How does Hashirama counter Tsukuyomi?

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:lol i mean wow

Hashirama cannot break Tsukuyomi its as simple as that :lol But Itachi cannot catch him with with as his speed and jutsu's are tiers above Itachi


He ain't tanking Tsukuyomi.No one without uchiha blood and shringan is :lol

You have no proof. It's a fact that Hashirama has better regenerative abilities then Tsunade, who was able to heal Kakashi from the effects of Tsukiyomi. It's a fact that Hashirama broke out of Edo Tensei through sheer will power. Hashirama is leagues above Itachi, put two and two together Stan.

 

[BLAZE]

considering the powerlvl of this war, being vulnerable for a sec is a death sentence, izuna confirms that. if hashi was seriously worried about genjutsu in the first scan above, he would not had looked at hashi EMS.

He has partners that can counter Sharingan genjutsu
Here its not the case

hashi knows madara likes to dance, thirst in combat more than use gen, itachi is the literal polar opposite of what hashi has dealt with his entire life. i honestly can't see hashi without intel stomping itachi unless he went all out asap, which i also highly doubt he will.

Itachi never goes out with Tsukuyomi straight in battle so by your logic he will be dead before he even brings MS out

@Bold we all know why :lol

 

[Berkenstiel]

Sig worthy because I called him by his username?

Tsunade... just like Jiraiya will beat Itachi.

If hes use totsuka and etc.. then Tsunade uses katsuyu.. genjutsu is completely irrelevant then.

This is who your co-signing btw.

 

[Remedy]

I can't believe this discussion is this long.

That statement Itachi made was in early pt 1, the entire landscape of the manga hadn't been panned out at that time. There are alot of things said in pt 1 that was contradicted in pt 2. Statements are made all the time by characters, Kabuto calling Hashirama the strongest ninja, period. The fact the BZ believed that Tysukiyomi could be broken by a simple 3t sharingan is all you need to know.

 

[LoZelda101]

He has partners that can counter Sharingan genjutsu
Here its not the case

Itachi never goes out with Tsukuyomi straight in battle so by your logic he will be dead before he even brings MS out

@Bold we all know why :lol

because we haven't witness killing intent itachi. we have of hashirama thou :lol

 

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You have no proof.

Then go read previous 2 pages

It's a fact that Hashirama has better regenerative abilities then Tsunade, who was able to heal Kakashi from the effects of Tsukiyomi.

Guys healing someone means abilty to tank it :lol

It's a fact that Hashirama broke out of Edo Tensei through sheer will power.

ET equals Tsukuyomi :lol

Hashirama is leagues above Itachi, put two and two together Stan.

Listen hashirama wood rider i nvr said Itachi wins,I said it would be stomp in hashi favour but i am not butchering manga like you

 

[Claymantan]

He can with Kai release I'll explain why.

Hashirama was immune to the effects of mind control which is what genjutsu basically is, controlling the neurons in someone's brain. Other techniques that influence a person's will have the same weaknesses as genjutsu.

i.e : Kurama protected Naruto from being controlled by Pain's rod same way he protects him from genjutsu, Sasuke broke Danzo's seal by releasing chakra same way he broke Tsukuyomi

Manga has shown that any technique that influences a person's ability to control themselves like genjutsu, ET, Pain's rods, and Danzo's seal, can be broken with the chakra release method, logically the same applies to Tsukuyomi. In the end it's still a genjutsu and therefore has the same weaknesses.

Tsukuyomi can be broken but requires a very high level of chakra to do so, as we know Hashirama's chakra is miles above hebi Sasuke so logically the genjutsu will not work on him. Itachi was limited by his perspective, he never faced anyone near Hashi's level so to him Tsukuyomi seemed unbreakable as much as Nagato seemed unbeatable.

No matter how high your chakra reserves are, you can't duplicate a KKG or dojutsu. It's a genetic limitation.

The fact that Itachi specifies that Tsukuyomi can only be undone by a KKG Sharingan implies that it requires those genetic traits to undo, the same way it does to do. (I.e. you could be a master of genjutsu with gargantuan chakra reserves, but never be able to cast Tsukuyomi without the genetic trait).

This is why I think the high chakra reserve speculation doesn't hold weight. It's not just a genjutsu - it's a high-level, KKG-specific genjutsu.

 

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So have we shut the Itachi Stans up using old Manga scans to glorify a tired character not even in top 10 anymore? lmao

 

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because we haven't witness killing intent itachi. we have of hashirama :lol

Does it matter : Nope

IR battle hasirama wins

Non IR battle: Hashi makes woood forest and vanishes in it leaving Itachi to fend of Multiple clones deadly pollen Wood golems,Wood Human,Wood dragon etc etc etc the list goes on

 

[Genyūmaru1]

I can't believe this discussion is this long.

