How does ALM counter BLM??

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I mean no sh** all lives matter. thats common sense.

BUT

it's not every ethnicity getting shot multiple times through the chest while completely restrained is it??

it's not every ethnicity getting shot and killed for reaching for his ID LIKE THE OFFICIAL ASKED in front of his 4 year old daughter now is it??

But when the prey retaliates against the predator, now it's all lives matter??

When innocent cops get killed from generalization of a crooked one, america goes rampant

When a innocent black gets killed from generalization of a thug, america is silent & continue like it's no big deal.

Funny Americas founding fathers once said all men are equal yet had slaves they saw as beneath them.


inb4 someone post more whites get killed as if they dont make up 70% of the country.
 

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Only in America Folks...

[video=youtube;IhnUgAaea4M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M[/video]
 

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For first time I read the title it sound like a comparison of car models/system. No lie XD
 

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The only thing I can say is an eye for an eye makes the world blind. Alm would just show that blm doesn't just care about black lives but lives in general. I get what they're doing. I just think the message would be more effective. Continuing to fight racism with another form of racism is never gonna work(btw I'm not white nor black so I can kinda only speak from the outside in)
 

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America is full of racist do you really think they give a shit about black folks?

Its murica
 

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Dumb question.

BLM and ALM are BOTH correct. A distinction was made just to start flame wars.

If ALL lives matter, then Black Lives matter.

I know it sounds obvious and cheesy. But it really just comes down to people understanding individuality, instead of generalization.
 

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ALM supporters are just butthurt racists who want to misdirect the attention of the BLM movement
 

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The only thing I can say is an eye for an eye makes the world blind. Alm would just show that blm doesn't just care about black lives but lives in general. I get what they're doing. I just think the message would be more effective. Continuing to fight racism with another form of racism is never gonna work(btw I'm not white nor black so I can kinda only speak from the outside in)

BLM isn't racist tho
 

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BLM isn't racist tho

I personally know it's not, it's people tired of being oppressed and singled out and killed for no other reason then ridiculous racist stereo types. But not everybody sees it like this. A lot of people just see the BLACK part of black lives matter and judge it as so
 

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About your last sentence, yes Whites make up 70% of the country.
Blacks make up 13% but still commit 50% of homicides.
They're disproportionately large represented on every crime statistic while they only make 13%.
But statistics are racist, right?

OT: Really funny that you mention the little girl story, while I agree with you there, if a thug gets killed the media report it non-stop.
Every time a Black person got shot the media tells you "racist cop" or something like that.

They almost never report Black on White crime.
Not even the real issue, Black on Black crime. You guys kill each other, but that's ok because it's not a race crime, right?

And most of you fall for this, you don't even notice in what position you put yourself with every other **impout.
 

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It doesn't. I don't see how it would even, one is specific and other is general. Although I don't agree with violence to be heard...
 

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It doesn't. I don't see how it would even, one is specific and other is general. Although I don't agree with violence to be heard...

It does counter it and this analogy demonstrates why:


"My personal interpretation of Black Lives Matter vs. All Lives Matter. Bob is sitting at the dinner table. Everyone else gets a plate of food except Bob. Bob says 'Bob Deserves Food.' Everyone at the table responds with 'Everyone Deserves Food' and continues eating. All though Everyone Deserves Food is a true statement, it does nothing to actually rectify the fact that BOB HAS NO FOOD!!"

About your last sentence, yes Whites make up 70% of the country.
Blacks make up 13% but still commit 50% of homicides.
They're disproportionately large represented on every crime statistic while they only make 13%.
But statistics are racist, right?

OT: Really funny that you mention the little girl story, while I agree with you there, if a thug gets killed the media report it non-stop.
Every time a Black person got shot the media tells you "racist cop" or something like that.

They almost never report Black on White crime.
Not even the real issue, Black on Black crime. You guys kill each other, but that's ok because it's not a race crime, right?

And most of you fall for this, you don't even notice in what position you put yourself with every other **impout.

Black on black crime isn't brought up in this context because those black people usually end up in jail as a result, not with paid leave or with millions of dollars in donations and offers for book deals.
 
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It does counter it and this analogy demonstrates why:


"My personal interpretation of Black Lives Matter vs. All Lives Matter. Bob is sitting at the dinner table. Everyone else gets a plate of food except Bob. Bob says 'Bob Deserves Food.' Everyone at the table responds with 'Everyone Deserves Food' and continues eating. All though Everyone Deserves Food is a true statement, it does nothing to actually rectify the fact that BOB HAS NO FOOD!!"



Black on black crime isn't brought up in this context because those black people usually end up in jail as a result, not with paid leave or with millions of dollars in donations and offers for book deals.
The analogy is kind of odd, if anyone sitting with bob where truly for everyone, they would of just given him some food or ordered some for him, correct me if I'm wrong here
 

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About your last sentence, yes Whites make up 70% of the country.
Blacks make up 13% but still commit 50% of homicides.
They're disproportionately large represented on every crime statistic while they only make 13%.
But statistics are racist, right?

