How does Hashirama beat Muu?

[Meowazziel]

@ dantee

Muu can fly but hashirama can sorta fly as well. He just needs to ride tree's and letting them grow towards muu. If the tree's take any damage he can just grow new ones.
Yamato uses sort of pollen or seeds as well, to track people and zetsu uses spores, among fusion with plants/earth.
Wood element seems to give a sorta unique tracking ability. Although its a bit speculation, its not complete speculation that hashirama had sensing skills. Their are examples given. People that use his cells, use sensor and tracking skills with wood element.

 

[iCuRiddY]

I could care less about my rep since I only use this site to read manga... I only stated it because I've seen how much of a Sasuke fan boy you are. The fact that you'd go out of your way to defend a fictional character like that makes me see you as a complete loser.

Go ahead and neg rep me all u want I don't care about that, but take my advice. Go get a life, because yours seems pathetic.

 

[Exaar]

read my post a few post above you.

Your post has already been answered by dantee, even so, Nothing you said changes much.

Muu being a sensor + Dust release takes care of his pollen, Also when onoki destroyed the flower, the Pollens effects seemed to of vanished.
You Guessing Hashirama is a sesnor Brings nothing to the table, even if he was, he still couldn't detect muu.

 

[Meowazziel]

Isnt it bannable or something to neg rep people for no valid reason?
Or at least against the rules?

 

[Dantee]

@ dantee

Muu can fly but hashirama can sorta fly as well. He just needs to ride tree's and letting them grow towards muu. If the tree's take any damage he can just grow new ones.
Yamato uses sort of pollen or seeds as well, to track people and zetsu uses spores, among fusion with plants/earth.
Wood element seems to give a sorta unique tracking ability. Although its a bit speculation, its not complete speculation that hashirama had sensing skills. Their are examples given. People that use his cells, use sensor and tracking skills with wood element.

Hashirama being able to ride on tress hardly makes a difference against someone who can fly on all angles. His manueverability would be much greater than Hashiramas in the air. Jinton is able to take out heaps of areas so really growing tress in order to protect himself seems futile. The tracking seeds must be planted on Muu and I don't see that happening to someone who is on guard in battle.

 

[Meowazziel]

Your post has already been answered by dantee, even so, Nothing you said changes much.

Muu being a sensor + Dust release takes care of his pollen, Also when onoki destroyed the flower, the Pollens effects seemed to of vanished.
You Guessing Hashirama is a sesnor Brings nothing to the table, even if he was, he still couldn't detect muu.

sand could detect muu, why pollen cant?

btw can sharingan detect muu?

 

[JakeLife510]

This is a severe underrating of Hashirama and a obvious attempt at hottest threads. What's the point anyway if your thread is pointless ?

OT: Heard he could make a forest in an instant with paralzying pollen which puts Muu out of the battle. How does Jinton counter that eh ?

Negative Knight, I know your into abilities of characters and your doubting Muu who has amazing techs that are for more better and tactical then wood release.
He basically has a kamehameha attack which disinegrates on contact.
Plus he can fly and is invisible.
Don't get me wrong Hashi is a powerhouse but against Muu his techs outdue Hashi.

People keep saying Pollen Tree with Poisen Air will render Muu useless gameover BUT Muu has Air afinity and can easily blow the poisen away. Plus is a master of Earth release which he can utilize to counter his Wood from the earth

 

[Exaar]

Care to show the scan of Gaara's sand doing so?, I cba to find it xd.

Also I doubt the sharingan can, but it would depend on the user, someone like madara maybe, since he has extremely good perception even being able to tell the difference between Shadow/wood clones and the original

 

[JakeLife510]

sand could detect muu, why pollen cant?

btw can sharingan detect muu?

Not when he goes in invisible which erases his chakra presence where no sensor can find him.
Only physical sensing abilities like sensor sand or kiba and akamaru or kakashi dogs

 

[Meowazziel]

Not when he goes in invisible which erases his chakra presence where no sensor can find him.
Only physical sensing abilities like sensor sand or kiba and akamaru or kakashi dogs

pollen are physical, sand is as well.
Difference?