That statement Itachi made was in early pt 1, the entire landscape of the manga hadn't been panned out at that time. There are alot of things said in pt 1 that was contradicted in pt 2. Statements are made all the time by characters, Kabuto calling Hashirama the strongest ninja, period. The fact the BZ believed that Tysukiyomi could be broken by a simple 3t sharingan is all you need to know.

That's because Itachi even said this in Pt.1. If anything Tsukuyomi has kept its consistency. Lmao if you're going to spout bullshit, atleast let it be credible bullshit.

 

[Genyūmaru1]

So have we shut the Itachi Stans up using old Manga scans to glorify a tired character not even in top 10 anymore? lmao

More like you Hashirama fapboys have been shut up. You're overdosing on bullshit claims, and speculation that isn't even supported by the manga. Morons clouded by moronic view points.

 

[LoZelda101]

Does it matter : Nope

IR battle hasirama wins

Non IR battle: Hashi makes woood forest and vanishes in it leaving Itachi to fend of Multiple clones deadly pollen Wood golems,Wood Human,Wood dragon etc etc etc the list goes on

But that's the best part. it does matter, the fact that non killing intent itachi was able to put folks in gen before realizing it left them vulnerable long enough for itachi to of long killed them. sensory skills isn't going to work on itachi's gen. :lol

sensory skills won't see his gen coming. Ao confirmed

 

[Nardo]

We haven't even seen much of Tsukuyomi, I wish we could've had seen it done against a opponent on Hashirama's level so this thread wouldn't have to been made.

 

[Berkenstiel]

So have we shut the Itachi Stans up using old Manga scans to glorify a tired character not even in top 10 anymore? lmao

Listen Hashi fap. Hashirama will never have a counter to tsukuyomi other than closing his eyes and running away no matter how you feel .

TY & Itachi solos

OT : funny sig

 

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Even if Hashirama does decide to close his eyes, won't that just slow him down and give Itachi the advantage?

He outran Eso susanoo crossing mountains to lure madara away from village [

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[Trúth]

I can't believe this discussion is this long.

That statement Itachi made was in early pt 1, the entire landscape of the manga hadn't been panned out at that time. There are alot of things said in pt 1 that was contradicted in pt 2. Statements are made all the time by characters, Kabuto calling Hashirama the strongest ninja, period. The fact the BZ believed that Tysukiyomi could be broken by a simple 3t sharingan is all you need to know.

Do you not see how stupid this post is?

 

[SenseiSama]

No matter how high your chakra reserves are, you can't duplicate a KKG or dojutsu. It's a genetic limitation.

The fact that Itachi specifies that Tsukuyomi can only be undone by a KKG Sharingan implies that it requires those genetic traits to undo, the same way it does to do. (I.e. you could be a master of genjutsu with gargantuan chakra reserves, but never be able to cast Tsukuyomi without the genetic trait).

This is why I think the high chakra reserve speculation doesn't hold weight. It's not just a genjutsu - it's a high-level, KKG-specific genjutsu.

Again, Itachi was limited to his perspective, by genetic trait he meant someone with the same eye power as him, he kept saying "face me when you have the same eyes" because he knew Sasuke had the genes for MS, but that idea was thrown out of the window when Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi with 3T Sharingan.

If we went by Itachi's logic then Tsukuyomi would work on Kaguya and JuubiJins, see how ridiculous that sounds ? Genjutsu isn't limited to genetics, anyone with the power to break high level mind control can break Tsukuyomi because it involves breaking someone's control over your nervous system, and Jiraiya already made it clear chakra release is the method to do so.

Hashi's chakra is the reason he could break free of Edo and Itachi couldn't, it should be clear that gaining a hold over his mind is impossible.

 

[Simbv]

Listen Hashi fap. Hashirama will never have a counter to tsukuyomi other than closing his eyes and running away no matter how you feel .

TY & Itachi solos

OT : funny sig

Sage Mode=Counter to Tsukuyomi.

 

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More like you Hashirama fapboys have been shut up. You're overdosing on bullshit claims, and speculation that isn't even supported by the manga. Morons clouded by moronic view points.

The Butt Hurt.

Listen Hashi fap. Hashirama will never have a counter to tsukuyomi other than closing his eyes and running away no matter how you feel .

TY & Itachi solos

OT : funny sig

Is Real.

 

[Remedy]

Do you not see how stupid post is?

......? Yep