How didn't I realize this before?

[Dribbles]

Well I just noticed this in a thread, someone pointed it out ( thank you whoever that was, don't come in here and be a crude moron. ) and I wanted to make an actual discussion on it.

It was stated Madara and Izuna both killed their closest friends to gain the Mangekyou Sharingan. Madara's best friend is Hashirama, so I'm really starting to believe Kishi has left quite the plot hole gaping there. Madara didn't kill Hashirama or didn't plan to until the rise of the villages or the incident that we are about to see. He also wouldn't have been able to, so this plot hole remains quite clear until an explanation.

TL;DR It was said they killed their best friends to gain MS, Madara didn't kill Hashirama.

 

[Ganta]

Obviously that whole story obito told sasuke about "his" past was a lie
Anythig that comes out of uchiha mouth is most likely a lie

 

[Stacks]

Do fathers count as best friends? What if he killed his own dad? There are many possiblities, it's just hard to come up with one to be honest. Characters are introduced left and right currently.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Scan or Hoax.

I don't recall it being revealed how Izuna or Madara obtained the MS.

 

[Edo Valen]

You have to kill your closest friend to gain MS, that doesn't necessarily have to be true. In Naruto manga, it's all about people's perspectives. Just because someone says you have to kill your closest friend to gain MS doesn't instantly mean it's factual.

 

[Yatori]

Thats why izuna gave madara his eyes.. cos madara wont be able to kill hashi that time.. or maybe not hahahaha

so we need to figure out who izuna best friend now? oh c'mon..

 

[God Madara]

Well I just noticed this in a thread, someone pointed it out ( thank you whoever that was, don't come in here and be a crude moron. ) and I wanted to make an actual discussion on it.

It was stated Madara and Izuna both killed their closest friends to gain the Mangekyou Sharingan. Madara's best friend is Hashirama, so I'm really starting to believe Kishi has left quite the plot hole gaping there. Madara didn't kill Hashirama or didn't plan to until the rise of the villages or the incident that we are about to see. He also wouldn't have been able to, so this plot hole remains quite clear until an explanation.

TL;DR It was said they killed their best friends to gain MS, Madara didn't kill Hashirama.

Izuna didn't kill Tobirama either

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

Well, I think after this fight that they will no longer be friends. . . . . . . . . which means that Madara would have another friend, from the Uchiha Clan.

Izuna didn't kill Tobirama either

And how do you know that they were friends in the first place?

 

[S A G E]

You don't need to kill your best friend to gain MS, Kakashi said it himself. I think you just need to experience a major loss and be very sad to unlock the MS.

 

[GenKiDama]

That is not necessarily true, the fact that u kill ur best friend is irrelevant, it's the emotional upheaval that wakens MS, which can be felt with anyone important to you dying. It's much like becoming a super saiyan. Proof is how Sasuke got MS but didn't kill his best friend.

 

[julio10ification]

well its not like hashirama could have been his only friend

 

[Dribbles]

Alright, did NO ONE. Read the post properly.

It was STATED Madara and Izuna killed their best friends to gain MS. At NO point did I say you HAD to kill your best friend to gain MS. It was clearly stated on a page that this is how they gained MS, now someone provide me with a proper explanation please?

 

[PaperHERO]

You don't need to kill your closest friend to gain MS. It's the emotional trauma that unlocks it. Obito didn't kill either of his closest friend and he still got it...after Kakashi killed Rin.

 

[PaperHERO]

Alright, did NO ONE. Read the post properly.

It was STATED Madara and Izuna killed their best friends to gain MS. At NO point did I say you HAD to kill your best friend to gain MS. It was clearly stated on a page that this is how they gained MS, now someone provide me with a proper explanation please?

They made new best friends?

 

[Cypher]

ms is not awakened by killing best friend alone - pay attentiont ot he manga it is awakened by severe emotional trama meaning madara may not have awakened it by killing hashi but maybe he will be force to do something that will make him question who he is and what eh is fighting for forcing the ms out of him

sasuke didnt get it by killing itachi he got it when he figured out itachi wasnt the enemy so again its not the death it the emotional trauma that awakes the ms

 

[Nakamazi Itchigo]

Probably some other close childhood friends form the Uchiha clan..

 

[ekichi onizuka]

how is dat a plote hole you have to lose someone close too you and the pain you will bare will give you the srenght to awaken MS

 

[TheWillofFire]

Whoa don't dub this a plot hole just because you are impatient on seeing it unfold.

You dont know, maybe Izuna and Madara got closer to other people
Maybe Hashi did die and was brought back

Sasuke got MS without killing Naruto
So that doesnt mean Madara has to kill Hashi for MS

 

[Yellow Spark]

Luffy Madara killed roronoa hashirama.

 

[Khallil]

we'll see, and the thing about killing your closest friend was a lie, that was confirmed, it was experiencing a traume,, e.i. best friend gets killed