 

[Midday]

I love how nobody can give a proper answer but wont deny Hashirama can't beat Mu with his current feats. They're just going to talk about hype or they would say Madara beat Mu and Onoki but wont consider that they improved over the years.

 

[Strict]

Oonokis strongest technique he backed up with Tsunades help, affected a small part of the tree world Madara created, a technique Hashirama is according to Tsunade also able to use.

Dantee is always praised for the quality of his posts. Laughable. Hashirama will simply outnumber him with a bunch of Mokuton Bunshins which can use his powers, too. Muu is, comparing to Hashirama, nothing. All 5 Kages together were standing in no comparison to Hashirama.

 

[Meowazziel]

Sand can detect muu, so pollen should be able to as well. They dont even need to be inhaled.
You just need to spread them through the area, so that the opponent is in the mist of pollen.
Once wood material is applied, like zetsu spores, pollen, seeds etc, it becomes even more easier to keep track of the target.

Outlasting muu is possible. Jinton takes quite a lot of chakra. Without it, muu isnt much.
Bunshins are possible for defence.
Fusing with plant and earth material.

Flying on tree's is possible, even though it doesnt give as much manouvrability as real flight.

The answers exist on how hashi (even with how little we know of him) can defeat muu.

 

[JakeLife510]

pollen are physical, sand is as well.
Difference?

But Muu can blow away Pollen with Wind release, if not burn the Flower Tree with fire release

 

[JakeLife510]

pollen are physical, sand is as well.
Difference?

But Muu can blow away Pollen with Wind release, if not burn the Flower Tree with fire release

 

[Meowazziel]

But Muu can blow away Pollen with Wind release, if not burn the Flower Tree with fire release

new grown tree's say hello .

 

[OnPoint]

It's funny because Muu can't spam Jinton (whereas Mokuton is spammable) and he can't tell the difference between the real Hashirama and a Mokuton Kage Bunshin.

 

[Midday]

Sand can detect muu, so pollen should be able to as well. They dont even need to be inhaled.
You just need to spread them through the area, so that the opponent is in the mist of pollen.
Once wood material is applied, like zetsu spores, pollen, seeds etc, it becomes even more easier to keep track of the target.

Outlasting muu is possible. Jinton takes quite a lot of chakra. Without it, muu isnt much.
Bunshins are possible for defence.
Fusing with plant and earth material.

Flying on tree's is possible, even though it doesnt give as much manouvrability as real flight.

The answers exist on how hashi (even with how little we know of him) can defeat muu.

No Hashirama can't detect with pollen just because Gaara could with sand. Hashirama doesn't control pollen like Gaara with sand so he can't real around to find him.

Hashirama can probably outlast Mu but that's not what will determine the fight since Mu wont be randomly shooting his jinton also his stamina is fairly good and spamed it to an extent with his fight with Onoki, who also has a decent amount of stamina and no problem spamming jinton even though he's ancient. In short jinton doesn't consume a huge amount of chakra.

Flying on tree's? Okay but Mu can actually fly.

 

[JakeLife510]

It's funny because Muu can't spam Jinton (whereas Mokuton is spammable) and he can't tell the difference between the real Hashirama and a Mokuton Kage Bunshin.

A very Old Oonoki was able to go toe to toe jinton spam with Edo Muu who has unlimited chakra and stamina. Imagine a prime Oonoki using his dust tech.

Muu being one of the best Sensors next to Naruto could tell the difference between Wood clones and the real hashi

 

[blackbird31468]

You obviously don't read the manga closely enough. Kabuto pretty much sets them on auto pilot but it doesn't give them access to their intellect. They are pretty much responding on instinct but really this conversation is going nowhere so if you don't have anything smart to say sit down.

Muu could act on his own, he died because he made the wrong decision.

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