How does ALM counter BLM??

[InfiniteMugen]

Here is another analogy. If you are at a cancer rally (for donations) and someone stands up and says all diseases deserve donations. It is not wrong , but we are currently focusing on cancer.

Another analogy. You are at a relative's funeral. A person from a different funeral comes and asks you, why are you not mourning for his relative's death. Both deaths are equally sad but you are already dealing with one.

I totally get that part, so maybe my view of alm is different then what it actually is then? Imo alm would be people together protesting injustice, if that happens to be injustice against blacks then all races should stand with black people in protest, this is how I interpret alm should be, so I might just be completely wrong here

 

[Fearmonger]

And this is the kind of statement that gets black people heated. We say BLM then you throw up these statistics and this is what? Supposed to justify the fact that cops are still killing black folks at an alarming rate innocent or no?

These statistics don't make it okay. It doesn't put cops in the right or somehow make it understandable that black men and women are being mistreated (i.e. Shot dead) buy authorities. Due process is the law not a liscense to kill indecriminently because the statistics say blacks commit more crimes.

It's exactly the same as condemning all Muslims for what the Muslim terrorists do....the EXACT same thing!

No. Yours is the kind of statement that make educated black people such as myself very disappointed in what the media is doing to our community. Use your head or lose it.

If Black commit up to 50% of homicides besides being only around 13% of the population, they are contributing largely disproportionately to crime America. Now if you think about that, wouldn't that mean that most of the time when a cop arrests or as you say "mistreats" a black man or woman, that they were actually doing something to warrant said arrest or killing? Cops are not killing indiscriminately at all, in fact statistics show that 2x as many whites got shot dead in 2015 than blacks. You won't see that in the media, will you?

Muslims are a completely different case. You brought them up, so I am assuming you are a Muslim yourself. Understand that you and other American Muslims have been raised in a westernized society with American values and thus subscribe to a watered down non-literal interpretation of your faith. However, there are those out there, like most of the people living under Sharia Law in the middle east, that take Muhammad and the laws and teachings of the Quran very seriously. They believe in killing/taxing those who aren't Muslim, believe in killing those who speak badly about their prophet Muhammad and also support honor killings. Being made up of multiple countries of thousands and millions of people, they are not a small minority at all. You are, in fact, the minority.

 

[Phact]

No. Yours is the kind of statement that make educated black people such as myself very disappointed in what the media is doing to our community. Use your head or lose it.

If Black commit up to 50% of homicides besides being only around 13% of the population, they are contributing largely disproportionately to crime America. Now if you think about that, wouldn't that mean that most of the time when a cop arrests or as you say "mistreats" a black man or woman, that they were actually doing something to warrant said arrest or killing? Cops are not killing indiscriminately at all, in fact statistics show that 2x as many whites got shot dead in 2015 than blacks. You won't see that in the media, will you?

Muslims are a completely different case. You brought them up, so I am assuming you are a Muslim yourself. Understand that you and other American Muslims have been raised in a westernized society with American values and thus subscribe to a watered down non-literal interpretation of your faith. However, there are those out there, like most of the people living under Sharia Law in the middle east, that take Muhammad and the laws and teachings of the Quran very seriously. They believe in killing/taxing those who aren't Muslim, believe in killing those who speak badly about their prophet Muhammad and also support honor killings. Being made up of multiple countries of thousands and millions of people, they are not a small minority at all. You are, in fact, the minority.

If black people are commiting 50% of homicides that means they are in poverty and America is not doing its job right. When the Irish were in poverty they also had an insane amount of crimes. The british in the middle ages were extremely dirty and also committed an enormous amount of crimes because of their poverty. An average American family has atleast 110,000$ to their name. An average black person has an average of 11,000$ to their name. So you can see that black people on average are not doing as well because of the poverty they are put in. If you go to the schools in the hood you will see broken walls, ceilings and floors. This encourages the youth to think that education is a waste of time.

I just saw the last part of your post...
Islam is dangerous? Yet the most people dying today are Muslims. You talk about Islam like you studied and graduated from an Islamic University. The way you talk about Islam reminds of that idiot Sam Harris.

 

[Omega]

All I have to say is that I didn't hear ALM or #alljobsmatter countering the recent Blue lives matter movement. Hmmm if they are ok with blue lives matter but dislike black lives matter then I wonder what could be the difference...I'm certain it has nothing to do with the word black.....yep...that has nothing to do with it.