OT: Really funny that you mention the little girl story, while I agree with you there, if a thug gets killed the media report it non-stop.
Every time a Black person got shot the media tells you "racist cop" or something like that.

They almost never report Black on White crime.
Not even the real issue, Black on Black crime. You guys kill each other, but that's ok because it's not a race crime, right?

And most of you fall for this, you don't even notice in what position you put yourself with every other **impout.

So because black on black crime happens that means its ok to kill black people? Cuz thats false Americans kill americans all day but guess what ? You dont see our government support isis and giving them paid vacations now do you
 

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It does counter it and this analogy demonstrates why:


"My personal interpretation of Black Lives Matter vs. All Lives Matter. Bob is sitting at the dinner table. Everyone else gets a plate of food except Bob. Bob says 'Bob Deserves Food.' Everyone at the table responds with 'Everyone Deserves Food' and continues eating. All though Everyone Deserves Food is a true statement, it does nothing to actually rectify the fact that BOB HAS NO FOOD!!"



Black on black crime isn't brought up in this context because those black people usually end up in jail as a result, not with paid leave or with millions of dollars in donations and offers for book deals.

Don't get analogy on how it counters. They are simply ignoring the issue, and doing nothing. So how can it be considered ALM when they ignore said lives? In reality things get ignored as well, but thats just corruption and a flawed system. A more specific/individualistic approach would probably get faster results for said individual (in this case BLM) than a more general approach (ALM), so I can see why BLM is more preferred.
 

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Don't get analogy on how it counters. They are simply ignoring the issue, and doing nothing. So how can it be considered ALM when they ignore said lives? In reality things get ignored as well, but thats just corruption and a flawed system. A more specific/individualistic approach would probably get faster results for said individual (in this case BLM) than a more general approach (ALM), so I can see why BLM is more preferred.

That is precisely what happens when a person says "Black Lives Matter" and a person says "All Lives Matter" as a response. Yes, the statement "All Lives Matter" is accurate, but it does nothing to progress the conversation, which is about the fact that the handling of officers unjustly killing black people have gone unpunished way too many times.

Is the concept of police brutality in general, not just to a specific race, worth being a conversation? Yes, absolutely, but not when it's meant to distract or detract from the conversation that is black specific.

The same way that saying "Everyone deserves food" does nothing to rectify the fact that Bob is lacking food, saying "All lives matter" does nothing to rectify the fact that so many black lives have unjustly been lost and no punishment was given.
 

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About your last sentence, yes Whites make up 70% of the country.
Blacks make up 13% but still commit 50% of homicides.
They're disproportionately large represented on every crime statistic while they only make 13%.
But statistics are racist, right?

OT: Really funny that you mention the little girl story, while I agree with you there, if a thug gets killed the media report it non-stop.
Every time a Black person got shot the media tells you "racist cop" or something like that.

They almost never report Black on White crime.
Not even the real issue, Black on Black crime. You guys kill each other, but that's ok because it's not a race crime, right?

And most of you fall for this, you don't even notice in what position you put yourself with every other **impout.

And this is the kind of statement that gets black people heated. We say BLM then you throw up these statistics and this is what? Supposed to justify the fact that cops are still killing black folks at an alarming rate innocent or no?

These statistics don't make it okay. It doesn't put cops in the right or somehow make it understandable that black men and women are being mistreated (i.e. Shot dead) buy authorities. Due process is the law not a liscense to kill indecriminently because the statistics say blacks commit more crimes.

It's exactly the same as condemning all Muslims for what the Muslim terrorists do....the EXACT same thing!
 

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The analogy is kind of odd, if anyone sitting with bob where truly for everyone, they would of just given him some food or ordered some for him, correct me if I'm wrong here

Here is another analogy. If you are at a cancer rally (for donations) and someone stands up and says all diseases deserve donations. It is not wrong , but we are currently focusing on cancer.

Another analogy. You are at a relative's funeral. A person from a different funeral comes and asks you, why are you not mourning for his relative's death. Both deaths are equally sad but you are already dealing with one.
 

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That is precisely what happens when a person says "Black Lives Matter" and a person says "All Lives Matter" as a response. Yes, the statement "All Lives Matter" is accurate, but it does nothing to progress the conversation, which is about the fact that the handling of officers unjustly killing black people have gone unpunished way too many times.

Is the concept of police brutality in general, not just to a specific race, worth being a conversation? Yes, absolutely, but not when it's meant to distract or detract from the conversation that is black specific.

The same way that saying "Everyone deserves food" does nothing to rectify the fact that Bob is lacking food, saying "All lives matter" does nothing to rectify the fact that so many black lives have unjustly been lost and no punishment was given.

Umm I don't know if I'm restating myself but i don't see how it's a counter, that is how ALM is a counter to BLM. If anything it's shows how inactive ALM is if it can't help said life, so mentioning it is like a waste of time. I agree with it detracting and distracting the topic, but it doesn't seem like a counter to BLM.
 
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