How does Madara having Rinbo Hengoku puts him above Nagato??

[AllseeingSharingan]

Saying nagato is better at rinnegan than madara is Just nonsense. it's like saying kakashi is better at using kamui than obito. This whole entire naruto story was based off of madara plan.

 

[Ovan]

I would like to see more myself.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

madara is still lacking behind nagato untill he amaze me by using soul removing and shape shifting

So the two meteors from space wasn't enough. Nagato almost died creating the chikibaku tensei.

 

[Dark Artist]

Nagato was Owned by 8 tails kyubi

while Madara with Only 1 rinnegan Owned the whole Bijuus with only 1 jutsu including the Complete Kyubi

Madara is the strongest and Best Rinnegan user

Nagato's rinnegan Belongs to Madara Duh !​

 

[genii96]

Are people forgetting that madara is in sage mode?,his powers would increase by a huge amount. Compare hashi's moukton in base to his sage mode budha,now compare a normal ST to a sage mode enhanced attack. Imagine the difference.

Also it should be noted that pain had the problem with the kyubi,nagato himself tossed kcm naruto aside with a simple basho tenin.

A sage mode enhanced madara would obviously have more power than nagato using the rinnegan,snd madara also has more knowledge.

 

[Huzaifa]

ever heard of typo error??? Numbnut

Ever heard of the edit button?
Lol had to say this.

 

[Champ]

Are people forgetting that madara is in sage mode?,his powers would increase by a huge amount. Compare hashi's moukton in base to his sage mode budha,now compare a normal ST to a sage mode enhanced attack. Imagine the difference.

Also it should be noted that pain had the problem with the kyubi,nagato himself tossed kcm naruto aside with a simple basho tenin.

A sage mode enhanced madara would obviously have more power than nagato using the rinnegan,snd madara also has more knowledge.

I agree, Geni

 

[Oksus]

Madara has perfected Rinnegan. We just haven't seen him use it to full potential yet.

 

[Lazerus Eks]

I'm still confused.. What is Rinbo Hengoku??

Have u read the latest manga chapter?

 

[VolatileSoul]

Is this a joke? Even before this, people thought Nagato was better than Madara with Rinnegan? He is a fake. How is he on Madara's level? No. Madara one shotted all nine Bijuu while Nagato couldn't even handle a weak version of Kurama.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Because Rinbō Hengoku is a one-shot technique that works on any spot Madara wishes to use it on and even a sensor such as Naruto didn't see it coming.​

Naruto wasn't using Sennin, and BM doesn't sense Chakura.​

 

[Dark Artist]

VolatileSoul + avalan

Owned this Wood rider and this pathetic Thread

+ REP

OT : Madara > Nagato


without Madara's Eyes Nagato will be a Fodder

Manga FACT

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[Amelius]

People seem to be getting off topic, as such I will contribute to all points I see, off topic and on topic.

1st (On-topic): I will assume that being the original developer on the Rinnegan, Madara would presumably have access to jutsu's that Nagato may have been unaware of. People need to remember that almost of the the Rinnegan abilities Nagato knew who taught to him by Obito, who learned them from Madara. What's that old say: "I taught you everything you know, but not everything I know."

Another possibility is that with access to Hashirama and Sage mode energy that Madara's Rinnegans "push ability" became more focused and with the ability to pin-point targets more flawlessly. There is really no way of knowing which two scenarios are correct, could even be both.

Now to discuss the off-topic debates I see going around;

There is absolutely no way to compare Madara and Nagato as far as who was more powerful and whom wielded the Rinnegan more proficiently and I will explain why,

Pain/Nagato: I would hope we could all agree that Nagato as pain was far from the true abilities of Nagato. First off, Nagato as Pain from the get go was a weaken status. Controlling 5 individual bodies, because you're incapable of moving on your own, while each performs different jutsu's is not an easy feat. This wasn't done because Nagato felt it would be more efficient, he really did not have a choice, and considering all this chakra was divided between the 5, its no wonder it was only a matter of time before he was beaten by Naruto. As for why he couldn't capture Kurama, it has already been proven that a bijuu in a human body is stronger than a Bijuu going on its own. Therefore, Kurama was already stronger than when Madara subdued him, and when he finally decided to capture him using the bolder jutsu thing, he was already running on fumes, given his facial expressions. In closing for Pain/Nagato, it was sent to capture Naruto, not kill him. Therefore it can be concluded that he didn't go into the fight with the mindset of going all out. He fought with a level of discretion.

