latter in which she jovially sent her son to fight Otsutsuki gods ). :)
 
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Tenten's words are "That's not the end of it". What's "it"? She's referring to Neji's skill/genius. And then she goes on to say that 64 Palms is Neji's true showing of strength ei his skill/genius. It has nothing to do with the techniques being offensive or defensive.
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The "it' refers to Neji's show of skill/genius yes , but also offensive power. Rotation is a defense , 64 palms is an offense.


Or she simply has more practice/training with Twin Lion Fists than 64 Palms. Like I said, we can speculate all day about why or why not Hinata didn't have Rotation in the war. Yeah, maybe it's because she lacks skill like you say, or maybe it's because she was focused on learning other techniques like TLF, 64 Palms, and Air Palm. It can't be said for sure. So I think relying on an argument like that is invalid.
So ur literally going to argue that TLF is a more useful tech to have than Rotation and that Hinata didn't care for it pass the War and only focused on raw offense which is why she doesn't have it?.

She only mastered GF after gaining Rotation , so Hinata in the War had yet to master gf even tho she had TLF and 64 palms. Rotation and full body Chakra control=GF mastery.

I'm not sure we can say 64 palms was harder than TLF when that's the only Hyuuga tech that has difficulty ascribed to it in the DB plus we don't know how long it took her to master TLF in the first place.

Other branch members didn't show Rotation.. so its either Neji is extremely proud and petty or there's a reason he doesn't share the secrets of the tech with his fellow branch members and possibly Hinata too since she was no longer heiress?
This is due to 64 palms requiring Taijutsu skill in "movement" not Chakra control like TLF or Rotation.

-Because no other member apart from Neji and Hiashi had it which is why they didn't show it. Only the heir and leader gets Rotation.

I don't see Hinata failing to perform rotation on the picture? :yeah:

Concession accepted.
So Hinata could've defended herself but fell on her ass because she had the situation under full control right? LOL plz stop..
 
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Hanabi never had real life fighting situation she didn't have that very important experience , that's why she got captured by TonerI puppet.

Same happened to Naruto in their first mission as ninja when he was so scared that he couldn't act and do something against those 2 fodder chunins from Kirigakure.
But she had been training with the expert on Hyuuga techniques and taijutsu all her life. Naruto at that point had not only trained on his own but was even younger than this Hanabi. And she couldn't offer the least bit of resistance. Disappointing. Hopefully Himawari is developed properly and shows us prodigious stuff.
 

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I've taken a screenshot for future reference now we know if somebody doesn't attempt a jutsu and fail that means they co do it.:lmao: everybody can perform Rasen shuriken now.
:lmao: Saradabase will stay winning with this comedian making this many blunders. Thank you and Sarada with Rasengan solos. :win:

OT: Hanabi's effortless Rotation > Hinata's nonexistent one. :sdo: For that, I put her even above old man Hiashi who's on crutches now.
 

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All I know is that a GF master = emit chakra from his/her entire body

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Hinata is a GF master during the Boruto ERA

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This panel confirm that Hinata can perform rotation :sigar:
 

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The "it' refers to Neji's show of skill/genius yes , but also offensive power. Rotation is a defense , 64 palms is an offense.




So ur literally going to argue that TLF is a more useful tech to have than Rotation and that Hinata didn't care for it pass the War and only focused on raw offense which is why she doesn't have it?.

She only mastered GF after gaining Rotation , so Hinata in the War had yet to master gf even tho she had TLF and 64 palms. Rotation and full body Chakra control=GF mastery.
I don't get how you come to that conclusion, there's no distinction being made by Tenten between offense and defense. She is saying that Neji just showed a portion of his genius with Rotation, but that 64 Palms would be the TRUE showing of his genius.

Never said TLF is more useful, and Hinata choosing what she wants to learn before other techniques doesn't really matter.

Not really the case. You yourself told me Wall Palm is very complicated, and evidenced by only Hiashi and Hizashi knowing it, not even Neji, then this argument that full control of the Chakra Points is the be all end all in complexity in Gentle Fist style doesn't hold weight. Since Wall Palm only uses the hands like Twin Lion Fists yet it is so advanced not even Neji who knew Rotation could use it. Thus your argument that Rotation and Full Blow Body are the pinnacle of Gentle Fist in terms of complexity doesn't hold up.

Kaguya's Vacuum Palm is also more complex than Rotation, no? And it is also a Gentle Fist technique, which uses Shape Manipulation to change the form of the Chakra shot out of the Palm into fists, while Air Palm is just a burst of Chakra with no Shape Manipulation.

Thats not proof of anything for Hinata's jutsu I was hoping the databook scan confirming it's A rank in difficulty. By that stupid logic all jutsu undergo form change and are therefore A rank.:lmao:

Anyway databook scan for twin lion fists being A rank in form manipulation, I'll wait:coffee:
I concede. Can't deal with you anymore.
 
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