People need to stop judging strength and greatness and wins by number of jutsus. Fact is and it is written in all of the naruto world and agreed on by all countries and kages still cannot deny it, hashi was the gr8est kage ever, only stronger was sage, stop doing this crap. BTW, i personally think that itachi and minato would pawn muu, it would be a really good fight, heavy difficulty on both sides, not saying there is no chance muu can win, but i believe that minato and itachi have a better chance coming out winning, and of course current naruto would own muu mid difficulty. People need to stop just checking out who has the most justsus and what justsus they are, having alot of good justsus does not mean they will or can be used at maximum proficiency against any opponent. Its about skill, experience and intelligence also, also about chakra base, speed base and alot of other factors. Yall cant just go around saying muu is invisible so people cant beat him, wtf, stop making people hate this site. Muu is a bad azz, no doubt, but he can and will be beaten by a few ninjas still, hashirama doesnt even belong in that list, cause he wouldn't beat him, he'd own his azz. This thread is almost as ridiculous as the sasuke gr8er than hashi thread, omg, that one is the worst spam of all naruto history, good lord