Edo Nagato: As an Edo, with all the rinnegan in one body, Nagato was more than capable of dealing with Naruto and Killerbee with relative ease. We also know that Edo forms are far less powerful than their living counterparts, Madara being proof of this. So a less than 100% Nagato was too much for Naruto and Bee, while at the same time Nagato was unable to move on his own. So essentially, he was owning them while handicapped.

Nagato solo/living: We have no clue what a living, uncrippled Nagato is capable of.... That is just the truth.

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Madara during his own time: Pretty a no contest, Madara before his defeat by Hashirama has no way of dealing with a Rinnegan, imo

Madara after awakening the Rinnegan: Old age, surviving by being attached to the tree, not sure there is a contest.. not sure we should even count this one due to age. not a fair comparison

Edo Madara: Thiis Madara is far less powerful than when Madara is revived, however, this Madara is not completely Madara. This Madara has had his abilities almost doubled by fusing Hashirama's DNA into his own... So I dont see this being a fair comparison either given the outside interference. Might just be me.

Revived Madara: Far more powerful than Edo Madara as proven by the manga, but with the same interference of having Hashiramas DNA. Not only that but Revived Madara also stole Sage Mode from Hashirama as well, Which I'm sure increased his powers by 1/3 at least. So this one should not count either.

Revived Madara, without the stolen abilities: We have no idea what his form of Madara, but we can assume him to be at least 2 and 1/3 weaker than the Madara we see now.

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So no one side can say that either is stronger than the other, given the handicaps on both sides.
Just my thoughts. Sorry for any grammar errors, I did this while at work and switching between screen.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Some people just can't accept facts.... Even if madara shows more you'll claim it's plot anyway, so what's the point...? Madara summoned gedo from the moon; That's already greater mastery than nagato's shown.

 

[Amelius]

Some people just can't accept facts.... Even if madara shows more you'll claim it's plot anyway, so what's the point...? Madara summoned gedo from the moon; That's already greater mastery than nagato's shown.

Summoning in itself is time/space ninjutstu, so where the Gedo came from doesn't matter, it could have been Mars and it wouldn't have mattered. Distance doesn't play any factor into summoning. So by that logic, Obito, Nagato and Madara all have shown to summon the Gedo. The rinnegan merely gives you access to summon it, its serves as the summoning contract.

 

[genii96]

Some people just can't accept facts.... Even if madara shows more you'll claim it's plot anyway, so what's the point...? Madara summoned gedo from the moon; That's already greater mastery than nagato's shown.

summoning is a time/space ninjutsu. Distance dosent matter. Gedo could have been on pluto and it would still be summoned.

 

[aaniq]

With Hashi's Sage Chakra (along with Senju chakra), he himself being one of the most powerful uchihas, Kishi can make him do plot no jutsu, and it might look reasonable, that means he can do a lot more than a sole uchiha or a sole Senju/Uzumaki with Rinnegan could do. Also he has the control of huge life force of Gedou Mazou. In the next episode we might see Madara getting his left rinnegan (considering how the series is moving). As of now, saying that he is OP or something like that would be a underestimating him a lot. Luck being on his side this whole time, he has made himself so much strong, that we are unable to comprehend.***Nagato couldn't do that jutsu maybe because he was not an uchiha or that he was not having sennin chakra, also he was not taking the benefit of Gedou Mazou's life force.Nagato may have practiced the Rinnegan jutsus well, but since Madara had access to Uchiha Stone Tablet, obviously it is possible for him to perform some secret techniques which was only known to Sage of Six Paths (known to have used Rinnegan to its full extent).***

 

[ChrisUzumaki]

Having the sage mode also gives madara a huge chakra boost. I feel as madara has better mastery thought. What confuses me and I hope someone will explain, when did madara get to train with his reningan to know what its fully capable of?

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Well the point is that madara used a technique that nagato had never used. Suggests that madara has more rinnegan techniques than nagato. I know madara hasn't shown us much from his rinnegan but as the original owner surely he can use it better than nagato

Utterly terrible example. Madara hasnt used any of pains powers.

ALso, Izuna is the original owner of the rinnegan.

 

[Draphsin]

I still can't fathom that idea

Until Madara shows us more, I'd say Nagato's rennigan mastery>>Madara's

Madara is the best controller of the gedo mazou & has shown the best binding power while using it. Madara is the best outer path user we have ever seen & is miles above nagato's level.