 

[demon of the leaf]

If black people are commiting 50% of homicides that means they are in poverty and America is not doing its job right. When the Irish were in poverty they also had an insane amount of crimes. The british in the middle ages were extremely dirty and also committed an enormous amount of crimes because of their poverty. An average American family has atleast 110,000$ to their name. An average black person has an average of 11,000$ to their name. So you can see that black people on average are not doing as well because of the poverty they are put in. If you go to the schools in the hood you will see broken walls, ceilings and floors. This encourages the youth to think that education is a waste of time.

I just saw the last part of your post...
Islam is dangerous? Yet the most people dying today are Muslims. You talk about Islam like you studied and graduated from an Islamic University. The you talk about Islam reminds of that idiot Sam Harris.

Yes indeed poverty in poor neiborehoods which are largely black which poorer places tend to have more patrols by police for gangs that are out to bring younger people which is how the mobs were so successful at their time in the 40s younger people are more easy to convince right now we are still having a recession which means much of any support these poorer areas will have minimal effectiveness in rectifying i will post more later got work

 

[V h o]

If black people are commiting 50% of homicides that means they are in poverty and America is not doing its job right. When the Irish were in poverty they also had an insane amount of crimes. The british in the middle ages were extremely dirty and also committed an enormous amount of crimes because of their poverty. An average American family has atleast 110,000$ to their name. An average black person has an average of 11,000$ to their name. So you can see that black people on average are not doing as well because of the poverty they are put in. If you go to the schools in the hood you will see broken walls, ceilings and floors. This encourages the youth to think that education is a waste of time.

I just saw the last part of your post...
Islam is dangerous? Yet the most people dying today are Muslims. You talk about Islam like you studied and graduated from an Islamic University. The way you talk about Islam reminds of that idiot Sam Harris.

First bold is the tip of the iceberg of issues in America that snowballs into many other issues.
Second bold: Where did you find this at? Seems interesting.

 

[Phact]

First bold is the tip of the iceberg of issues in America that snowballs into many other issues.
Second bold: Where did you find this at? Seems interesting.

I found it off a reliable youtube video. (They are official, they get their info from the state department)
I forgot which video though. But i remember the numbers clearly because of the 100,000$ gap.

 

[Luther]

About your last sentence, yes Whites make up 70% of the country.
Blacks make up 13% but still commit 50% of homicides.
They're disproportionately large represented on every crime statistic while they only make 13%.
But statistics are racist, right?

OT: Really funny that you mention the little girl story, while I agree with you there, if a thug gets killed the media report it non-stop.
Every time a Black person got shot the media tells you "racist cop" or something like that.

They almost never report Black on White crime.
Not even the real issue, Black on Black crime. You guys kill each other, but that's ok because it's not a race crime, right?

And most of you fall for this, you don't even notice in what position you put yourself with every other **impout.

What about white on white crime? According to the FBI statistics in 2013 83 percents of whites were killed by other whites, but you would never mention that because it doesn't fit into the narrative right? Blacks and whites smoke and use marijuana at the same rate but blacks are several times more likely to be arrested for it. Blacks are more likely to be charged as adults for the same crime as their white counterparts. Everytime there is a police shooting the right wing and conservative media rushes to paint the cop as a hero and the victim as a villain often sighting trivial criminal past records indirectly insinuating that, his past in some ways negates the police use of force. But facts have a liberal bias right?

It does counter it and this analogy demonstrates why:


"My personal interpretation of Black Lives Matter vs. All Lives Matter. Bob is sitting at the dinner table. Everyone else gets a plate of food except Bob. Bob says 'Bob Deserves Food.' Everyone at the table responds with 'Everyone Deserves Food' and continues eating. All though Everyone Deserves Food is a true statement, it does nothing to actually rectify the fact that BOB HAS NO FOOD!!"



Black on black crime isn't brought up in this context because those black people usually end up in jail as a result, not with paid leave or with millions of dollars in donations and offers for book deals.

If one is raising awareness for Alzheimer and raising a fund for its research does that mean people do not care about diseases such as AIDS and malaria? No.

 

[Fountain]

I mean no sh** all lives matter. thats common sense.

BUT

it's not every ethnicity getting shot multiple times through the chest while completely restrained is it??

I had no idea all lives matter was a movement, i thought it was common sense that all lives should matter not just blacks.

And for you misinformation, yes it is every ethnicity, it doesn't matter what race you are, you're still gonna get shot in the chest multiple times.

it's not every ethnicity getting shot and killed for reaching for his ID LIKE THE OFFICIAL ASKED in front of his 4 year old daughter now is it??

Obviously not everyone is gonna die the same way.

But when the prey retaliates against the predator, now it's all lives matter??

Can you explain this to me? Are you referring to the guy who shot the cops or something?

When innocent cops get killed from generalization of a crooked one, america goes rampant

That's how it is sadly, i guess being a cop automatically makes their lives worth more than anyone else's, since they're obviously heroes *sarcasm*

When a innocent black gets killed from generalization of a thug, america is silent & continue like it's no big deal.

Are you trippin? when a black dies it's all over the news. It's when someone else dies that you barely even hear about it. That's why you think it's just blacks.

Funny Americas founding fathers once said all men are equal yet had slaves they saw as beneath them.

Nevermind, here we go again with the slaves bs and jesus Christ and the dinosaurs and aliens that came to earth 3000 years ago... I should've known, this is just another delusional BLM supporter.

uttahere:

 

[Phact]

What about white on white crime? According to the FBI statistics in 2013 83 percents of whites were killed by other whites, but you would never mention that because it doesn't fit into the narrative right? Blacks and whites smoke and use marijuana at the same rate but blacks are several times more likely to be arrested for it. Blacks are more likely to be charged as adults for the same crime as their white counterparts. Everytime there is a police shooting the right wing and conservative media rushes to paint the cop as a hero and the victim as a villain often sighting trivial criminal past records indirectly insinuating that, his past in some ways negates the police use of force. But facts have a liberal bias right?


If one is raising awareness for Alzheimer and raising a fund for its research does that mean people do not care about diseases such as AIDS and malaria? No.

Next time say black teens are more likely to get charged as adutls for committing the same crime as there white counterparts

This would help people outside the U.S understand better.

 

[V h o]

I found it off a reliable youtube video. (They are official, they get their info from the state department)
I forgot which video though. But i remember the numbers clearly because of the 100,000$ gap.

Seems odd, would figure typical Americans to be struggling, but 100k a year is like 4x more than minimum wage....(but who works minimum wage:lol)

 

[Phact]

Seems odd, would figure typical Americans to be struggling, but 100k a year is like 4x more than minimum wage....(but who works minimum wage:lol)

That's not what they get per year but what they inherit from their parents.

 

[V h o]

That's not what they get per year but what they inherit from their parents.

Inheritance!!!? Who exactly are these typical Americans?

 

[Phact]

Inheritance!!!? Who exactly are these typical Americans?

I am not sure. It just said average American inheritance.

 

[slimreaper]

BLM isn't racist tho

Yes it is. It takes every example of blacks being killed and makes it a big deal justified or not.


The majority of the killings are justified, and if they aren't the cops have been charged.


It's just a divisive tool to remove responsibility from blacks poor behavior around cops to the cops.

 

[Omega]

hmmm my post has yet to be quoted.....I feel disappointed.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yes it is. It takes every example of blacks being killed and makes it a big deal justified or not.


The majority of the killings are justified, and if they aren't the cops have been charged.


It's just a divisive tool to remove responsibility from blacks poor behavior around cops to the cops.

You don't have permission to speak to me.

 

[Fountain]

You don't have permission to speak to me.

You have permission to kiss my ass.

 

[slimreaper]

All I have to say is that I didn't hear ALM or #alljobsmatter countering the recent Blue lives matter movement. Hmmm if they are ok with blue lives matter but dislike black lives matter then I wonder what could be the difference...I'm certain it has nothing to do with the word black.....yep...that has nothing to do with it.

It actually has everything to do with the inability of blacks to be objective or use context.

 

[Omega]

It actually has everything to do with the inability of blacks to be objective or use context.

Generalization much? Yeah all cops are bigots....#sarcasm...its also fair to say cops do the same thing when they defend their actions. There are some situations where I don't think it's a strong case to cause uproar but sometimes cops are actually wrong and they have the inability to make fair objective decisions in key moments. And if ppl stop trying to be blind they would know minorities get the short end of the stick. So again my point still stands that all lives matter should counter blue lives matter just the same....but they don't......black lives matter is actually saying all lives matter as well but there is supposed to be an implied "too" at the end. Saying all lives matter or even blue lives matter is like saying the sky is blue and grass is green. We know this already. Lol, but if ppl cared so much about all lives why is it that it only comes up as a retort to black lives. Why wouldn't it just be a thing that sprouted on its own. At its core it is a snarky remark meant to distract from the touchy issue of racism in the police force. Ex

Example
"We must preserve the rainforest"

"Well actually all forests should be preserved"

"That's true but the rainforest is the habitat of many exotic species that might go extinct if we don't-"

"Are you saying that rain forests are more important than other forests?"

"No I think we should keep the world green and clean"

"Well actually all planets matter, not just earth...."